Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Dear all, has anyone in this group read the book " Holy Science " by Swami Yukteshwar Giri? I found it very interesting more becuase it tries to explain of life eternal that a spiritual aspirant is always looking for. If you have read the book " Auto Biography of a Yogi " , Swami Yogananda mentions that the current assumption that this is a Kaliyuga is entirely false..and this happened becuase when Dharmaraj of the Pandavas had left his palace for renunciation and his Grandson tookover and during that time since all the Astrologers of the court had accompanied Dharmaraja, there was no one competent enough left to calculate and hence the mistake. And that the truth is we have entered the golden age etc., Personally to me any work, book or teaching without a refrence to Sri Ramakrishna does not hold any value (well, ofcourse by that i meant, by any contemporary OR post Teachers). In the " Autobiography of a Yogi " Yogananda gained my confidence by refering to Sri Ramakrishna. Sri ramakrishna always mentioned that this is Kaliyuga and during this time the best path to attaining Nirvikalpa Samadhi is Bhakti Yoga. Now, i'm totally at a loss about why these contradicting theories!!! One of my assumptions is that probably what Swami Yogananda was talking about is a subset of Kaliyuga. Again this approach is to satisfy myself that the master cannot be wrong. would be greatful if Anyone please help explain or share some thoughts yours in service naren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Dear Naren, Ramakrishna , " naren_ragani " <naren_ragani> wrote: > > If you have read the book " Auto Biography of a Yogi " , Swami Yogananda > mentions that the current assumption that this is a Kaliyuga is > entirely false..and this happened becuase when Dharmaraj of the > Pandavas had left his palace for renunciation and his Grandson > tookover and during that time since all the Astrologers of the court > had accompanied Dharmaraja, there was no one competent enough left to > calculate and hence the mistake. And that the truth is we have entered > the golden age etc., > I think Sri Krishna Himself has told his close devotees like Uddhava about the approaching Kali Yuga. Bhagavata deals extensively with features of Kali Yuga. Now it may be argued that Bhagavata itself is a recent book. However, to me, the reason given, viz., all astrologers left with Udhishthira, hence there was none who could calculate correctly, does not seem to be logical. > Sri ramakrishna always mentioned that this is Kaliyuga and during this > time the best path to attaining Nirvikalpa Samadhi is Bhakti Yoga. > > Now, i'm totally at a loss about why these contradicting theories!!! Hasn't Swamiji told Satya Yuga has started the day Sri Ramakrishna was born? I think he meant that the preparations for the coming Golden Age has begun and Sri Ramakrishna is the harbinger of that silent but very significant revolution. Swamiji many times talked about the coming Golden Age where India and her spirituality will rule the world. Mahapurush Maharaj has said that Thakur and Swamiji have awakened the 'Kundalini' of India. With best regards, Nikhil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Dear Naren, We believe that this is indeed the Satya Yuga. This is because Thakur's coming has heralded it. When we asked Most Revered Swami Gahanandaji Maharaj, the President of our Order, regarding this at Bhubaneswar he gave the following reply. He said that in spite of the corruption everywhere we must take note of the fact that the corruption is being exposed and corrective steps are being taken. This shows that the Satya Yuga has indeed begun. In fact the statement that the Satya Yuga has begun with the coming of Thakur was made by Most Revered Bhuteshanandaji Maharaj in a lecture which was recorded. We were puzzled by this statement and decided to ask Revered Gahananandaji. Regards, Jagannath. Ramakrishna , " naren_ragani " <naren_ragani> wrote: > > Dear all, > > has anyone in this group read the book " Holy Science " by Swami > Yukteshwar Giri? