Queries from mehendalekaustubh

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Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:00:30 -0000

" mehendalekaustubh " <mehendalekaustubh

cpkumar

Three Querries

 

(1)I waould like to know the difference between a Math and a

Mandir.What is the criteria for deciding whether a place of worship

is a math or a mandir?

 

(2)Secondly,i would like to know whether is there any casette or cd

available for the song " khandana bhava bandhana jaga " by Swami

Vivekananda?Or is there a link from where i can download this song? I

have already downloaded this song but i can't hear it unless i am

connected to the internet.

 

(3)Thirdly,is there a book wherein i can get all the songs and hymns

sung by Sri Ramakrishna Deva in the company of his devotees or sung

by Swami Vivekananda or other devotees?The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

has songs in it but is there a book specially meant for songs and

hymns(a compilation) wherein i can get the explanation of the meaning

conveyed by the songs and hymns.

 

Please reply and convey.

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I can help with the second question. The song can be downloaded from http://www.sriramakrishna.org/real.htm and ofcourse you can listen to the songs without being logged in to the internet. The text of the song is available with RKM, delhi site. The URL is http://www.rkmissiondel.org/inside/Aarti.htm. Tanmoy "C. P. Kumar" <cpkumar wrote: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:00:30 -0000 "

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Ramakrishna , " C. P. Kumar " <cpkumar wrote:

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> Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:00:30 -0000

> " mehendalekaustubh " <mehendalekaustubh

> cpkumar

> Three Querries

 

Hi,

 

If you are in India or in a city with a branch of RKM or Vedanta

center, they have for sale in their bookstores the things you have

mentioned. Some of the centers sell online as well. Generally, a

mandir is a place of worship and math is a place where sannyasis

reside. The two are of course closely related e.g. church and seminary.

 

Partha

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Yes, brother, all these things are available from book store of any Ramakrishna Ashram in Bharat and also in their centers abroad. To the best of my knowledge: 1. Mandir is the place where Bhagwan's Murthi in some form or other is installed and worshipped; while Math is a place where Sadhus and novices (trainees) live and practice sadhna. They may or may not have a Mandir in their premises. 2. Aratrikam: "Khandan Bhava Bandhan.....' is available in CD as well as Cassette format from Ramakrishna Mission Sardapitha, P.O. Belur Math, Howrah 711 202, West Bengal. (Tel: +91-33-26546080; email: rmsppp) It is also available on Ramakrishna web sites. Recorded cassette is also available from Bangalore center. 3. Sardapitha ( address given above) has also made many other CDs and cassettes related to Ramakrishna/ Vivekananda as also important Hindu scriptures like

Bhagvad Geeta, Sri Sri Chandi, Ramnam Sankirtanam etc. They also have a set of six CDs/cassettes giving all the songs mentioned in The Gospel of Ramakrishna - all these are in Bengali, sung by swamis of the Mission and lay devotees. You can buy these directly from sardapitha or from any of the Ramakrishna Mission center. I hope this information is helpful. Regards Chetan Merani

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HI Kumar,You can download the song "khandana bhava bandhana jaga" by Swami Vivekananda from the site below.http://www.rkmissiondel.org/inside/Aarti.htmRegards,Mohan.

 

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Thank you Tanmoyji. This is a nice site for Aarti songs.

 

Van

Ramakrishna , Tanmoy Banerjee <tanmoykumarb

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> I can help with the second question.

> The song can be downloaded from

http://www.sriramakrishna.org/real.htm and ofcourse you can listen to

the songs without being logged in to the internet. The text of the

song is available with RKM, delhi site. The URL is

http://www.rkmissiondel.org/inside/Aarti.htm.

>

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Dear All,

 

Is there any course for meditation conducted by Ramakrishna mutt at chennai ?

 

Regards,S.KarthikVandemataram

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NamasteDear karthikRamakrishna Mission Ashrama, T.Nagar conducting personality development workshop & guided meditation on 4th Sunday of every month. This link will provide more information http://rkmchennai.org/pd.htmlYoursVivek----- Original Message ----skarthik <skarthikRamakrishna Sent: Thursday, 5 April, 2007 7:19:01 PMRe: [sri Ramakrishna] Queries from mehendalekaustubh

 

 

Dear All,

 

Is there any course for meditation conducted by Ramakrishna mutt at chennai ?

 

Regards,S.KarthikVandemataram

 

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Thanks a lot Vivek Sir.

