Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Placed At : MAATDLN Dear Members of Samratchana Family, Shankaram Shiva Shankaram... I wish to share with you, a wonderful moment, I had with our Baba. Baba, asked me to tell everyone the relationship between Baba and Myself. I was spellbound, I had no exact word to tell the relationship...then I just prayed to Baba .. to provide me the answer. When I closed my eyes " I got few words " I expressed my feelings and shared the same with all in Kelambakkam. If we all close our eyes and just think about this point for a while, we will agree that we all have enjoyed our Baba as our Mother, Father, Guru and if blessed the very embodiment of Divinity (God)... There is a old Tamil Film song: " Matha. Pitha, Guru, Daivam. Avar Malar Adi, Thinam Thinam Panithida vendum. Matha, Pitha, Guru, Daivam " ... song goes on.. Our Baba is :Matha, Pitha, Guru and Daivam (and More).. Baba as Mother: Many of us, have so many worldly problems, we go to Baba for solutions, there He is with Lots of Love to shower on us and ensure to us that He is with us always caring and loving as a Mother. Ofcourse, much more than any mother. Baba as Father: Later, when we have accepted Him as our Mother and more than that, when He with His Love has accepted us as His child, slowly and steadily corrects us as a Father. This is where some of our brothers and sisters of Samratchana family get confused. What is this ? Baba was so loving, kind and always laughing !!! Suddenly He appears to be enforcing lot of rules. Yes as Baba, himself has repeatedly told us that, we should not try to analyse his activities, we after accepting Him have to just hold on to Him come what may. He will take care of the rest. We become happy when Baba give us responsibilities. Same time He will also expect certain amount of accountability from us for the work assigned to us. He is there as a Father to correct us to ensure we deliver the results effectively to the satisfaction of all. One can easily distinguish between Motherly Love and Father Love from our Baba. The very way he acknowledges our act will reveal the same. Baba knows, who is in need and aspiring for more Motherly love or Fatherly Love.. Actually LOVE is God - there is not varieties like " Krishna Sweets " ...Fatherly love and Motherly love - just for our understand I am just mentioning here some varieties. We can have it like this - " the Way a Mother will show her Love " and " the Way a Father will show his Love " and so on....Almost all of us must have experience these variations in our own life, hence it will be easy to compare the same and finally understand and accept that Baba takes us all through these stages of His Love for a Higher altitudes. Baba as Guru Guru means - the one who leads us from darkness to light. Baba has proved on many occassions that He is the Guru for the contemporary world. We have sung this song in our school days: Uruvai aruvai uladhai iladhai, maruvai malarai maniyai oliyai karuvai uyirai gadhiyai vidhiyai, guruvai varuvai arulvai guhaney Meaning : O! Lord Muruga you are the one with the form, you are also one without a form. You are the one who has it all, and you are the one who does not have it all, you are present in the smallest, in the flower, in the ring of the bell, and in the Light. You are the embryo, you are the life, you are the destiny, and you are the fate. Please come upon us as our Guru and bestow your blessings. Yes Baba has come upon us as our Guru.. Darkness to Light can be ignorance to Eternal Bliss. We all have enjoyed how our Baba explains to us most difficult philosophies in a such a simple manner with worldly examples and jokes. We can discuss on this with plenty of examples for all our lives. Yes as an ideal Guru - Baba leads us in the right Direction for simple Self-Satisfaction to Salvation. Baba as God: I am one of those unfortunate mortals, who have not experienced Baba as God. I am undergoing the stages of love of our Baba. I have experienced Baba as Mother, Father and Guru and much More than these mere words. Word as just words - if it is not backed by experience. Like, when Adi Shankara has experienced " Nir Guna Bhraman " for him it is an experience and for others they are just words. Similarly when Ramana Maha Rishi asked " Who am I " for him it is an