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Dear Vinay (copied to Hindu Council UK....pls feel free to distribute).

 

Let me attempt a response to the question sent by Vinay (Copied at the end of this email) on how do we justify God when such things happen? Please note the language, it is a 'mere attempt to respond'.

 

What Dr Rowan Williams is commenting on is the serious philosophic challenge faced by all world religions that arises from common sense.

 

If God is all-powerful and all-compassionate and all-knowing......why should a single living thing suffer for a single instance ( let alone thousands of human beings including innocent children be killed in such a violent manner )?

When we teach Advanced Hinduism we go to great lengths to compare the responses from the Abrahamic faiths and the Indian religions (including Hinduism).....but...

 

Dear friend do you know what is my response today?

Who cares what justification we offer to such tragedy or what mental gymnastics we carry out when we are faced with such questions?.... The important thing is that we do not sit back and look for justifications........What we have to do is to 'act' and do something to help those in distress.

 

Religion is not "that which gives answers to why such things happen" but tells us, "how to respond when such things happen".

 

Do you see where I am leading to? Buddha used a very good example to press this point home. He said, "Suppose you find someone who has been shot with an arrow, do you sit back and speculate where the arrow came, why it came, who shot it?.....Your duty (or religion) is to remove that arrow and help that person in distress......that is what religions are all about.

 

Hope this helped.

 

regards

dilip lakhani

Vivekananda Centre London

 

This Question came from Hindu Council UK office.

Fw: God's Existence

 

 

Question from @ Vinay Sharma

 

You have certainly read the remarks of Dr. Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, as head

of the Church Of England, and representative of 70 million Anglicans around the World that the existence

of God is under question following the Tsunami Disaster.

 

Hindu religion is perhaps the only religion which has an in-built solution to all situations beyond logical

explannation which cannot be explained by commonsense. Even the act of God permitting suffering and

devastation of poor innocent people and children is explained by deeds of earlier births.

 

In such a situation the Hindu Community is very keen to hear your views in relation to Hindu Religion. You

and all learned custodians of our religion should express their views on the situation arising out of such

drastic comments from a religious head of one of the largest religion. Is it time we debate on "DOES THE GOD

EXISTS"?

 

Vinay Sharma

Edgware

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Today I had a dream. My niece was seriusly injured on a chain of actions

with my participation. In the dream, I cried. A moment later, I woke up and

she was next to me with a smile.

 

When someone finally realizes god he becomes aware of the ilussion of the

world. Life, death, pleasure, pain... it's the very nature of Maya. Here,

karma is generated and burned. It will not change. Paraphrasing Vivekananda

I can say that " You can't add a single pound of pleasure nor remove a single

pound of pain in the universe. " .

 

But we are in Kali Yuga... Vedanta is far from being accepted universally.

Our mission has to be realize god alone... no matter what path you choose.

Helping who we find on our was it's only part of our path. It's not the end,

but the way.

 

I can't think of a better service for humanity than passing on the light of

god. Removing the veil of ignorance is the best service the is. BuT! For

that... you must be a realized, a Buddha, a Jesus, a Ramakrishna, a

Vivekananda and so on. To rescue someone from the waves of the ocean of

karma, you must know how to swim! In that spirit, I invite you all to stick

with ferocity to your Sadhanas. Karma, Bhakti, Raja Yoga, Jñana, Kriya Yoga,

Tantra, Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, Christ... all the rivers flow to the ocean

of Ananda.

 

Let us all be brave and make the veil fall. Let us all become jivamuktas.

 

Namaskars,

 

Mahadev

 

" Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda

Ramakrishna

" vivlist " <vivekananda >, " self-knowledge-list "

<Self-knowledge >, " ramlist " <ramakrishna >

[sri Ramakrishna] How can God allow such tragedies?

Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:25:01 -0000

 

Dear Vinay (copied to Hindu Council UK....pls feel free to distribute).

 

Let me attempt a response to the question sent by Vinay (Copied at the end

of this email) on how do we justify God when such things happen? Please note

the language, it is a 'mere attempt to respond'.

 

What Dr Rowan Williams is commenting on is the serious philosophic challenge

faced by all world religions that arises from common sense.

 

If God is all-powerful and all-compassionate and all-knowing......why should

a single living thing suffer for a single instance ( let alone thousands of

human beings including innocent children be killed in such a violent manner

)?

When we teach Advanced Hinduism we go to great lengths to compare the

responses from the Abrahamic faiths and the Indian religions (including

Hinduism).....but...

 

Dear friend do you know what is my response today?

Who cares what justification we offer to such tragedy or what mental

gymnastics we carry out when we are faced with such questions?.... The

important thing is that we do not sit back and look for

justifications........What we have to do is to 'act' and do something to

help those in distress.

 

Religion is not " that which gives answers to why such things happen " but

tells us, " how to respond when such things happen " .

 

Do you see where I am leading to? Buddha used a very good example to press

this point home. He said, " Suppose you find someone who has been shot with

an arrow, do you sit back and speculate where the arrow came, why it came,

who shot it?.....Your duty (or religion) is to remove that arrow and help

that person in distress......that is what religions are all about.

 

Hope this helped.

 

regards

dilip lakhani

Vivekananda Centre London

 

This Question came from Hindu Council UK office.

Fw: God's Existence

 

Question from @ Vinay Sharma

 

You have certainly read the remarks of Dr. Rowan Williams, the Archbishop

of Canterbury, as head

of the Church Of England, and representative of 70 million Anglicans

around the World that the existence

of God is under question following the Tsunami Disaster.

 

Hindu religion is perhaps the only religion which has an in-built

solution to all situations beyond logical

explannation which cannot be explained by commonsense. Even the act of

God permitting suffering and

devastation of poor innocent people and children is explained by deeds of

earlier births.

 

In such a situation the Hindu Community is very keen to hear your views

in relation to Hindu Religion. You

and all learned custodians of our religion should express their views on

the situation arising out of such

drastic comments from a religious head of one of the largest religion. Is

it time we debate on " DOES THE GOD

EXISTS " ?

 

Vinay Sharma

Edgware

 

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Buddha also taught that all life in this cyclic world

is suffering, is dukha. This is the first noble truth!

Why are religious people surprised by suffering? Is

life suppossed to be fun? Easy? Free of care and

worry? Wake up! YOU WERE BORN TO SUFFER HERE. Until

you attain liberation, you will keep coming back here

again and again to suffer more. This is the lesson of

the world. LIFE IS SUFFERING. ACCEPT THIS NOBLE TRUTH.

And it should be this way. It is suffering that brings

us closer to God, that makes us aspire for liberation.

If everyone was happy, who would seek God? God made it

this way. Thank God for adversity. It is your best

teacher! Look at this oportunity to practice love and

compassion. Look at the outpouring of good will all

over the world.

 

RD

 

 

 

--- Vivekananda Centre <vivekananda

wrote:

 

> If God is all-powerful and all-compassionate and

> all-knowing......why should a single living thing

> suffer for a single instance ( let alone thousands

> of human beings including innocent children be

> killed in such a violent manner )?

 

> Buddha used a very good example to press this point

home. He said, " Suppose you find someone who has been

shot with an arrow, do you sit back and speculate

where the arrow came, why it came, who shot it?.....

Your duty (or religion) is to remove that arrow and

help that person in distress......that is what

religions are all about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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