Regards,S.KarthikVandemataram

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how to over come lust......i am suffering from it 4 7 years.................... skarthik <skarthik wrote: Thanks a lot Vivek Sir. Regards,S.KarthikVandemataram

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Dear Nandi, Love and Love alone.... First of all, you do not have to feel guilty about it. Every human being has one problem or the other and you are not an exception. Added to it, the moment you are aware of the problem means, you have already won half of the battle. And, now you are trying to overcome it. It is definitely a good sign and progress. Now, what you have to do is that just concentrate on the opposite quality of lust, i.e., worship the female form. Just think every female is Goddess Durga and the moment you see any female just think of Goddess Durga and offer flowers at her feet mentally. Keep on doing this again and again and for several days, months and years till it becomes a natural habit. Mind will not accept and allow you, but you have to mend the mind. And, this is the only easiest and best way. Also, keep reciting some mantra or slokas whenever you get thoughts on lust. May Divine Mother bless

you. Love and Love alone

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Give it

a higher spiritual turn…Read spiritual truths and meditate on it…

Get a Guru… whatever it takes…

 

Venkataramani

 

 

Ramakrishna

[Ramakrishna ] On

Behalf Of maha nandhi

Monday, April 23, 2007 8:38

AM

Ramakrishna

Re: [sri Ramakrishna]

Queries from mehendalekaustubh

 

 

 

 

 

how to over come lust......i am suffering from it 4 7

years....................

 

 

 

 

skarthik

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Thanks a lot Vivek Sir.

 

 

Regards,

S.Karthik

Vandemataram

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaste,

 

I asume by lust you mean lust for sex. It will not be easy. You must change the object of what you receive pleasure from. If you change it to the self, to God, through spiritual practice, then gradually the pleasure you get from that will exceed all others and the desire for pleasure from form will diminish and become easy to control. The company of the Holy can do more to help you than you can imagine. Seek it and keep seeking it.

 

All my love and prayers for your success, Bob Rose

 

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maha nandhi

Ramakrishna

Monday, April 23, 2007 8:38 AM

Re: [sri Ramakrishna] Queries from mehendalekaustubh

 

 

 

how to over come lust......i am suffering from it 4 7 years....................

skarthik <skarthik (AT) lasersoft (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

Thanks a lot Vivek Sir.

Regards,S.KarthikVandemataram

 

 

 

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That's a Candid admission.Most of us r prey to Lust.I think that this can only be conquered if one can take Monastic vows--- as a householder is ts rather difficult.....Venkataramani Krishnamurthy <mrvenkatkrish

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Surrender sincerely to God and everything will be looked after.It has worked for me and I hope it works for you.maha nandhi <nandhi_2007 wrote: how to over come lust......i am suffering from it 4 7 years.................... skarthik <skarthik (AT) lasersoft (DOT) co.in> wrote: Thanks a lot Vivek Sir. Regards,S.KarthikVandemataram Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos.

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Dear S. Karthik:

Latu Maharaj says that one should stare at a photo of Ramakrishna until the lust subsides.

God bless,

Brad

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bhaskar mukherjee

Ramakrishna

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 5:56 AM

RE: [sri Ramakrishna] Queries from mehendalekaustubh

 

That's a Candid admission.Most of us r prey to Lust.I think that this can only be conquered if one can take Monastic vows--- as a householder is ts rather difficult.....Venkataramani

 

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Monastics too struggle with lust. A devotee of Sri Ramakrishna should not say that lust cannot be conquered if one is a householder.

Sri Ramakrishna's life and teachings have offered a new path. "After the birth of one or two children, husband and wife should live like brother and sister."

This is a new prescription for this age.

 

jay

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Hello Everyone,

I am not quite sure anymore what surrender means because if it is

leaving oneself at the mercy of God then that never worked for me

because that idea seems to be of weakness and helplessness. As Swamiji

said, he waited forever for help to come from outside but it never did

because the strength we need is within and that is the only place we

get real help from. He also said be fearless and don't worry what

becomes of you, and that surrender I can very well understand because

that is essentially a surrender of the fruits of action.

Coming to the point of lust. The only times I have been able to

prevail over it is when my mind was absolutely clear and bringing

forth the intelligence and knowledge I have about the truths that

others have discovered and I have by the way of suffering from lust.

The effect of things like seeing Durga in women and several other

distractions eventually wore out and did not work for me. I have never

had any spiritual experience and have nothing but my mind to fall back

on in these moments of trial. Whenever there is an imbalance in my

living or feeling of discontentment the mind becomes restless and

unruly and that's when all the evil tendencies raise their ugly heads

because they are essentially and expression of my being seeking

fulfillment, albeit in an unwholesome manner. Having a clear sense of

one's future goals (whether spiritual or worldly) and accordingly

following a disciplined life helps bring the mind come to rest, be

clear and not clogged with emotions. A mind which is seeking great

things in any realm and is still content is less likely to be

distracted. I don't believe any spiritual approach is essential

(though for many it clearly is the best way) to cure this menace

because lust is at the superficial level of mind and and can be dealt

with there itself. Once you know lust needs to go away then that's it.

