Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 All memebers may please note one thing. Any Hindu temple, mosque or church is based on some highly elevated spirits or samadis burried several hundred years back. There is no use os talking about those temples atpresent. They are past things and we dont know whether any eneregy is availalble in those temples. What we are concered about this family group is SANKARAM with whom we living which is the highest form of energy available on earth. Please discuss about SIVA SANKARAM, his speeches,idealogies concepts. Go through his laatest speeches in which beatiful lessons are burried and explained about the real truth about sprituality. Let us talk about spirits and not temples. Our moderator may please go through all mails and give his opinion about the above subject. Reiki Subramanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Sorry Mr. Subramanian, I have to disagree with you on this topic. I totally understand your concern about the topics discussed in this group. But, I still believe it is highly important to understand the history and importance of so many places (be it hindu temples, mosque, churches or spiritual places) to where we are unable to make our presence in person. So, those who are doing this wonderful job should be highly appreciated and encouraged to continue. First and foremost, family is big, i mean REALLY BIG (bigger than anyone think) and its appropriate to talk about everything including our experiences (be it visiting some place to meeting someone interesting). You never know whom/which can be your turning point in your future life.Second, if the only reason you are going to/talking about those holy places is to get energy, I think you missed the point. If that is the case, then one of the nayanmars (I forgot his name even though baba mentioned about him so many times in his speeches) who become nayanmar just by cleaning the siva temple and making it accessible to future generation like us. Otherwise, we wouldn't have known about so many powerful tempels on our earth especially in India (specifically in Tamil Nadu).Yeah, I agree we need to talk about baba. But BABA is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient. He is everything and eveywhere. So, I think it is nothing wrong to talk about those holy places in our group especially led by BABA whose motto is to recognize all religions/cultures and appreciate each and everyone's interest. By discussing about these temples, we are discussing about him, his presence and his story.I may be wrong in my comments, but I think we should not impede one's spiritual growth by sharing his knowledge with us especially about holy places. Please be kind if I made any mistake.Shankaram siva shankaram,thazhmaiyudan,Shankarkalamburs <kalamburs wrote: All memebers may please note one thing. Any Hindu temple, mosque or church is based on some highly elevated spirits or samadis burried several hundred years back. There is no use os talking about those temples atpresent. They are past things and we dont know whether any eneregy is availalble in those temples. What we are concered about this family group is SANKARAM with whom we living which is the highest form of energy available on earth. Please discuss about SIVA SANKARAM, his speeches,idealogies concepts. Go through his laatest speeches in which beatiful lessons are burried and explained about the real truth about sprituality. Let us talk about spirits and not temples. Our moderator may please go through all mails and give his opinion about the above subject. Reiki Subramanian You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Dear Uncle, Thanks for your email highlighting the fact that we all (Samratchanites) agree that SHANKARAM is our loving Lord. Having said that, our Babs encourages us to visit temples and other sacred/holy places. While keeping in mind that there are other members in this group who maybe inclined to know about these places, it would be prudent not to discourage any such emails. I view this Groups as a means to orient our discussions about Babs & Samratchana as a mainstream, while not curtailing any good & valuable (re)sources. Thanks, Ganesh. , " kalamburs " <kalamburs wrote: > > All memebers may please note one thing. Any Hindu temple, mosque or > church is based on some highly elevated spirits or samadis burried > several hundred years back. There is no use os talking about those > temples atpresent. They are past things and we dont know whether any > eneregy is availalble in those temples. What we are concered about this > family group is SANKARAM with whom we living which is the > highest form of energy available on earth. Please discuss about SIVA > SANKARAM, his speeches,idealogies concepts. Go through his laatest > speeches in which beatiful lessons are burried and explained about the > real truth about sprituality. Let us talk about spirits and not temples. > > Our moderator may please go through all mails and give his opinion > about the above subject. Reiki Subramanian > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Dear Samratchanites, Let me first start by telling what I understand by SANKARAM. I