Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: the question of whether Western Vedantists are Hindus: Historically, of course, Vedantist philosophy as practiced in the West comes from Hinduism. The term Hinduism cannot really be used to define a specific religious persuasion—the umbrella of Hinduism is so vast. Indeed the world could benefit from the teachings of tolerance and inclusion that are Hindu ideals. I would like to point out this observation of Sri Ramakrishna in the Gospel. Tolerance and the notion of the equality and unity of religion as taught by Ramakrishna seem not to be based on concepts of kindness and goodwill alone. Tolerance and goodwill are side effects of what Sri Ramakrishna taught. He didn’t teach tolerance just to promote peace as some may think. Sri Ramakrishna, unlike a mere social thinker, idealist, or philosopher, taught the truth as he himself had realized it. Ramakrishna Vedanta is to be a practical, experiential path to realization. He demonstrated for himself, and as an example for us, that he could attain union with the Divine by the major religious paths. He attained realization as a Christian, Muslim, Jew and a variety of divergent Hindu traditions. He proved for himself—remember he was a great experimenter—the truth that all religions COULD lead to God-realization. We have no greater teacher of this truth. But notice I capitalize the word COULD. By no means is it true that every practice and every religious idea is harmless. That is simply not so and is so self-evident that one need only mention a few terms found in historical commentary in regards to religion: promotion of misogyny; condoning of slavery; practices of incest; racial and ethnic discrimination and genocide; human and animal sacrifice; child marriages without consent; circumcision and mutilation of girls to prevent sexual satisfaction; socially encouraged suicide of widows on their husband’s funeral pyre; persecution and execution of sinners or religious and/or sexual minorities; in Judaism, sexual relations with a brother’s widow by all his brothers until a male heir is produced; polygamy, exclusive marriage only to fellow Jews or members of the same religion, race or caste; the horrific concept of the murder of infidels as pleasing to God. This subject is a bombshell to even acknowledge. Tom Rea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Hi all, I am not much into the subject of religions, however I would like to make a few comments on a few points that caught my attention. First and foremost, Hindu ideal is not tolerance, it is ACCEPTANCE. Vedanta is universal, i think there is no such thing as Ramakrishna Vedanta or Western Vedanta as seen from the point of view of vedanta , there is only Advaita Vedanta (we have our perceptions and our perceptions are different from the Truth). River flows, we drink from it, we swim in it, we wash clothes , the farmer diverts it towards his fields, how does it matter to the river, it flows and joins the ocean. I also believe, Ramakrishna could not have taught vedanta as he perceived or realised, because such people as Ramakrishna are born to teach Truth as it is, that is the reason that centuries pass by and the TRUTH and its teachings remain as it is. All the effects merge into the Truth of Vedanta. Best Wishes Sunil NimmalaThomas Rea <tomikin wrote: Re: the question of whether Western Vedantists are Hindus: Historically, of course, Vedantist philosophy as practiced in the West comes from Hinduism. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: the question of whether Western Vedantists are Hindus: Actually, the term 'Hindu' has really nothing to do with religion, per se. It describes the people of Hindustan. There are many religions in Hindustan...Vaishnavism, Islam, Sikhism, Jainism, Shivaism, Shaktism, Christianity, Arya Samaj, Vedantists, etc etc etc. They are all Hindus, by virtue of their sub-continemt origins. We 'western vedantists' are not Hindus, per se. I think the term, 'Ramakrishna Vedantist'; being international in scope, is able to stand alone; without any other affiliation. I should say that we are Shaktas...worshippers of the Divine Female Principle. We recognixe Sri Ramakrishna as the Vehicle of the Divine Mother. Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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