experience and for others these are just words. Yes, our Baba has to be experienced and not explained. It is not a must that all Samratchana member have to start from Mother, followed by Father, Guru and finally realise Baba as God. One may start accepting and experiencing Baba from Father's level or One may start following Baba as a Guru from the day one and Blessed are those who got some Divine experiences from day one.... Our Baba has mentioned in His lectures that, we need God's blessing to be HIS devotee to pray to Him. Accordingly I submit this mail at our Baba's Divine Lotus Feet as my Prayers to bless us all with His Divine Love so that we evolve as worthy instrument in His hands and reach our ultimate goal. Shankaram Shiva Shankaram. With Hearty Prayers Krish (Krishnamoorthy.V) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Dear All, I am new to this group. I am Kamal 23 working as a software engn in chennai. Sofar i have not seen baba but heard abt him few times. So can i have some details reg this group like the " Hello World " info in java Regards Kamal. On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 v_krish wrote : > Placed At : >MAATDLN >Dear Members of Samratchana Family, >Shankaram Shiva Shankaram... >I wish to share with you, a wonderful moment, I had with our >Baba. >Baba, asked me to tell everyone the relationship between Baba and >Myself. >I was spellbound, I had no exact word to tell the >relationship...then I >just prayed to Baba .. to provide me the answer. >When I closed my eyes " I got few words " I expressed my feelings >and shared >the same with all in Kelambakkam. >If we all close our eyes and just think about this point for a >while, we >will agree that we all have enjoyed our Baba as our Mother, >Father, Guru >and if blessed the very embodiment of Divinity (God)... >There is a old Tamil Film song: > " Matha. Pitha, Guru, Daivam. >Avar Malar Adi, Thinam Thinam Panithida vendum. >Matha, Pitha, Guru, Daivam " ... song goes on.. >Our Baba is :Matha, Pitha, Guru and Daivam (and More).. >Baba as Mother: >Many of us, have so many worldly problems, we go to Baba for >solutions, >there He is with Lots of Love to shower on us and ensure to us >that He is >with us always caring and loving as a Mother. Ofcourse, much >more than any >mother. >Baba as Father: >Later, when we have accepted Him as our Mother and more than >that, when He >with His Love has accepted us as His child, slowly and steadily >corrects us >as a Father. This is where some of our brothers and sisters of >Samratchana >family get confused. What is this ? Baba was so loving, kind and >always >laughing !!! Suddenly He appears to be enforcing lot of rules. >Yes as >Baba, himself has repeatedly told us that, we should not try to >analyse his >activities, we after accepting Him have to just hold on to Him >come what >may. He will take care of the rest. We become happy when Baba >give us >responsibilities. Same time He will also expect certain amount >of >accountability from us for the work assigned to us. He is there >as a Father >to correct us to ensure we deliver the results effectively to >the >satisfaction of all. >One can easily distinguish between Motherly Love and Father Love > from our >Baba. The very way he acknowledges our act will reveal the same. >Baba >knows, who is in need and aspiring for more Motherly love or >Fatherly >Love.. >Actually LOVE is God - there is not varieties like " Krishna >Sweets " ...Fatherly love and Motherly love - just for our >understand I am >just mentioning here some varieties. We can have it like this - > " the Way a >Mother will show her Love " and " the Way a Father will show his >Love " and so >on....Almost all of us must have experience these variations in >our own >life, hence it will be easy to compare the same and finally >understand and >accept that Baba takes us all through these stages of His Love >for a Higher >altitudes. >Baba as Guru >Guru means - the one who leads us from darkness to light. Baba >has proved >on many occassions that He is the Guru for the contemporary >world. >We have sung this song in our school days: >Uruvai aruvai uladhai iladhai, maruvai malarai maniyai oliyai >karuvai uyirai gadhiyai vidhiyai, guruvai varuvai arulvai >guhaney >Meaning : O! Lord Muruga you are the one with the form, you are >also