HOW TO FIGHT LUST???

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HOW TO FIGHT LUST???

 

 

 

 

 

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How can feelings of lust be controlled?

 

A - Keep your mind engaged in chanting the name of the Lord. If lust

persists, go into your room and clap your hands and chant the name of

the Lord loudly. This will free you from lust. Of course you have to

have the desire to be free. Prayer is answered, but you must be

sincere.

Swami Prabhavananda

http://www.vedanta.com/vital.html

 

" Then there is another characteristic of tamoguna, i.e. lust. Girendra

Ghosh of Pathuraghat said, 'One cannot get rid of enemies like lust,

anger etc. So turn their direction.' Desire for God. Have intercourse

with Sachchidananda. And if you cannot get over anger, bring the tamas

of bhakti. What! I have repeated the name of Durga, shall I not to be

liberated? There is no sin for me, no bondage. Thereafter, have greed

for God realization. Fall in love with God's form and say, 'I am the

servant of God. I am His son. If you have to be proud, be proud of

this. In this way you can turn the direction of all the six enemies. "

- Sri Ramakrishna

http://www.kathamrita.org/kathamrita/k1sec15.htm

 

Just as the tiger devours other animals, similarly, the 'tiger of

love' swallows lust, anger and such other enemies. Once you develop

love of the Lord, lust, anger and the rest disappear. The gopis

(milkmaids) had developed such love for Krishna.

 

" Moreover, there is the 'collyrium of love'. Radha says, 'Friend, I

see Krishna filling all the four directions.' Her friend says, 'Dear

one, you have applied the 'collyrium of love' to your eyes. That is

why you see it so.' It is said that if you use a collyrium made with

the burnt head of a frog, you see snakes everywhere.

 

" They who live only with 'lust and greed' – who don't think of God

even once – are bound souls. What great work can they perform? They

are like mangoes pecked by crows. Such mangoes cannot be offered to

the gods. Eating them yourself is also risky.

 

" Bound souls, worldly people, are like silkworms. They could come out

of their cocoons if they wished, but they have built their own homes

and maya does not allow them to escape. And it all ends with death.

 

" Liberated souls are not under the control of 'lust and greed'. Some

clever silkworms cut their cocoons and come out. But they are very

few.

 

" Because of maya (attachment), one remains forgetful. Few attain

spiritual awakening, few are not deluded by the magic of maya, are not

subject to the control of 'lust and greed.' When the pot containing

ashes from the maternity room falls on one's feet, the 'damn, damn'

word of the magician can do no harm. One can see exactly what the

magician is doing.

http://www.kathamrita.org/kathamrita2/k2sec03.htm

On 5/18/05, kaushik <kaushik_y2k wrote:

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RE: " HOW TO FIGHT LUST??? "

 

 

Namaste,

 

Here are some quotes from the Sri Sri Ramakrishna Kathamrita:

 

 

" Anger and lust cannot be destroyed. Turn them toward God.

If you must feel desire and temptation,

then desire to realze God, feel tempted by Him.

Discriminate and turn the passions away

from worldly objects.

When the elephant is about to devour a plaintain-tree

in someone's garden, the mAhut strikes

it with his iron-tipped goad. "

 

" Once a man realizes God through intense dispassion,

he is no longer attached to woman.

Even if he must lead the life of a householder,

he is free from fear of and attachment to woman.

Suppose there are two magnets, one big

and the other small.

Which one will attract the iron?

The big one,of course.

God is the big magnet. Compared to Him,

woman is a small one.

He who has realized God does not look upon

a woman with the eye of lust;

so he is not afraid of her.

He perceives clearly that women are but so many aspects

of the Divine Mother.

He worships them all as the Mother Herself. "

 

Sri Ramakrishna (to the devotees) — " Just as the tiger devours other

animals, similarly, the `tiger of love' swallows lust, anger and such

other enemies. Once you develop love of the Lord, lust, anger and the

rest disappear. The gopis (milkmaids) had developed such love for

Krishna. "

 

Rakhal — " Many people think it's enough not to look at a woman. What

is the use of lowering your eyes when you see a woman? Last evening

Narendra said beautifully, `As long as I have the feeling of lust,

there is a woman there. When one is rid of lust, one sees no

difference between a man and a woman.' "

 

Om Tat Sat

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HOW TO FIGHT LUST???