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Dear Naren: I hope your post generates many comments (I assume many Listees are very familiar with the Self Realization Fellowship of Paramahansa Yogananda). I have read (and relished) both H.S. and Autobiography. In fact, Autobiography was the single most impactful book in my life -- it answered so many questions about the purpose of life, and came at a point in life when I was ready to hear them (I understand this is the case of many readers!) -- Indeed, this inspired book woke me up! I will forever be grateful to its author. In addition to the "yuga issue," Yogananda also recommends raja yoga (i.e., meditation) in preference to bhakti yoga -- so, another "disagreement." (But, not from Sri Ramakrishna's standpoint -- all roads lead to "Rome.") Regarding your point that Yogananda references Sri Ramakrishna, the reference is only one sentance in length (I'm going from memory, here) and refers to him as a "great saint." I guess that's better than no mention at all! But, hardly an endorsement. I "discovered" Sri Ramakrishna (via the Gospel) some 5 years after reading and revering the Autobiography (and many other writings of Yogananda). I immediately changed my "allegiance" to the Avatar of our age. Therefore, wherever a conflict of "opinion" exists between Sri Ramakrishna and anyone else -- I'll stick with the "Primary Source!" This is accomplished through faith -- no proofs required. Jai Ramakrishna, Brad Please visit: www.healthsystemredesign.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Dear All, Namah Ramakrishnaya Paramatmaney namaha. India is rising slowly and surely and it is going through all the teething problems right now, satya juga, dharma juga is beginning to unfold. I reckon in another 20 - 25 years people will witness a big difference in this world. Spirituality will trigger in every human heart, to drive away misery, to invite "Satya", "Sundar" and "eternal bliss" in life. Ramakrishna Jagatguru will prevail. Om tat sat. Asis Bagchi PS: It may be a wishful thinking but it is the truth, the whole truth, and it shall prevail for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Jai Sri Ram!Beloved Brother Brad, " Autobiography of a Yogi " is and was an eye opener for me too! My Gurudev respects all the paths and bows down to all and asserts that " Teachings of a Great-Soul is not His personality " Their teachings depend on the " civilization " , " Receptacle " and Place in which they are given... e.g Sri Bhagvan Adi Sankaracharya and J Krishna Murthy.So may be I am not wrong in saying that Yoganandji was just laying stress on some technique to lay the foundation but " He, himself sung that God can be attained not by techniques or like, but by pure love. " Brother, " Yoganandji's " arrival was prophesied by Swamiji. ... And a Mother is very happy when its baby is praised,than being praised. Similarly, Yoganandji, has paid a priceless tribute to our Gurumaharaj, by paying it to M. What joy it gives us to go through the chapter " The Blissful Saint " where in He says that M was a disciple/ Devotee of a " Christ like Master " , what tribute could be much more befitting than this? But Brother, My Gurudev says that " Thakur is enough for a holistic growth, Keeping Him as the Basis enjoy all the Saints " . Let us all bow down to all the Saints whole heartedly for as my Gurudev says " Skin Deep, Saints are Gods! " Seeking Your good will,In our Lord Sri RamaKrishna: venu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Dear Brad, I agree that in the book u mentioned, Sri Yogananda mentions of Sri Ramakrishna in only one Paragraph, but not in a single sentence. But, there is also an entire chapter that talks about his encounter with Mahendranath Gupta (M, author of the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna). He wrote that M. gave him great spiritual instructions but at the end he told that his (M's) guruji (Sri Ramakrishna) told him all that. I think it's an indirect reference to the greatness of Sri Ramakrishna, as it's often said, to know the greatness of a tree, look at it's fruits. I am not trying to convince that his mention of Sri Ramakrishna is sufficient. But the book was emphasizing on the importance of Kriya yoga (a path of Raja Yoga), which Thakur didn't prescribe for this age. I really appreciated the book and it gave a boost to my nascent interest in Yoga. But I thought that it was more emphasizing on the " miracles " of Yoga rather than selfless love to God, which Thakur always emphasized. After reading that Thakur cautioned us to shun " miracles " and move forward to realize the ultimate bliss of selfless love to God, I put my allegiance to Thakur. Pranams, Prasad Ramakrishna , " Brad Stephan " <brad@w...> wrote: > > BlankDear Naren: > Regarding your point that Yogananda references Sri Ramakrishna, the reference is only one sentance in length (I'm going from memory, here) and refers to him as a " great saint. " I guess that's better than no mention at all! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Namaste, It is my understanding that Sri Yukteswar got the math right. All evidence in the world supports it. We entered Dwapara around 1900 with the further awakening of intellect. Love, Bob Rose Dear all, has anyone in this group read the book " Holy Science " by Swami Yukteshwar Giri? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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