one >without a form. You are the one who has it all, and you are the >one who >does not have it all, you are present in the smallest, in the >flower, in >the ring of the bell, and in the Light. You are the embryo, you >are the >life, you are the destiny, and you are the fate. Please come upon >us as our >Guru and bestow your blessings. >Yes Baba has come upon us as our Guru.. >Darkness to Light can be ignorance to Eternal Bliss. We all have >enjoyed >how our Baba explains to us most difficult philosophies in a such >a simple >manner with worldly examples and jokes. We can discuss on this >with plenty >of examples for all our lives. Yes as an ideal Guru - Baba leads >us in the >right Direction for simple Self-Satisfaction to Salvation. >Baba as God: >I am one of those unfortunate mortals, who have not experienced >Baba as >God. I am undergoing the stages of love of our Baba. I have >experienced >Baba as Mother, Father and Guru and much More than these mere >words. Word >as just words - if it is not backed by experience. Like, when Adi >Shankara >has experienced " Nir Guna Bhraman " for him it is an experience >and for >others they are just words. Similarly when Ramana Maha Rishi >asked " Who am >I " for him it is an experience and for others these are just >words. >Yes, our Baba has to be experienced and not explained. >It is not a must that all Samratchana member have to start from >Mother, >followed by Father, Guru and finally realise Baba as God. One >may start >accepting and experiencing Baba from Father's level or One may >start >following Baba as a Guru from the day one and Blessed are those >who got >some Divine experiences from day one.... >Our Baba has mentioned in His lectures that, we need God's >blessing to be >HIS devotee to pray to Him. Accordingly I submit this mail at >our Baba's >Divine Lotus Feet as my Prayers to bless us all with His Divine >Love so >that we evolve as worthy instrument in His hands and reach our >ultimate >goal. >Shankaram Shiva Shankaram. >With Hearty Prayers >Krish >(Krishnamoorthy.V) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 Sankaram Siva Sankaram. Jai Gurudev. Dear Kamal, Welcome to the group. I am sriram from Madras in India. You have to experience yourself about who Baba is before you start believing Him. My experiences with baba dates back to Jan. 1997. I am His devotee since then. I did not believe in Baba the first time i met Him. I once heard Him saying in one of His talks that He is God Himself. I pondered on this and came to the conclusion that a person cannot make such a statement unless He is having the authority to do so i.e. i ceonjectured that a person cannot make an assertion boldly like that unless He is really such a one as He claims to be. Once i realized this, then i had nothing else than to surrender myself entirely to Him(God). Since then i am ever happy. Baba totally takes care of me and i believe that i should learn to accept Him and accept whatever He gives even if it be not to my liking or convenience. I have seen my spiritual growth since the moment i surrendered to Him entirely. Wishing to hear your rejoinder to this. Sriram. S. --- Frenz <java4all wrote: > Dear All, > > I am new to this group. I am Kamal 23 working as a > software engn > in chennai. Sofar i have not seen baba but heard abt > him few > times. So can i have some details reg this group > like the " Hello > World " info in java > > Regards > Kamal. > > > > > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 v_krish wrote : > > > > Placed At : > >MAATDLN > >Dear Members of Samratchana Family, > >Shankaram Shiva Shankaram... > >I wish to share with you, a wonderful moment, I had > with our > >Baba. > >Baba, asked me to tell everyone the relationship > between Baba and > >Myself. > >I was spellbound, I had no exact word to tell the > >relationship...then I > >just prayed to Baba .. to provide me the answer. > >When I closed my eyes " I got few words " I > expressed my feelings > >and shared > >the same with all in Kelambakkam. > >If we all close our eyes and just think about this > point for a > >while, we > >will agree that we all have enjoyed our Baba as our > Mother, > >Father, Guru > >and if blessed the very embodiment of Divinity > (God)... > >There is a old Tamil Film song: > > " Matha. Pitha, Guru, Daivam. > >Avar Malar