 

Namaste,

 

You mean the object of lust as sex. You cannot fight it in the

sense to crush it out. You must

change it’s object if you want a different effect.

 

Lust is the nature of mind that it clings to it’s object. If you make the object something else,

it will cling to that, as long as it becomes pleasurable. If you simply repress

it, it will lurk in the recesses of the mind and come back and out in other

ways. If you make the object the

formless, then eventually you will be free, the mind clear.

 

The first step is to concentrate on/love some ideal form as

absolute, some single thing, the process of discrimination of thought,

etc. The Spiritual Teacher can be

of inestimable help in this process, seek one out, and Holy Company, this is a

very long and difficult process, take help.

 

Love,

Bob Rose

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Namaste,

 

To further explore this subject:

 

RE: " If you make the object something else, it will cling to that, as

long as it becomes pleasurable " .

 

-also-

 

RE: " Lust is the nature of mind that it clings to it's object. "

 

Comment: When Sri Ramakrishna said that we should 'lust for God';

I believe that He was speaking in the following sense:

" If nothing else works...if you simply cannot 'rise above' the animal

impulses....then, as a 'last resort', turn these passions towards God. "

 

In other words, He was not 'recommending' it, as a spiritual practice or

discipline.

 

RE: " If you simply repress it, it will lurk in the recesses of the

mind and come back and out in other ways. "

 

Comment: Here we come back to the old Truth; namely, the 'mind' is

'of' the body.... 'lust' is of the mind, which is like a wild tiger.

It must be confronted, grappled with....and wrestled to the ground.

That is the essence of Yoga......discipline of the mind!

 

We are not 'supressing' these lustful desires, per se; we are

ultimately leaving them behind; since, we are no longer 'of' the body,

although still residing therein.

 

RE: " The Spiritual Teacher can be of inestimable help in this process,

seek one out, and Holy Company "

 

Comment: Seeking out Holy Company, when one is absorbed in a life and

death struggle with the demons of lust, is perhaps not always the best

solution.

Pray to God, with a yearning heart. Be not afraid to shed tears. He

will give us strength to discover our true nature....and peace shall

follow.

 

Basically, it is all a part of the eternal 'woman and gold' package,

spoken so often about, by Sri Thakurji. 'Greed for gold' is also 'of'

the body....and has its origins in Maya.

 

Quote:

" Whenever a thought or feeling which is not the goal of the meditation

— that is, which is not the soul, the inner self — occurs to the mind,

the meditator simply says, " Not this, not this, " and dismisses the

thought, image, concept, sound, or sense distraction.

 

Any thought, any feeling, is discarded — patiently discarded —

again and again if necessary, until the mind is clear and the soul is

revealed. "

 

FROM: http://www.yogaworld.org/jnana2.htm

 

Om Shanthi Om

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Namaskar Kaushik

 

Hari OM

 

 

pl. visit link : http://swami-krishnananda.org and http://www.dlshq.org/ for books on topic

 

pl read boom named "brahmacharya" by Swami Shivanda and enjoy brahmacharya

 

Om tat sat

 

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Namaste,

 

To further

explore this subject:

 

Namaste,

 

If you lust for God then God is what you’ll have regardless of what

you now think.

 

Love, Bob Rose

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Lust n Greed are almost same as it is longing for some

thing. But as lust is associated with sex n body, it

is associated with animal instinct. This may drive

one's mind to anywhere if he cannot control. Fear of

the society n relatives are also diterrant. For self

regulation one has to meditate and think about the

demerits thru'self criticism. There is an example of

Ramakrishna about Jalebi - though that is appropriate

for greed. You may read His thinking abt Sarada Maa.

