Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Adarniya Jagannathji, What about Thakur's saying " Pure Mind, Pure Budhi and Pure Atman are one and the same thing. " Then 'Limitation of Mind' is as long as it is not pure. If mind dissolves after body dies, then what about subtle body which goes with the soul and contains all the samskars and effect of karmas in seed form! What about past memories which some reborn souls remember! How are all this made possible without mind being present probably in subtle form in Suksham sharir. I am confused. Please guide. Thanks and regards Chetan Merani > Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:15:35 -0700 (PDT) > Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01 > Re: Is the Mind Limited. > > Dear Sri Varun, > > Namaskar. Definitely the mind is limited. The mind, in essence is a > part of the body, only more subtle. After death the mind too > dissolves after existing for a brief period of time. > --cont--- Chetan Merani Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover./online.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I am confused. Please guide. > Thanks and regards > Chetan Merani Chetan Ji Namaste, Swami Vivekananda said: " ....The mind must be joined to the organ. The eye is the external instrument; we need also the brain centre and the agency of the mind. Carriages roll down a street, and you do not hear them. Why? Because your mind has not attached itself to the organ of hearing. First, there is the instrument, then there is the organ, and third, the mind attached to these two. The mind takes the impression farther in, and presents it to the determinative faculty — Buddhi — which reacts. Along with this reaction flashes the idea of egoism. Then this mixture of action and reaction is presented to the Purusha, the real Soul, who perceives an object in this mixture. The organs (Indriyas), together with the mind (Manas), the determinative faculty (Buddhi), and egoism (Ahamkâra), form the group called the Antahkarana (the internal instrument). They are but various processes in the mind-stuff, called Chitta. The waves of thought in the Chitta are called Vrittis (literally " whirlpool " ) " READ MORE: http://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_1/raja-yoga/concentrat\ ion_its_spiritual_uses.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 I am confused. Please guide. > Thanks and regards > Chetan Merani Chetan Ji Namaste, Namaste, Mind is what we call what exists between the self and the body. It has no separate existence as a something as such. It is a continuous dance of this and that, like the world, like the flow of colors in the spectrum, blending from one to another. We call it mind because it is less apparent to the senses and seems internalized to the body, but it is the collective experience of form since the Atman first thought of itself as separate, Jiva. It is time and matter and memory, the part of the body of the Jiva that is touched in thought and perception. By it’s very nature it is limitation because it is form itself as it may be remembered, as it is perceived. It seems very confusing because when it perceives itself it takes on the form of formlessness and cannot be held in thought and has no words and no memory. It is like when the wind blows the clouds, ice into water. It is really very simple. Fill the mind with the dense form of matter thru sense perception and it gets dark, place the attention on the formless, the space of love, and it clears, the lite of the Atman shines thru on the world unconditioned by matter and memory, and we perceive it as awareness. It feels very good. Love, Bob Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Ramakrishna , Chetan Merani <cvmerani@r...> wrote: > Adarniya Jagannathji, > What about Thakur's saying " Pure Mind, Pure Budhi and Pure Atman are > one and the same thing. " Then 'Limitation of Mind' is as long as it is > not pure. > If mind dissolves after body dies, then what about subtle body which > goes with the soul and contains all the samskars and effect of karmas > in seed form! What about past memories which some reborn souls > remember! How are all this made possible without mind being present > probably in subtle form in Suksham sharir. I am confused. Please guide. > Thanks and regards > Chetan Merani > > Namaste, the mind let us perceive the world....envelopped in time and space.... this same mind let us know about the limits of this perception....about the limits of time and space this same mind try to get out of this limitations by some practice....of spiritual knowledge... by this same mind....one can experience that one has never be this body- mind-intellect.....by discovering the (unlimited) Self the mind become more and more pure....and it appear more and more like an " instrument " to perceive the world (Maya).... this instrument is part of infinite Brahman........if not.....to " whom " else could belong the (pure mind).....?..... the world appear in all the limits....to a mind.....but maybe this does not mean that the mind is limited.... this does not mean that one is limited by this mind and world.... the real Self can be perceived by a pure mind....by a mind in calmness... .....few thoughts Regards love and peace Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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