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Merry Meet,

My name is Raven .... I live in Charlotte,NC

medical; numbness in arms,legs,face,..pins and needlesin arms and

legs,dizzyness,

speech problems,hearing loss at times,pressure in ears,falling,draging

legs,balance gone,pain that goes from my head down my spine that feels like

for example like sticking your tounge on a d battery, ,repeated yeast

infectionsc,urinary problems,tremors,days i cant walk.fatigue,simple task

wear me out,trouble sleeping,not dx with ms yet..was hospitalized ran test

then was only nubness and tingling in legs and bad headaches,nothing showed

up but have gotten worse since I got out,valium helps the tremors,loratab

helps some with pain,effexor which Ive been on for a while takes care of the

deppression, was told this stuff was in my head I refuse to belive that cause

other people see my tremors and etc. even strangers have commented on

it...seen eye doctor who told me that he is sure I have ms and I just have to

wait till the lesions to show up before a doctor will dx me.says they are

afraid of malpractice..my mother has ms we suffer samethings

in this life I am a Libra, Iam taken heart n soul by a lovley womyn

my life: reading,womyns music, , honoring the Goddess, drawing down the

moon, being me,arts & culture,playing with my dogs:Tippy,Taylor and chasing

after kids;,Marissa,Justin and lovin my womyn; music;travel.. and giving my

cat Din all the space she needs

Fav qoutes: Due to financial constraints, the light at the end of the tunnel

has been extinguished.Mentally confused and prone to wandering;

Any choice is a limitation,for it eliminates other possiablities.

Unless we realize that what we do has an impact on others, we cannot truly be

free, for freedom is never the complete absence of restrictions but rather

the abilty to make the choices that will best serve our interests.

 

Blessed be,

Raven

[Guest guest]

Rainwmyn wrote:

>

> Rainwmyn

>

> Merry Meet,

> My name is Raven .... I live in Charlotte,NC

 

Hi Raven,

 

Your situation sounds very much like the symptoms of Fibromyalgia,

the sleep disorder that produces pain and tingling and weakness and

fatigue because you cannot reach the delta wave, tissue repair sleep.

 

If all the tests are negative for MS, you might want to see an arthritis

specialist which could diagnose Fibromyalgia with the ll out of the l8

tender points being the most common test.

 

Wishing you all the best. Fibromyalgia has been renamed " Abnormal

Neural Tension " by several bodyworkers because the pain tracts are full

of pain signal and they cannot clear well. There is management of

this disorder that requires a mind, body approach. Craniosacral therapy

and Myofascial Release are best since they don't cause pain---avoid

any painful therapies! And, meditation to quiet the mind is very

helpful. A good diet with lots of fruits and veggies and organic meats.

And......lots of rest, naps, meditation, sleep.

Your meds require the product " Ultraclear " from Metagenics to process

the phase two toxins so that you don't wake up in the middle of the

night with the heat of the Liver forcing its way up to the top of the

head.

 

This is all for now.

Leonor

 

P.S. none of these strategies will harm you even if you don't have

FMS.

[Guest guest]

Dear Caroline

 

What great training and experience you bring to this group... to people!

I'm so pleased to have found your group!

 

I started reading so many books this past year, including Caroline Myss,

Linda S. Leonard (Meeting the Madwoman), M.Woodman (The Pregnant Virgin,

etc.), and have read about 6 books the past two months for a gender

identity paper I'm doing for a womens' study class. I'm an older

returning student at the university... late 40's but I fit in just fine.

:>

 

I've been seeing a counselor for about eight months now. I started with

her a couple of months after losing my 19 year old son to suicide (he

was my middle child of five), and have continued for that reason and to

work on some trauma and abuse from my childhood. She reccomended Reiki

and other body work, and I met a woman, by " coincidence " while my

husband ( I was remarried in May of '98) and I were vacationing up north

in Michigan. I've had two sessions with her and they were tremendously

helpful in my healing and in my making choices regarding my deep emotions.