Good readings and thinking n good friends may help

regards

panda

 

 

 

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To further explore: If you lust for God then God is what you'll have

regardless of what you now think.

 

RE: " regardless of what you now think "

 

Namaste,

 

Actually, what " I " think is of little or

no consequence.

 

My 'all time' favorite quote from the

Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna:

 

" You know I am a fool. I know nothing.

Then who is it that says all these things?

I say to the Divine Mother:

'O Mother, I am the machine and Thou art the Operator.

I am the house and Thou art the indweller.

I am the chariot and Thou art the Charioteer.

I do as Thou makest me do. I speak as Thou makest me speak;

I move as Thou makest me move. It is not I !

It is all Thou ! It is all Thou !'

Hers is the glory; we are only Her instruments. "

 

Further comment:

 

Now, if Bhagavan Sri Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsadeva

Himself, admits that he is a fool; and, since I am not even worthy to

take the dust from His feet; then I must be a complete and utter imbecile.

 

Without the 'Great Presence within', we are as leaves in the wind,

tossed to and fro, at the whim of the natural forces.

 

Om Shanthi Om

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" Lust n Greed are almost same as it is longing for some

thing. But as lust is associated with sex n body, it

is associated with animal instinct. This may drive

one's mind to anywhere if he cannot control. Fear of

the society n relatives are also diterrant. For self

regulation one has to meditate and think about the

demerits thru'self criticism. There is an example of

Ramakrishna about Jalebi - though that is appropriate

for greed. You may read His thinking abt Sarada Maa.

Good readings and thinking n good friends may help " .

regards

panda

 

Comment:

 

'Self-criticism' is only the preliminary stage. One must cleanse

all feelings of guilt and remorse, before embarking

upon the spiritual journey of discovery.

 

The 'severing' of attachments to sense enjoyment is also a

prerequisite to yogic fulfillment.

 

Om Shanthi Om

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Kaam Purushartha is one of the four Purusharthas. It is your duty to

work to satisfy (and ultimately be free from ) the desires. Some

desires are to be fulfilled and some of them are to be dropped.

 

The Problem Lust is our intention is almost always to keep on

enjoying. This is the reason the lust keeps on increasing. If our

intention deep down the heart is to satisfy the desire and be free

from it and if the karma is performed with this intention our lust

will reduce and ultimately we will be free from that desire.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Saket

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Om Namah Sivaya,

 

A great saint Sri Manickavachagar (lived 1000 years

ago) stated in the highly inspiring devotional poem to

Siva considered to be equivalent to Gayatri Mantra:

 

& #8216;...... I have taken countless births and due

to my own karma I am in this a rotten fleshly bag made

of five elements, my body senses and mind are

deceiving me, they give out useless pleasure fleeting

like a dream and generate karma and drown me into

endless cycle of births and deaths, I am very tired

Lord, I am disgusted with the sensual pleasures, I beg

you to destroy Maya ( senses, mind, etc), Karma and

Anava (individuality), and grant me moksha so that I

can eternally immerse in Sivanandam (state of

inexpressible and illimitable joy ) & #8217; ..........

 

Lust is but a natural tendency of the mind, but can be

redeemed by prayer and intelligence. The best method

to check the impulse is the way of intense and deep

Vairagya by a study of religious books, by constant

association with noble souls, by close observance of

the ways of the world, and by an understanding of the

diseases and the spiritual degradation that result

from over-indulgence. Do intense Japa to the point of

self-forgetfulness. Treat womankind as the

manifestation of the adorable Mother Divine as Sri

Ramakrishna did. Take bath regularly and it would be a

tremendous help if you only eat pure vegetarian food,

as eating meat without doubt multiplies Lust. Always

engage yourself in pure and noble thoughts. Always

keep busy, do selfless service, meditation and listen

to devotional songs written by saints (especially when

you go to bed). Above all seek the Grace of God, do

daily worship at least twice a day with pure devotion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaste,

 

Thank you very much for your wonderful

words. The heart of the true

devotee lights the world.

 

Love, Bob Rose

 

 

Om Namah Sivaya,