Can spirituality cause disease?

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@, " wrote:> One more thing, some of the greatest yogis like Ramana Maharishi and > ramakrishna (and Now Subramaniya Swami) developed cancer and died as a > result. Can we say Yoga causes cancer?> >--------------------------- Yes, intense spiritual practice can totally devastate the body. The incarnations also take upon themselves the ills of the world and of their devotees. This was mentioned by Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi, Sri Ramakrishna, and also Sri Aurobindo. I do not remember exactly what Bhagawan Ramana said but Sri Ramakrishna pointed to a devotee who he had reformed from a great sinner to one of the greatest saints of his time. Sri Aurobindo said he had taken upon himself some force that would have harmed India. Sri Ramakrishna

suffered from throat cancer which began as a clergyman's sore throat. He refused to stop talking to his devotees which aggravated his illness. He prayed to Mother Kali to be cured but was rebuked in return. He then bore everything calmly though one incident did reveal publicly that he was above the ailment. (He rushed out of his deathbed to save some devotees from a poisonous snake. He chased the snake way and managed to sneak back to his room but someone saw him in the process). Incidentally Sri Ramakrishna was cured of many an ailment by ayurveda. Ayurveda recognises such ailments as "yogaja vyadhi". He was also helped by homeopathy being treated by Dr Mahendra Nath Sircar himself. In the last year allopathy was tried but he refused to listen to any advice. His doctors were usually so enchanted by his words and personality that they neglected their practice to be by his side. They also marveled at his mental clarity and sense of humour

even while suffering so much pain and anguish. One of them even examined his samadhi state by touching his eyeball and testing for signs of breathing. The eyeball did not move and there was no breath. Bhagawan Ramana was operated upon his cancerous tumour without anaesthesia. He too thus proved that the illness was under his control. He had refused the operation but concerned devotees forced him into it. Earlier also Bhagawan had borne the bites of rats as he meditated in a deep crevice of a temple. A devotee of Sri Ramakrishna, Swami Turyiananda too underwent a major operation without anaesthesia. Sri Aurobindo refused treatment at the end of his life (He was never in favour of allopathy and was a bitter critic of the science). His physician declared him dead and wanted to give orders for cremation. But The Mother said he was not really dead which made the doctor suspect the sanity of The Mother. Then he witnessed the sight, aided by the yogic powers of The Mother, which he could not forget ever. A great beam of light alighted on the supposedly dead body of Sri Aurobindo and with great force too. After sometime the light receded, but even then The Mother waited for three days. During this time a clear and bright bluish light was seen as an aura around him. Those who have seen the photograph of that time will know. Those photographs have now been taken out of circulation. Only when the aura receded was the body buried. Regards,Jagannath. "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo.

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Are pictures of the aura available?Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01&gt

 

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Recently when I had been on a tour of different Ashramas of Ramakrishna Mission, I came across many Saints/Maharajs who were suffereing from Cancer. I somehow noticed a trend of Cancer and diabetes among the Saints in Ramakrishna Order. I understand that the Maharaj's who practise Yogic Methods are prone to the Cancer. I was curious about its physiological persepective. Why it triggers the cancerous growth. which Yogic methods are responsible for it. Does Yogic methods trigger the Oncogenes. I am curious about its scientific perspective. It would be great if anybody could show me some light in this subject? Regards

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How does this compare with the perfected Siddhas, all of them who

practised intense spiritual sadhana, and not only did their diseases

vanish, they attained a transformation of the physical body!

The most famous case of total body transformation is of course Sri

Swami Ramalinga Swamigal,who has even described the steps of his

transformation.

Then there is Babaji, whose accounts you can read in Sri Yogananda's

Autobilgraphy, as well as an awesome book by M. Govindam called

'Babaji and the 18 Siddha yoga tradition " .

We have also read the Shiva Puran, in which is mentioned the brilliant

example of Rishi Dhatiji, who after chanting the mahamrityunjaya

mantra gained the blessing of immortsality from Lord Shiva Himself.

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monalisa chandra <mastpis2001 wrote: Recently when I had been on a tour of different Ashramas of Ramakrishna Mission, I came across many Saints/Maharajs who were suffereing from Cancer. I somehow noticed a trend of Cancer and diabetes among the Saints in Ramakrishna Order. From Sankarraman The following spiritual personalities suffered from cancer at the end of their lives, apart from Ramakrishna: Nisargdatta Maharaj, J.Krishnamurthy and the great sage, Bhaghavan Ramana. Bhaghavan did not care about the disease. When the devotees made mention of the great swelling in the cancerous part, Bhaghavan replied that the body itself was a great swelling. Nisargdatta said that it

was the play of the five elements, and the manifest consciousness which is time-bound should come to an end. Strangely, J.Krishnamurthy raised the question as to how the pure body, created only for the purpose of the transmission of the message, should have come to have that disease. He felt that it should not have had that end. It is difficult to digest as to how the great philosopher, who said that death was a small affair, should have analysed its causation at the end. The one logical way of explaining all these things, which, one does not know, whether it is explaining away things, is that the mahatmas suffer all the pains in their last birth to extinguish their prarabdha. Leave alone the great mahatmas, even the seekers after truth court many mental problems on account of the enormous weight of loneliness that they experience in the spiritual life. It is like swimming against the current. Realization is not an easy reward or a

comfortable mental state that we imagine it to be. We have to court all types of problems. It is like a calamity as U.G.Krishnamurthy says. with kind regards, Sankarraman __,_._,_FF__

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Hi, This is regarding the mail I read where the sender speaks of the Siddhas who can cure diseases of their own selves. I believe that those who come on this earth to deliver message of the Supreme personality of Godhead, were and are free from all wants including curing their own diseases. Jesus did not resist or use heavenly powers to get rid of the evil men who tortured him, neither Lord Buddha supported this application of Siddha for personal gains. It is also a part of teaching that the common people must know how great souls even when suffering from incurable ailments and amidst intense physical pains, they do not ever forget God. This teaches the common people like us that the spiritual joy can overcome mortal pains and sorrows. So, the Yogis who cured themselves with the help of divine powers, are certainly respectable but those who did not try to get rid of their pains, instead those who suffered and bore the pains and blessed

the world are seated at a higher place in the hearts of all. Satrajit Gupta

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