 

My husband is unbelievably supportive and encourages me in my searchings

and healings. He picked up N.Walsch's book " Conversations with God " in

the book store a few months ago; has read it and shared it with me. He

lived 18 years alone and raised both his kids after being married for a

few years, and has dealt with so much inner work that he is so

emotionally self sufficient... very unlike the needy people I've dealt

with all my life. Therefore, I have the foundation that I need to deal

with all that I am presently working on.

 

I'm not fond of the 'open intimates' but did want to introduce myself.

I'm a senior at the uni, majoring in Social-Psychology and Creative

Writing and have been lucky enough to recently have some poems published

by journals. My writing has been a life saver to me.

 

Looking forward to good discussions and sharing.

 

Jo

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/99 2:39:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!, feline4

writes:

 

<<

****Anyone who has NOT posted to the list AT LEAST ONCE, MUST introduce

themselves to either the LIST or ME.**** >>

 

 

Hi to Tracy and the group. Though I've posted since joining last week I

really didn't take the time to introduce myself. I'm a pretty green newbie

to aromatherapy - in fact, very green - green as grass. I'm teaching myself

about aromatherapy and making my own soap and toiletries. I bought an AT

blend at our local health food store that has warming properties and contains

EOs beneficial in treating neuropathic pain. I was a bit skeptical, not

expecting a lot of help, and was surprised. It has made a big difference in

my illness and the level of function I can achieve on a day to day basis.

Now I'm trying to learn all I can and am in the process of figuring out what

oils I need to start with. Suggestions for a basic " kit " anyone? Thanks for

all the wonderful info I've picked up so far.

 

Gently,

 

Pam

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/8/2000 6:07:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,

cherylrowe writes:

 

<< I have heard that a person should use a diffuser that doesn't require heat

to make it work but I don't know if that is true or not. >>

 

Hi Cheryl,

 

The best type of diffuser to use for therapeutic purposes is a nebulizer

(does not use heat). Aromalamps are fine if you're just trying to scent a

room, but if you're diffusing EOs for therapeutic purposes, a good nebulizer

is the way to go.

 

Regards,

Sasha

Naturally Reared German Wirehaired Pointers

GWPsNaturally

[Guest guest]

Dear Cheryl,

 

A great place for buying a nebulizer would be

http://www.amrita.net Amrita is great!

 

 

GWPsNaturally [GWPsNaturally]

Sunday, January 09, 2000 3:53 PM

 

[AX] Re: Intro

 

GWPsNaturally

 

In a message dated 1/8/2000 6:07:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,

cherylrowe writes:

 

<< I have heard that a person should use a diffuser that doesn't

require heat

to make it work but I don't know if that is true or not. >>

 

Hi Cheryl,

 

The best type of diffuser to use for therapeutic purposes is a

nebulizer

(does not use heat). Aromalamps are fine if you're just trying to

scent a

room, but if you're diffusing EOs for therapeutic purposes, a good

nebulizer

is the way to go.

 

Regards,

Sasha

Naturally Reared German Wirehaired Pointers

GWPsNaturally

 

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Hi Pat - welcome to the group - I certainly lurk most of the time - but post

when I have a question cos there are some real knowledgeable people in the

group.

 

I'm Bernadette and am from England.

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>>

 

Welcome Rachel,

 

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fabulous !

 

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Thanks Dianna!

 

I loved my oils from you too!

 

Glad to be here!

 

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Re: [AX] intro

 

 

> In a message dated 7/13/2000 7:03:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

> triplegoddess writes:

>

> << I am very glad to be here, and look forward to our exchanges!

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> Welcome Rachel,

>

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> fabulous !

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[Guest guest]

--- Tiny Santana and Chawn Scott

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> Hi All:

> This

> list sounds like a good place to learn how to

> incorporate them into

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Hi Angela

 

Welcome. I have Reiki one at the moment and so I have no idea what Chi Gung

is can you explain? What type of things do you write about?

