Colon Cancer

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--- Sindea,

I would recommend AIM Barleygreen.

A good website for cancer alternatives:

http://www.drday.com

 

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" sindea.horste " <sindea.horste@v...> wrote:

> Just found out my sil in Oklahoma has colon cancer. I know they

would probably not want much advice in the way of natural ideas, but

could you all please send some my way? She is a wonderful person and

too young to have this going on. Thanks

> Sindea

> driving Geoff nuts since 1994...

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Try Johanna Budwig Protocol. There is a for this at FlaxSeedOil2- KristineJazziDJess wrote: My partner diagnosed. What herbal or alternative therapy is best I wonder?

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I have had cancer (ovary)--I used Essiac and Pa De Arco teas. No refined sugars, flour, MSG's, soda pop, cigs--total deter and flush system out with REAL spring water--not tap water--unless you are on your own well.

You can mix the two teas together if you wish. Combined 1 cup of tea aleast one hour before breakfast--same goes for lunch and another cup 2 hours after dinner-before you go to bed.

 

Essiac tea--do not use the tea bags-- to do it right -- use the method Renee Cassie used. It takes about 12-13 hours to make but it works. Camas Prairie Tea by Trout Lake Farms is mostly what I use. It is certified organic and it follows Renee's recipe to a te--.

Red Clover can be added also

Use only the highest quality of PaDeArco tea available.

 

By the way--my last visit to the doctor--4/17--they can not find anymore tumors!

 

Lynda

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JazziDJess

Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:03 AM

Colon Cancer

 

 

My partner diagnosed. What herbal or alternative therapy is best I wonder?

 

 

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Vitamin B17 - it's banned by the FDA but you can find it in apricot

kernels and other fruit seeds. Eat the seeds in fruit (apples, grapes,

watermelon, plum-need to crack those open and eat soft center,

blueberries, raspberries, etc.) and make sure to chew them up well.

B17 is also available from wheat grass supplements.

 

 

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wonder? </HTML>

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It is also in flax seed.... don't buy the flax oil or flax meal.... my understanding is that it goes rancid very quickly after it is ground..........buy the fresh whole seeds and grind them in a coffee grinder just prior to using.

 

 

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november.gale

Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:06 AM

Re: Colon Cancer

Vitamin B17 - it's banned by the FDA but you can find it in apricot kernels and other fruit seeds. Eat the seeds in fruit (apples, grapes, watermelon, plum-need to crack those open and eat soft center, blueberries, raspberries, etc.) and make sure to chew them up well. B17 is also available from wheat grass supplements. , JazziDJess wrote:>> My partner diagnosed. What herbal or alternative therapy is best I wonder? </HTML>>«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»Other like groups: MedicalConspiraciesSubscribe: MedicalConspiracies- Post message: MedicalConspiracies List owner: MedicalConspiracies-owner «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»1400 Member Group: MedicalConspiracies (One Word)at Google groups:http://groups.google.comMedicalConspiraciesPost message: MedicalConspiracies (AT) googl (DOT) comSubscribe: MedicalConspiracies- (AT) googl (DOT) com«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.**COPYRIGHT NOTICE**In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107,any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml

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I buy the flax meal and keep it in the freezer. I use it directly from the freezer and have not noted any problems. lynnAmy G Dalin <pparadise30701 wrote: It is also in flax seed.... don't buy the flax oil or flax meal.... my understanding is that it goes rancid very quickly after it is ground..........buy the fresh whole seeds and grind them in a coffee grinder just prior to using.

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You could buy "The Cyanide Cookbook" which includes recipes of all sorts of vegetable (legumes, fruits, etc.) that have b17 in them. That is available in a number of bookstores on the net.

