Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 namaste all i am having a pecular question, such as is there any scriptures such as puranic stories or subhashita anything which tells the importance of using only GOOD WORDS and avoiding BAD WORDS for any reason while we speak every day. also would like to know what the effect on mind and body if one continuously uses bad words and also how to avoid bad words permanently? please do advice jai thakur cheers narendra sastry _________ Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Ramakrishna , Narendra sastry <digital_brahma> wrote: > namaste all > > i am having a pecular question, such as is there any > scriptures such as puranic stories or subhashita > anything which tells the importance of using only GOOD > WORDS and avoiding BAD WORDS for any reason while we > speak every day. > also would like to know what the effect on mind and > body if one continuously uses bad words and also how > to avoid bad words permanently? please do advice > Namaste, Gita 17:15 says: anudvegakaraM vaakya.n satyaM priyahita.n cha yat.h | svaadhyaayaabhyasana.n chaiva vaaN^mayaM tapa uchyate || Austerity or penance of speech is that in which are words are uttered which give no offence, are truthful, pleasant and beneficial, along with recitation of Vedas. Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Good and bad are in the mind. These are relative terms. Sri Ramakrishna used the word " shala " often. Most of us will agree that it is a " bad " word. So, a few pseudo-intellectuals of that time ridiculed Thakur and did not consider him very pious. We of course know better. I think that what matters is not the use of particular words but the real intention behind it. As to the question on puranic stories, I do not know of any. The Gita urges us to right speech and action. Buddhism also places a lot of importance on Right Speech. Somdev Roy --- Narendra sastry <digital_brahma wrote: > namaste all > > i am having a pecular question, such as is there any > scriptures such as puranic stories or subhashita > anything which tells the importance of using only > GOOD > WORDS and avoiding BAD WORDS for any reason while we > speak every day. > also would like to know what the effect on mind and > body if one continuously uses bad words and also how > to avoid bad words permanently? please do advice > > jai thakur > > cheers > narendra sastry > > > > > > _________ > > Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC > calling worldwide with voicemail > http://uk.messenger. > > > __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Dear Group, Good and Bad are two sides of the same coin. Good to a few could be bad to a few too. It is exactly in your mind. You can express or impress through spoken words. It is a midium only to let another person know what you are actually thinking! Do not put too much emphasis on your spoken words! Always remember God and utter His name only. If that is difficult take refuge to "Mouna" that way only you can stay calm and equipoise like. Om tat sat. Asis Bagchi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Dear Sunder ji, Thank you for the quote. We should be very careful about the way we talk to others. There are very few who can read minds, we can only read the spoken word. We are mostly judged by what we speak and how we speak it. Revered Swami Ranganathanandaji was very emphatic about the control of the tongue and also about the control of the energy dissipated through idle or useless talk. In a way I am very indebted to this group as it helps me avoid idle talk, at least for the period I read the mails and post a few mails myself. It also gives me the benefits of good company. Swami Ranganathanandaji led a very hectic life touring and lecturing. To compensate he used to retire to the Kankhal Ashrama and spend around a month every year practicing absolute mauna. I think he observed the same practice in the Hyderabad Math too. He always stressed on the practice of spirituality. Like Swami Vivekananda before him, he released spirituality from the books and made it available as a tool to make our day to day lives a prayer to God. The Advaita Ashrama has already brought out a collection of his lectures and the second volume is in print. A devotee of his in Kerala has inaugurated an organisation in his name and with his permission. The organisation is now busy with a biography of his to be released on December 15th, Revered Maharaj's birthday. I ended up talking about Swami Ranganathanandaji because Uday's mail on him made me nostalgic. Regards, Jagannath. > Austerity or penance of speech is that in which are words are uttered > which give no offence, are truthful, pleasant and beneficial, along > with recitation of Vedas. > > > Regards, > > Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Hi Narendra, I will share my understanding and thougths on the topic. Phonetic alphabets (combined with intention, feelings, faith) are somehow associated with the most divine energy which is present in every living beings body. Intention, Feelings and Faith are very important because its through them that the phonetic alphabets reach at the level of kundlaini and hence soul. Without concentration, Intention, Feelings and Faith phonetic aphabets can be considered to be generated from a mechanical device i.e. your voice box. Kundalini is the life force which is present in every individual. Balanced flow of this energy is what helps us in living a happy life. Happy in terms of materialism as well as spiritualism. We have a sort of invisible netwrok of nadi's (nerves / pathways) in our body. Prana tattav flows in these pathways. When Prana tattav flows in a particular nadi, it gets expressed as different powers / energy. These powers / energy then gets expressed in the physical body. Whereever these nadi's meet they form a chakra. We have many chakras in our body but main are Muladhar, Svadhistaan, Maipur, Anahat, Vishuddh, Agaya, & Sahasrar. and 3 important nadi's are Ida, Pigla and Sushmna. All these Major chakras have certain phonetic alphabets asociated with them. When a mantra is recited it resonates particular chakras & nadis according to the phonetic symbols present in the mantra. some random exmaples. If you pronounce "Good" it has positive vibes associated with it. It rises the energy upwards. If you pronounce "Bad" it has negative vibes associated with it asking the energy to go down. may be it kind of says hey don't channelise the energy in the wrong direction. If there is adoubt that mantras are evry special and they to be in sanskrit then i will say that mantra doesn't have to be in sanskrit words and it was one of the main accomplishments of Guru Gorakhnath. He created mantras from words used in day to day life and which were as powerful as sanskrit mantras or more powerful than the sanskrit ones too. If you happen read any of theose mantras you will say that doesn't seem like a mantra. As such Chinese call Kundalini as "chi", when used for healing purpose it is referred to as Pranic Healing. Regards, Anurag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Dear Narendra, Pranams, Regarding the importance of language that is spoken, I heard a story that H.H. Swami Ranganathanandaji told in his lecture - Spiritual training of the mind. When he was a kid, Swami Ranganathanandaji used foul language against some one. His mother called him and told him " Dear son, on every one's tongue, mother saraswati resides, which makes them speak. So, don't misuse it and disrespect the mother " . Swami Ranganathanandaji goes on telling that he decided on that day itself that he would use his tongue only to speak things that are useful to everyone and never to hurt others through foul language. I think this personal story of an influential speaker is enough to suggest the power of practicing good thougths and words. Also, Bhathru hari, a famous sanskrit poet, in his Subhashitaani, mentions that of all the " Bhushanas (ornaments) " , " vaakbhusham (ornament of sweet language) " is the best. All other oranaments can be stolen but not the ornament of sweet language. When I was a kid, my dad told me a story. A man got a transfer to another town and he is anxiously inquiring his friends, how the new town is i.e. if people are friendly or hostile etc. One wise man told him that if your mouth is good, everyone will be good to you. You don't have to worry about the town you're visiting. Hope this helps. Sri Ramakrishnaarpana Mastu, Prasad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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