 

Cheers for now

 

Moira du Toit

Jhb S.A.

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Me, me , ME!

Yes Please, I would like body care, tack soap, & sports rub.

 

Thanks,

Jamie

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" Heidi Scholes " <hscholes1

<herbal remedies >

Friday, February 02, 2001 2:51 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Intro

 

 

> Hi my name is Heidi Scholes and I just joined this list.

>

> I have nothing to trade at this time of year, but in the summer I have

many

> herbs, all organically grown, and I will be posting them as I have them.

>

> In the meantime I am looking for safe effective remedies for horses. If

you

> have any to share it would be most appreciated. I make a sports rub and an

> all natural tack soap, as well as human body care products. If anyone

would

> like the recipes for any of these let me know.

>

> Glad to find this list and look forward to getting to know some of you.

>

> Heidi Scholes

> Heidi's Herbals

>

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> ian_shillington

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi LeiAn

 

Nice to meet you! I'm in a similar situation to you - just joined the

group, long been interested in aromatherapy / alternative medicine, don't

know much about either (!), 31, married, no kids. I'm not planning on

becoming a professional aromatherapist, though, but would like to know more

about the oils and their applications for personal use. As I am a

biochemist (with an open mind) I would like to know more details about the

physiological and mood-enhancing effects of the oils, and also how to achieve

balanced blends of oils that still smell appealing! I think that with some

of the oils, less is more (eg ylang ylang?), but for therapeutic purposes,

how important is it to consider your likes and dislikes of the smells of

certain oils ie if a certain oil is perfect for a certain condition, but you

don't like that particular smell, should you include it in a blend?

 

Anyway I look forward to reading the posts to this group,

 

Asha

[Guest guest]

Hello, My name is Linda I live in Jacksonville, FL. I am new to

aromatherapy. I am studying Naturopathy. I am quite interested in the

subject and want to learn more about it. I am seeking a good school that will

be able to teach me the basics of it. I want to incorporate it into my

practice in Natural Medicine. I Richard did get married in Ipswich. What a

place. I lived in Felixstowe with my husband there. I then moved to Germany

and lived there for 10 years I now am back in my hometown in Jacksonville.

So I see there are a lot of familiarities here. I will be sitting and l

learning from you guys.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello from Chicago, Illinois, USA!

 

I am a Massage Therapist with a focus in Cranial Sacral Therapy,

Reflexology, and Vibrational Analysis. I would like to add Aromatherapy to

the mix.

 

Anyone in this group from the Chicagoland area?

 

Also, is anyone using oils and blends from Young Living? I'm looking for a

few companies in the states that produce Medicinal quality oils besides

Young Living. I want to compare their vibration quality.

 

 

Blessed Be,

 

Marcus J. Billadeau

 

" If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it. " - Albert

Einstein

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" Bekki Lyn " <bekki_lyn

 

Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:40 AM

[AX] Intro

 

 

> Hello. I have an interest in some of the subjects of this group so I

> signed up, though I don't really know what else to write at the

> moment due to lack of experience, so I would prefer to read and learn

> more first. I hope that will be okay. Nice to be here.

>

> Bekki Lyn

> http://www.geocities.com/bekki_lyn/index.html

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Folks,

 

Thank you, Crow, for your post. I did find an easier way to get

 

to the mini holistic videos. Just go to their site: vastvideo.com.

 

Also, yes, I did do a google search. Wow! There are a zillion sites

 

out there. Unfortunately the search engine didn't differentiate

 

between video and text. However, I do have a " robot voice speaker "

 

on my computer. So, for very long articles I can always switch and

 

have " Merlin " read it to me. Also, perhaps the local library has

 

some videos on these and relevant subjects.

 

Take care, all!

 

Dani

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie!

 

Although I have " just " started learning acupuncture I already know

that treatmeant varies from doctor to doctor. Some use very few

points (and thereby needles) while others use as many as you have

mentioned. What shouldn't differ though, should be the diagnosis, as

the principles practitioners of TCM learn are (or should be) the

same. Each and every practitioner of TCM with the right knowledge

should come to the same conclusion.