Adi, Thinam Thinam Panithida vendum. > >Matha, Pitha, Guru, Daivam " ... song goes on.. > >Our Baba is :Matha, Pitha, Guru and Daivam (and > More).. > >Baba as Mother: > >Many of us, have so many worldly problems, we go to > Baba for > >solutions, > >there He is with Lots of Love to shower on us and > ensure to us > >that He is > >with us always caring and loving as a Mother. > Ofcourse, much > >more than any > >mother. > >Baba as Father: > >Later, when we have accepted Him as our Mother and > more than > >that, when He > >with His Love has accepted us as His child, slowly > and steadily > >corrects us > >as a Father. This is where some of our brothers > and sisters of > >Samratchana > >family get confused. What is this ? Baba was so > loving, kind and > >always > >laughing !!! Suddenly He appears to be enforcing > lot of rules. > >Yes as > >Baba, himself has repeatedly told us that, we > should not try to > >analyse his > >activities, we after accepting Him have to just > hold on to Him > >come what > >may. He will take care of the rest. We become > happy when Baba > >give us > >responsibilities. Same time He will also expect > certain amount > >of > >accountability from us for the work assigned to us. > He is there > >as a Father > >to correct us to ensure we deliver the results > effectively to > >the > >satisfaction of all. > >One can easily distinguish between Motherly Love > and Father Love > > from our > >Baba. The very way he acknowledges our act will > reveal the same. > >Baba > >knows, who is in need and aspiring for more > Motherly love or > >Fatherly > >Love.. > >Actually LOVE is God - there is not varieties like > " Krishna > >Sweets " ...Fatherly love and Motherly love - just > for our > >understand I am > >just mentioning here some varieties. We can have it > like this - > > " the Way a > >Mother will show her Love " and " the Way a Father > will show his > >Love " and so > >on....Almost all of us must have experience these > variations in > >our own > >life, hence it will be easy to compare the same and > finally > >understand and > >accept that Baba takes us all through these stages > of His Love > >for a Higher > >altitudes. > >Baba as Guru > >Guru means - the one who leads us from darkness to > light. Baba > >has proved > >on many occassions that He is the Guru for the > contemporary > >world. > >We have sung this song in our school days: > >Uruvai aruvai uladhai iladhai, maruvai malarai > maniyai oliyai > >karuvai uyirai gadhiyai vidhiyai, guruvai varuvai > arulvai > >guhaney > >Meaning : O! Lord Muruga you are the one with the > form, you are > >also one > >without a form. You are the one who has it all, and > you are the > >one who > >does not have it all, you are present in the > smallest, in the > >flower, in > >the ring of the bell, and in the Light. You are the > embryo, you > >are the > >life, you are the destiny, and you are the fate. > Please come upon > >us as our > >Guru and bestow your blessings. > >Yes Baba has come upon us as our Guru.. > >Darkness to Light can be ignorance to Eternal > Bliss. We all have > >enjoyed > >how our Baba explains to us most difficult > philosophies in a such > >a simple > >manner with worldly examples and jokes. We can > discuss on this > >with plenty > >of examples for all our lives. Yes as an ideal Guru > - Baba leads > >us in the > >right Direction for simple Self-Satisfaction to > Salvation. > >Baba as God: > >I am one of those unfortunate mortals, who have not > experienced > >Baba as > >God. I am undergoing the stages of love of our > Baba. I have > >experienced > >Baba as Mother, Father and Guru and much More than > these mere > >words. Word > >as just words - if it is not backed by experience. > Like, when Adi > >Shankara > >has experienced " Nir Guna Bhraman " for him it is an > experience > >and for > >others they are just words. Similarly when Ramana > Maha Rishi > >asked " Who am > >I " for him it is an experience and for others these > are just > >words. > >Yes, our Baba has to be experienced and not > explained. > >It is not a must that all Samratchana member have > to start from > >Mother, > >followed by Father, Guru and finally realise Baba > as God. One > === message truncated === SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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