do agree with Respected Mr. Kalamburs that SANKARAM is the highest form of energy living in this earth and I am thankful for this defenition. However, I would like to focus it by saying that SANKARAM is the highest form of 'energy' on earth. Absolutely speaking, it is not a he or a she. It does not speak, present ideologies, and concepts. SANKARAM is the immutable supreme that animates each and every other atom not in this earth, but of this entire universe. If that is the case, where is there that is NOT SANKARAM? All temples are of course SANKARAM. Everywhere around in SANKARAM. The corporal frame that is going to attain a successful 60 years is in no way superior in our illusory imagination than all the massive temples that Mr. Kalamburs says has no energy. There are two options. One is to stick to the absolute point of view and talk nothing. There is nothing to be talked because everything around is SANKARAM for all to see, hear and listen. In that case, this group becomes unecessary. The other relative point of view is to speak about places and concepts where we relate SANKARAM to radiate very high energies. In that case, I do support and welcome all of the contributions of all the members who speak of spirituality, temples,... etc etc. If we were to speak about the spirit, indeed there is nothing to talk for that absolute spirit that we all are talking about has never talked before. It does not think because it lacks a mind. It is in supreme peace with itself, in eternal bliss and in constant meditation. I am a student and I am still learning. If any of the learned folks think I am wrong, do feel free to give me a knock on the head Shankaram Siva Shankaram! Raghu kalamburs <kalamburs Sent: Monday, 7 April 2008 8:19:36 irrelevant spiritual messages All memebers may please note one thing. Any Hindu temple, mosque or church is based on some highly elevated spirits or samadis burried several hundred years back. There is no use os talking about those temples atpresent. They are past things and we dont know whether any eneregy is availalble in those temples. What we are concered about this family group is SANKARAM with whom we living which is the highest form of energy available on earth. Please discuss about SIVA SANKARAM, his speeches,idealogies concepts. Go through his laatest speeches in which beatiful lessons are burried and explained about the real truth about sprituality. Let us talk about spirits and not temples.Our moderator may please go through all mails and give his opinion about the above subject. Reiki SubramanianSend instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Dear spiritual seekers, I am a passive member of this group. I am not a "devotee" of Baba is any stretch of the term , but have lots of love and respect for HIM for the spiritual height that HE is in. having said that , frankly am not sure, if i am a "member" of the group, as per the moderator's definition. Still, I was little disturbed by the strong views of one of us, paraphrased below. "All memebers may please note one thing. Any Hindu temple, mosque or church is based on some highly elevated spirits or samadis burried several hundred years back. There is no use os talking about those temples atpresent. They are past things and we dont know whether any eneregy is availalble in those temples. "Is there any praMANA or proof to this statement? Is this told is any scripture? Is this what Baba "seriously" thinks about temples? ( with his playful nature, HE can never be serious,thats aside!!!!!)Yes there are some shiva temples which are the adhishTAnams of siddhars etc. But are all temples like that? Will this view hold good for temples even like panchabhootha staalams( thiruvannamalai for example)? For one, I think this is a great vibrant group which has openness to discuss a lot, but I totally agree that any group should have a single focused purpose to ensure that every one is moved to that goal. I am a member of a few groups with illustrious spiritual seekers and have seen this single minded focus being driven by the moderator. So this groups' purpose, inspiration, and source is Baba. If so, then lets restrict the comments, discussions only on Baba and his path and let us not make generalised statements which might go against the knowledge, spiritual experience and sentiments of various other enlightened souls and practisioners (who at a spiritual level are so very connected to our Baba but need not be "samrakshanites".)May HE pardon my for my ignorance. aparaadha kshamaarpanamGopi for Good helps you make a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 shankaram shiva shankaram, Pranams to Babaji, Dear All, In my opinion, we should talk about Babaji and most importantly focus on what he says. I think just this will be enough for us. I mean that his sayings if we follow religiously and follow them to such an extent that they become our daily routine practices, I have full faith that we will prosper in all aspects be it world, house hold, spiritually or be it to a very small extent of positive thinking. On 4/8/08, Raghunandhan Gopalan <ragoo87 wrote: Dear Samratchanites, Let me first start by telling what I understand