 

If your 1st and 2nd opinion differ, I'd consider a 3rd and if

necessary 4th opinion.

 

Best wishes

 

Harry

 

> I just joined the group and of course have tons of questions, but

let

> me tell you about my experiences with acupuncture. I have been

> seeing an acupuncturist for a year for allergies and endometriosis,

> and also for the infertility that comes with endo. I recently

> started feeling worse when my treatment course was changed and I

> started new herbs. When I went for a second opinion, I was told I

> was on too many herbs and too many needles. My acupuncturist had

me

> on 3 different formulas (stagnant liver chi, congealed blood, and

> kidney tonifying) and would do up to 25 needles at a time. The

more

> reading I do, the more unusual this sounds. It seems that a course

> of treatment of herbs usually is more like 3 months and only 6-8

> needles are done at a time. My 2nd opinion said my chi was

confused.

> I am thinking of taking a break, but I don't want to backslide, and

I

> don't think I want to continue with my current practitioner. I was

> hoping for some thoughts about my treatment and what I can expect

> from a different practitioner. I am willing to give more details

so

> that you can help me, so feel free to ask questions if I left stuff

> out. I am very anxious to get pregnant, and I have been doing

> everything right for so long, or so it seems, that I can't let the

> acupuncture make me feel worse at this point.

>

> Thanks!

> Debbie

[Guest guest]

Debbie

 

I have been into classical Chinese medeicine since 1985 and TCM more formally

since 1994. Chinese philosophy and TaiJQi studies/practice back to 1971.

 

Without the details of the history it would be hard to analyze your questions

or situation.

 

The highest level of Chinese medicine is 'to keep a tranquil mind' and

you'all seem NOT to be doing that. Learn that lesson first or your practice

will never be worthwhile.

 

Multiple formulas are usually seen in better trained and results oriented

practitioners. I individualize formulations totalling 20-35 herbs in one

capsule and change weekly or bi-weekly but that's because I get results. So

this business of one formula for 3 months is grossly incorrect with rare

exceptions. YOU must learn as a practitioner to ALWAYS change whether the

patient gets worse, stays the same, or gets better. Of course ALWASY based on

diagnostics.

 

Quantity of needles are in part a function of the practitioner's training and

not necessarily good or bad. Don't use that as a guide. I rarely use needles

anymore and can effect the same kind of changes through the use of other more

ancient and much more effective oriental bodywork techniques such as Ba Guan

and Gua Sha. Remember that although you are learning the basic healing art of

primarily using needles that use is NOT the whole or end-all of oriental

medicine. Actually it's more like only 20%. OM is like western medicine in

the sense that there exists an heirarchy of many modalities/therapies and

each one has a best condition to use and a not so efficient condition to use.

 

The treatments that vary by a single doctor or from doctor to doctor ALSO is

meaningless. The ONLY thing that is important is results.

 

Sounds to me that your first practitioner was more well rounded in their

training but tried to accomplish too much too quickly for you. If you want

another opinion - go back and tell that first practitioner that they were

doing well until that last change - unless there is something else you didn't

transmit.

 

And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't believe everything you read. There is so much

limited minded stuff that is written these days.

 

Read, study, learn and keep ad always keep an open mind but DON'T let these

difference drag you down.

 

Does this make you more confused? If so LEARN to think logically and have the

energy to apply such logical thinking - then THINK for yourself. How do you

do that you might ask? Actually take a logic course in a college or buy a

book on logic and LEARN IT. Then apply it.

 

Richard

 

Richard A. Freiberg, DOM, DAc, AP

Nationally Board Certified Diplomate - NCCAOM

Florida State Oriental Medical Association - Legislative Chair/Litigation

Committee

Florida Dept. of Elder Affairs/End-Of-Lifecare Panel

Broward County Medical Association - Alt/Med Committee

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 8/27/01 4:19:01 PM, oldh writes:

 

<< Hi Debbie!