Recognizing one's own intelligence to differentiate right from wrong

is all what is needed. I believe all of us here have that because

that's why we are in this group. No God has ever come for me and I am

tired of waiting for one. Swamiji said that we have become lazy and

want a personal God to come and save us. He never does and it took me

a long time to learn it by experience. Reveal that strong, alert and

discriminating mind and be constantly in touch with it. No divine

intervention is needed, just faith in one's self. I am not talking

about any spiritual concepts like contemplating about Atman and

Brahman or doing meditation etc. Just a man and the power of the

character he was born with. I am sure all of us have experienced it.

Just grab onto that and never let go and it carries one through

everything.

Fight fire with fire. That's what I try to do.

Regards,

Siddharth

 

 

Ramakrishna , gireeshma reddy

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> Surrender sincerely to God and everything will be looked after.It

has worked for me and I hope it works for you.

> maha nandhi <nandhi_2007 wrote: how to over come

lust......i am suffering from it 4 7 years....................

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> skarthik <skarthik wrote:

> Thanks a lot Vivek Sir.

> Regards,

> S.Karthik

> Vandemataram

>

 

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check out new cars at Autos.

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> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

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Namaste,

 

That is not true. I live in an ashram full of housholders who are celebate. Many still live together as a couple but abstain. Lust is "conquered" when it's object is eternal.

 

Love, Bob Rose

 

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bhaskar mukherjee

Ramakrishna

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:56 AM

RE: [sri Ramakrishna] Queries from mehendalekaustubh

 

 

That's a Candid admission.Most of us r prey to Lust.I think that this can only be conquered if one can take Monastic vows--- as a householder is ts rather difficult.....Venkataramani Krishnamurthy <mrvenkatkrish >

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Sir/Madam

 

Please do not see sexual desire as a enemy!

 

I think that is where the problem lies! The more you fear it, the more the consciouness is full of it!

 

My sister is afraid of lizards.

 

She is so scared of it, that any object that remotely resembles a lizard, scares her to death! She hates the texture of certain vegetables because they remind her of lizard! Just see, how her whole consciousness is filled with the object of fear!

 

So if we fear lust, I think, we will not be able to tackle it! We will run away from it or we will fight it(w eknow fighting will have its own reaction), so temporarily we may find respite, but it will be hidden!

 

So our idea should be to be able to understand , observe, tackle and dissolve all that is in the conscious as well as subconcious !

 

Understanding the genesis of sexual desire should be helpful!! Why sexual desire, where does it start, what is the reasons etc!!

 

A sincere and constant observation of the "movement of the sexual desirewhen it appears in the mind"..........meaning..........when we feel sexual, ask ourselves what is it we have seen or experienced now that is triggering all those images and experiences hidden in the subconscious.

 

This is what i mean by observing the movement of the sexual desire!

 

The desire may prompt us to do something to give in or do something to control(escape...like take the name of god etc etc)! Between these 2 options is another option "to observe the mind and its movement"!!! If we are able to do it, I think this is meditation in itself!

 

This kind of observation, i believe, we need to be doing at all the times! observing our own minds!!!

 

Swamiji says, at the moment of temptation we need a higher power to help us!!

 

I am not an authority on the subject, but this helps me!

 

Hope you find it useful

 

Best wishes

Sunil

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Is it really true? I know about only one man who conquered it in spite being a Householder - He was Ramakrishna.

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Truly the only "hoseholder" to have Conqured ALL is Thakur. We can only derive some inspiration from it and srugggle and paray that He rescues us, Bhaskar

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Namaste, Congratulations if u have conquered lust.As for me it is still a yearning ....pary for Thankur's Grace. BhaskarBob Rose <bobrose108 wrote:

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What about the example of " Nag Mahashaya " ...?

 

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> 2a. Re: Queries from mehendalekaustubh

> Posted by: " Arghya Kundu " akundu2000 akundu2000

> Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:00 pm ((PDT))

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> Is it really true? I know about only one man who conquered it in spite being

> a Householder - He was Ramakrishna.

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> Regards,

> Arghya

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Friends, Namaskrs. Amongst Sri Ramakrishna's disciples there were some who were life long celibates though married: Swami Shivanada was married before he took sanyas and lived with his wife, but remained celibate; and that is why Swami Vivekananda called him 'Mahapurush'. Nag Mahashya, though married twice under his father's pressure, remained celibate though he lived with his wife till his end. There may be more which I may not be aware of. I also know some lesser known individuals in Sind, who remained celibate though they lived with their wives. In 'Vanprasth' stage, many old couples remain celibate in Bharat. Sri Ramakrishna's case is however entirely different. In his case even though his young wife selpt with him on the same bed for several months, he remained God-intoxicated all through! Regards Chetan