by SANKARAM. I do agree with Respected Mr. Kalamburs that SANKARAM is the highest form of energy living in this earth and I am thankful for this defenition. However, I would like to focus it by saying that SANKARAM is the highest form of 'energy' on earth. Absolutely speaking, it is not a he or a she. It does not speak, present ideologies, and concepts. SANKARAM is the immutable supreme that animates each and every other atom not in this earth, but of this entire universe. If that is the case, where is there that is NOT SANKARAM? All temples are of course SANKARAM. Everywhere around in SANKARAM. The corporal frame that is going to attain a successful 60 years is in no way superior in our illusory imagination than all the massive temples that Mr. Kalamburs says has no energy. There are two options. One is to stick to the absolute point of view and talk nothing. There is nothing to be talked because everything around is SANKARAM for all to see, hear and listen. In that case, this group becomes unecessary. The other relative point of view is to speak about places and concepts where we relate SANKARAM to radiate very high energies. In that case, I do support and welcome all of the contributions of all the members who speak of spirituality, temples,... etc etc. If we were to speak about the spirit, indeed there is nothing to talk for that absolute spirit that we all are talking about has never talked before. It does not think because it lacks a mind. It is in supreme peace with itself, in eternal bliss and in constant meditation. I am a student and I am still learning. If any of the learned folks think I am wrong, do feel free to give me a knock on the head Shankaram Siva Shankaram! Raghu kalamburs <kalamburs Sent: Monday, 7 April 2008 8:19:36 irrelevant spiritual messages All memebers may please note one thing. Any Hindu temple, mosque or church is based on some highly elevated spirits or samadis burried several hundred years back. There is no use os talking about those temples atpresent. They are past things and we dont know whether any eneregy is availalble in those temples. What we are concered about this family group is SANKARAM with whom we living which is the highest form of energy available on earth. Please discuss about SIVA SANKARAM, his speeches,idealogies concepts. Go through his laatest speeches in which beatiful lessons are burried and explained about the real truth about sprituality. Let us talk about spirits and not temples. Our moderator may please go through all mails and give his opinion about the above subject. Reiki SubramanianSend instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger. -- Urmilawife of Mr. Shashi KantPresidentKailash Mansarover Sewa Samiti (Regd)Office No. 3, C.S.C. Market,GH-4, Meera Apartments,Outer Ring Road, Paschim Vihar,New Delhi-110 063Ph : 011-25255715Mobile : 9811642604 website : www.kailashmansarover.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Dear children, There are infinite number of websites talking about all the temples and the holy places in this world and particularly in India. But this is the only site where we give informations about our beloved Baba. The World will surely understand about the Supreme God when everyone will talk about Him and His fame would have been spread around the world. Until then it is the duty of every Samratchanaite to spread His message and only His Message in this site. As Mr.Suresh Krishna rightly asked, are we talking about Him in other Groups where we are members? I myself am a member of another Group (ours is a very big family and we have a group of our own.) and I can't write anything about my LOVE SIVASHANKARAM because most of my family members don't know about Him and don't want to know about Him also. When the bitter truth is like this, why should we write about other temples in our Group? You are telling that everywhere HE is there and we can talk about anything. But my point is when He is everywhere why should we talk about all places? Isn't it enough if we talk about Ramarajya and PooranaBrahmam? If it is possible we should write about our temple in other sites also and make them understand about the Supreme God with whom we are living fortunately with HIS BLESSINGS. This is my humble opinion. With lots of love, Vidya Mami --- urmila kailashi <urmilakailash wrote: > shankaram shiva shankaram, > Pranams to Babaji, > Dear All, > In my opinion, we should talk about Babaji and most > importantly focus on > what he says. I think just this will be enough for > us. I mean that his > sayings if we follow religiously and follow them to > such an extent that they > become our daily routine practices, I have full > faith that we will prosper > in all aspects be it world, house hold, spiritually > or be it to a very small > extent of positive thinking. > > > On 4/8/08, Raghunandhan Gopalan > <ragoo87 wrote: > > > > Dear Samratchanites, > > > > Let me first start by telling what I understand by > SANKARAM. I do agree > > with Respected Mr. Kalamburs that SANKARAM is the > highest form of energy > > living in this earth and I am thankful for this > defenition. However, I would > > like to focus it by saying that SANKARAM