Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I've read with interest the many postings about why God permits his creations to suffer so. For me personally, the doctrine of karma is insufficient to explain suffering because it is part of the phenomenal world, a manifestation of Maya and therefore not of much use to us now. What DOES bring me comfort and an answer for that eternal question is the statement (source unknown) that " we are only windows through which the Universe can observe itself " . For me, that is our only purpose. The creation of Maya or multiplicity requires the creation of opposites and (maybe) cause and effect. To regard the spectacular beauty of this world, we must regard its terrifying ugliness also. Life is full of paradox: we have to give away in order to receive, surrender in order to win and die in order to awaken. In 6th Century Japan, the abbot of a Zen monastery received a novice monk who complained of excruciating emotional and mental pain, accompanied by rage, fear and despair. The abbot explained that life is like being in a burning house. " How so? " , inquired the monk. " You'd be crazy not to want out, " replied the abbot. Jai Ramakrishna! Barry Bates West Palm Beach, FL, USA PS: See also burninghousezendo.org and http://www.buddhistdoor.com/bdoor/0112/sources/lotus7_p1.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Ramakrishna , " jairamakrishna " <bates7106@b...> wrote: > > > I've read with interest the many postings about why God permits his > creations to suffer so. > > For me personally, the doctrine of karma is insufficient to explain > suffering because it is part of the phenomenal world, a manifestation > of Maya and therefore not of much use to us now. > > What DOES bring me comfort and an answer for that eternal question is > the statement (source unknown) that " we are only windows through which > the Universe can observe itself " . Namaste, A similar quotation is from Thomas Carlyle:(1795-1881) " Rightly viewed, no meanest object is insignificant; all objects are as windows, through which the philosophic eye looks into infinitude itself. " Our view is indeed limited, distorted, and self-defeating. Why can we not consider that the 'tragedy' from our viewpoint was in fact a 'liberation' granted by the Supreme Spirit - the last thought before death is what takes you to That, and almost everyone must have thought of That alone? Let us not assume that children do not think of God. Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Dear Sunder, I agree with you wholeheartedly and that is what I tried to put across in my last mail. I read a book recently where a Sage consoles a grieving mother with the words, " Why do you grieve so much for your son? Do you think he is in a worse state than what he was here? Definitely not ! He is now basking in the glory of God, celebrating his release from the sorrow of being encased in the human body. " We all know that we come from a REALITY that we call God and that we merge back into that same reality. So what follows is that suffering is only here on earth. It is like two people about to enter a room. One knows that the room is lighted and very comfortable, whereas the other fears that the room is dark. In reality the room is indeed well lighted. So now when both step in, they both will enter a lighted room. It is not that the ignorant person who feared that the room was dark will enter a dark room. That is not possible even though it has been imagined. The rope continues to remain a rope despite the observer thinking it to be a snake. This is the reason why while we celebrate the departure of Monks, the householder continues to mourn for the dead relatives. Only the perception is different. One knows and the other does not know. That's all. And this also justifies the sloka in the Gita which says in effect, " Even a little knowledge of spirituality rids one of great fear and sorrow. " Regards, Jagannath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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