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Conversations on Spirit Divine

Preface

This is the third book in the series of the publications made by the author revealing spiritual knowledge harmonizing between science and religion. This book is written in continuation of the book on “The Evolution of the Human Soul” and this is an explanatory discussion between the author and the divine being who declares that he is Swami Vivekananda on some of the topics dealt with in the first volume published under the name “Spiritual Science”. It is indeed very difficult to establish harmony between material science and spiritual science as the material science is dealing with secrets about the external universe while spiritual science is dealing with the knowledge about Spirit Divine. It was desired by the great Swami Vivekananda to bring out such a publication to establish harmony between science and religion as he found that such an adjustment is necessary at this stage. His desire is being

fulfilled by this publication as he is dictating these books as revealed by Divinities as ordained by the Cosmic Being.

 

The advent of Sri Ramakrishna signifies various adjustments and evolutions suited to the need of this age of material science. It is declared in Gita that the Lord of the universe will appear for making such adjustments in this world and Sri Ramakrishna’s advent fulfils such a need. It was Swami Vivekananda who appeared from the state of Cosmic Being to introduce spiritual renaissance needed at this age that brought out ideas for a new adjustment. It was again destined by the Lord that the Swamiji ought to be the instrument in establishing a movement to introduce new ideals upholding the ancient spiritual heritage of India. He introduced a new evolution in the conception of Godhood both in the West and East so that human society can accept a God n who is a

Cosmic Being beyond all differentiations of caste creed and colour. These publications reveal divine knowledge for such an adjustment since the Swamiji is the person destined to be the author for such adjustments and evolutions in this plane of earth and in the higher regions of spirit as well. It is ordained by the Lord that these publications may be made by him in a wonderful manner after his life time. We place this book also as an offering at the feet of the Lord who is described in this book as Cosmic Being. It is known that there will be two or three parts more to be published on “Conversations on Spirit Divine” as and when revealed.

 

Swami Vishadananda

1st March 1964

Sri Ramakrishna Ashrama

Sri Ramakrishna Nagar P.O

Ottapalam

Kerala State

India

 

 

Disciple: - Swamiji, Sri Ramakrishna is said to be an incarnation of Mother Divine. Again He is treated as an incarnation of the great soul who was born as Sri Rama and subsequently as Sri Krishna. You have described Him as the embodiment of all aspects of Gods and Goddesses while you were living in this world. How is it that He is being described in ever so many ways?

 

Swamiji:- Yes, He is all these and yet beyond all these. You have heard that He himself declared that He was born from the highest plane of sublime knowledge and bliss. In a vision He saw that He reached that glorious height and that from that wonderful plane of divine light a child was manifested as embodiment of same divinity. He meant by that statement that this child was really from the plane of Mother Divine who is glorious divine light of knowledge and bliss. He also hinted that He Himself was the child. This state of light of knowledge is called Saguna Brahman in Vedantic literature. Those who consider the highest manifestation of Brahman as Mother divine, treat this state of Saguna Brahman as Para Sakthi or Chit Sakthi or Mother Divine. Being born from this state of divine light He can be considered as an embodiment of Divine mother or conceived as a manifestation of Saguna Brahman. He was

declared during the last days of His life that the same principle that was born as Rama and later o as Krishna is this Ramakrishna and that declaration was made by Him as He knew that, that divinity also was manifested in Him. During his period of Spiritual practices He had wonderful experiences of different Gods and Goddesses of different faiths and religions. He had visions of these Gods and Goddesses as entering and disappearing into Him. Thus you will see that Sri Ramakrishna was the embodiment of all these God hoods of different faiths and religions. Further, He became a knower of Brahman by having the experience of Nirvikalpa Samadhi which is the highest state in super conscious experiences. This attainment makes one identified with the highest principle beyond all differentiations of relative planes. You may conceive Him in any way you like.

 

Disciple: - What was the real purpose served by the advent of Sri Ramkrishna in this world where there are ever so many religions and faiths to show the path to the kingdom of God? Was it not enough to follow the path shown by the Sages and prophet of the past? Did He show any new light after getting new dispensation from Mother Divine whom He worshipped throughout His life?

 

Swamiji: - No, He did not show any new path in addition to the already existing religions. His Mother Divine showed Him different methods of spiritual practices of Hinduism and then He was directed to practice other religions as well. He practiced them and attained their goals and then showed practical methods leading to God realization to His followers. He declared that God exists in most tangible and perceptible manner and He was capable of proving the existence of God to others also. In fact He showed and gave experiences to many during His lifetime. The purpose of the advent of Sri Ramakrishna was to prove the existence of God and the path suited to this age for attaining God or the goal of human life. He has declared that the goal of human life in this plane of earth is to attain God realization. He did not want to have a religion of His own. He was born to vitalize all religions and to show light

towards the attainment of a renaissance resulting in harmony between different faiths. Really He laid foundation for a universal religious brother hood. He had dispensations from Divine Mother to do this kind of services in this world. It was of course enough if people were following paths or religions as taught by ancient sages or prophets, but due to the change of time, mentality of people also changed. Therefore there arose the need for a new divine manifestation to make adjustments according to the needs of the time.

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