 

Although I have " just " started learning acupuncture I already know

that treatmeant varies from doctor to doctor. Some use very few

points (and thereby needles) while others use as many as you have

mentioned. What shouldn't differ though, should be the diagnosis, as

the principles practitioners of TCM learn are (or should be) the

same. Each and every practitioner of TCM with the right knowledge

should come to the same conclusion.

 

If your 1st and 2nd opinion differ, I'd consider a 3rd and if

necessary 4th opinion.

 

Best wishes

 

Harry

 

> I just joined the group and of course have tons of questions, but

let

> me tell you about my experiences with acupuncture. I have been

> seeing an acupuncturist for a year for allergies and endometriosis,

> and also for the infertility that comes with endo. I recently

> started feeling worse when my treatment course was changed and I

> started new herbs. When I went for a second opinion, I was told I

> was on too many herbs and too many needles. My acupuncturist had

me

> on 3 different formulas (stagnant liver chi, congealed blood, and

> kidney tonifying) and would do up to 25 needles at a time. The

more

> reading I do, the more unusual this sounds. It seems that a course

> of treatment of herbs usually is more like 3 months and only 6-8

> needles are done at a time. My 2nd opinion said my chi was

confused.

> I am thinking of taking a break, but I don't want to backslide, and

I

> don't think I want to continue with my current practitioner. I was

> hoping for some thoughts about my treatment and what I can expect

> from a different practitioner. I am willing to give more details

so

> that you can help me, so feel free to ask questions if I left stuff

> out. I am very anxious to get pregnant, and I have been doing

> everything right for so long, or so it seems, that I can't let the

> acupuncture make me feel worse at this point.

>

> Thanks!

> Debbie >>

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Hi Bonnie

Welcome. I see you found the right place. LOL

Bonnie helped me out on an other list. I asked a question (just like I

do here) and I was put down terribly. Bonnie wrote a really nice letter to

the group and stood up for me. I left the group and I guess she did to.

I feel very comfortable here.

 

*~~*~~*~~ Linda in Florida ~~*~~*~~*

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Linda:

 

I was very happy to see you posting here. (((((Huggies)))))

 

Blessed Be,

Bonnie

 

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In a message dated 8/29/01 8:35:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

spiritseeker writes:

 

 

> I was very happy to see you posting here. (((((Huggies)))))

>

>

 

I smiled when I saw your name to.

I've learned alot from this list.

I've also enrolled in a Crystal Healing Class about 45 min

from my home. Can't wait.

 

*~~*~~*~~ Linda in Florida ~~*~~*~~*

The grass isn't greener on the other side...It's greener where you water it!

;o)

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In a message dated 8/30/01 7:05:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

brianberkeley writes:

 

 

> What was the other group called, Linda? I'd like to

> look at it once, and then forget about it.

>

>

 

No way. I don't kiss and tell. ;o)

 

*~~*~~*~~ Linda in Florida ~~*~~*~~*

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--- CLOXAHATCHEE wrote:

> Hi Bonnie

> Welcome. I see you found the right place. LOL

> Bonnie helped me out on an other list. I asked

> a question (just like I

> do here) and I was put down terribly. Bonnie wrote

> a really nice letter to

> the group and stood up for me. I left the group

> and I guess she did to.

> I feel very comfortable here.

 

What was the other group called, Linda? I'd like to

look at it once, and then forget about it.

 

Brian

 

 

 

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, " Melva Pearce " <candlemaker@k...>

wrote:

> Just a bit about me. I live in southern Kentucky, USA, with my dh and ds on

the family farm. I am very interested in various uses for essential oils. We

are trying to do lots of things around our house chemical-free(gardening,

cleaning, lawn maintenance), so I would definitely like what goes into our

bodies to be natural.

>

> Am looking forward to learning a lot

>

> Melva in KY

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome Rowen

 

 

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