is the > highest form of 'energy' on > > earth. Absolutely speaking, it is not a he or a > she. It does not speak, > > present ideologies, and concepts. SANKARAM is the > immutable supreme that > > animates each and every other atom not in this > earth, but of this entire > > universe. > > > > If that is the case, where is there that is NOT > SANKARAM? All temples are > > of course SANKARAM. Everywhere around in SANKARAM. > The corporal frame that > > is going to attain a successful 60 years is in no > way superior in our > > illusory imagination than all the massive temples > that Mr. Kalamburs says > > has no energy. > > > > There are two options. One is to stick to the > absolute point of view and > > talk nothing. There is nothing to be talked > because everything around is > > SANKARAM for all to see, hear and listen. In that > case, this group becomes > > unecessary. The other relative point of view is to > speak about places and > > concepts where we relate SANKARAM to radiate very > high energies. In that > > case, I do support and welcome all of the > contributions of all the members > > who speak of spirituality, temples,... etc etc. > > > > If we were to speak about the spirit, indeed there > is nothing to talk for > > that absolute spirit that we all are talking about > has never talked before. > > It does not think because it lacks a mind. It is > in supreme peace with > > itself, in eternal bliss and in constant > meditation. > > > > I am a student and I am still learning. If any of > the learned folks think > > I am wrong, do feel free to give me a knock on the > head > > > > Shankaram Siva Shankaram! > > Raghu > > > > > > > > kalamburs <kalamburs > > > > Monday, 7 April 2008 8:19:36 > > irrelevant spiritual > messages > > > > All memebers may please note one thing. Any Hindu > temple, mosque or > > church is based on some highly elevated spirits or > samadis burried > > several hundred years back. There is no use os > talking about those > > temples atpresent. They are past things and we > dont know whether any > > eneregy is availalble in those temples. What we > are concered about this > > family group is SANKARAM with whom we > living which is the > > highest form of energy available on earth. Please > discuss about SIVA > > SANKARAM, his speeches,idealogies concepts. Go > through his laatest > > speeches in which beatiful lessons are burried and > explained about the > > real truth about sprituality. Let us talk about > spirits and not temples. > > > > Our moderator may please go through all mails and > give his opinion > > about the above subject. Reiki Subramanian > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://asia.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > -- > Urmila > wife of > Mr. Shashi Kant > President > Kailash Mansarover Sewa Samiti (Regd) > Office No. 3, C.S.C. Market, > GH-4, Meera Apartments, > Outer Ring Road, Paschim Vihar, > New Delhi-110 063 > > Ph : 011-25255715 > Mobile : 9811642604 > website : www.kailashmansarover.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Hi: Samratchana is an universal family.. with a common love and common purpose, but this does not mean that we all share the same tastes in life. Even if we take the family we were born into, we have so many different perspectives and different tastes, hence I only think it is natural that in a place like , which is a mix of so many different people, we are bound to have different thoughts.. In my perspective, even in a family get together, we can not have everyone talking about the same thing all the time... I am sure there are smaller discussions going on about a multitude of topics... and this is healthy.. and in our family (), where our love to babs and perhaps, the spiritual progress of our soul are key points for us... any points which help us in these are welcome.. In fact, this was the reason why babs continues to support so many different activities.. some relevant to the above 2 points, and others not so at first thought to a common guy (sparrow brain.. in babs terminology) Samratchana has always been a platform where people can come and provide what ever kind of service they want. If one gentleman feels that by teaching german free of cost, they are doing their 2 bit for the cause, they have been welcomed.. similarly, if someone is diligently compiling a list of temples which can be useful to people, should it be a problem? This is the spirit of in the sense that we have been one of the most broad minded.. and I hope that continues.. Gopi to answer your Question.. There are many speeches, where babs alludes to such a theory.. where temples, mosques and churches are a store house of energy.. and in most cases a powerful siddha/saint/guru (or whatever) resides in spirit and looks to guide the masses... If you are keen to listen to more on such things, I am sure such a collection of speeches is available with us.. For me the key takeaways from babs is,.. " surrender to me, and I will take care.. " As I have to get back to doing some work.. I am signing off.. love, Badri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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