 

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Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:06 AM

Re: Colon Cancer

 

 

Vitamin B17 - it's banned by the FDA but you can find it in apricot kernels and other fruit seeds. Eat the seeds in fruit (apples, grapes, watermelon, plum-need to crack those open and eat soft center, blueberries, raspberries, etc.) and make sure to chew them up well. B17 is also available from wheat grass supplements. , JazziDJess wrote:>> My partner diagnosed. What herbal or alternative therapy is best I wonder? </HTML>>

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A book on health written 100 years ago, called Hatha Yoga, can be read at http://dgwa1.fortunecity.com/body/hathayoga.html It is even more applicable today than it was then. It also contains a link to another book called psychic healing. I reckon that by applying what's in those two books, we can let the FDA and similar corrupt bodies do just what they like!!We should be able to heal ourselves and others from just about anything. Best regards DavidEd Siceloff <siceloff wrote: You could buy "The Cyanide Cookbook" which includes recipes of all sorts of vegetable (legumes, fruits, etc.) that have b17 in them. That is available in a number of bookstores on the net. ed - november.gale Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:06 AM Re: Colon Cancer Vitamin B17 - it's banned by the FDA but you can find it in apricot kernels and other fruit seeds. Eat the seeds in fruit (apples, grapes, watermelon, plum-need to crack those open and eat soft center, blueberries, raspberries, etc.) and make sure to chew them up well. B17 is also available from wheat grass supplements. , JazziDJess wrote:>> My partner diagnosed. What herbal or alternative therapy is best I wonder? </HTML>>

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In colon cancer drug study, more wasn't better

 

 

 

By STEPHANIE NANO, Associated Press Writer Stephanie Nano, Associated Press

Writer – 20 mins ago

 

 

 

 

 

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NEW YORK – Doctors thought that combining two newer drugs that more precisely

attack cancer would help people with advanced colon cancer. Instead, it made the

cancer worse and made the patients more miserable, a study found. The surprising

findings underscore the importance of doing rigorous studies before rushing to

mix these pricey, new-generation drugs, the Dutch researchers and other experts

said.

The doctors tried combining Erbitux and Avastin because lab tests and an earlier

small study had shown promising results.

" This will stand out as a warning, " said Dr. Cornelis Punt, the study's leader.

" You have to do the randomized studies to see what really happens. "

For the study, Eli Lilly & Co.'s Erbitux was added to standard treatment, which

includes Genentech Inc.'s Avastin. Since both are " targeted " drugs and attack

tumors in different ways, the thinking was that the combo would do a better job

of keeping the cancer from growing.

But the results show " more is not always better, " said Dr. Robert Mayer, of

Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston. He wrote an editorial published with the

study in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine.

What makes the results even more compelling, Mayer said, is that another similar

study reached the same conclusion. That study, released in December, tested

another targeted drug that works the same way as Erbitux.

" This is the first time we've seen harm by combining targeted therapies and it

tells us we need to be cautious, " said Dr. Jordan Berlin, a gastrointestinal

cancer specialist at Vanderbilt-Ingram Cancer Center in Nashville, Tenn.

Berlin, who had no role in the research, stressed that the drugs do help

patients, just not when given together.

Colorectal cancer is the nation's second leading cancer killer. The disease was

expected to kill almost 50,000 Americans last year although death rates are

dropping because of screening and better treatment.

The research was done at hospitals throughout the Netherlands and led by Punt at

Radboud University Nijmegen Medical Center. The 755 study patients had colon

cancer that had spread. They all received Avastin, also known as bevacizumab,

and two chemotherapy drugs. Half of them also got Erbitux, also called

cetuximab. They were followed for nearly two years.

The group that got Erbitux saw their cancer get worse sooner, the researchers

found. On average, their cancer progressed after 9.4 months compared to 10.7

months for those who didn't get Erbitux. The Erbitux group also had lower

quality-of-life scores.

The overall survival in both groups was about the same.

Punt said they are now trying to figure out why the combo didn't work; it could

be an interaction between these two specific drugs, Erbitux and Avastin.

After the study began in 2006, it was shown that Erbitux didn't help colon

cancer patients who had a specific gene mutation. The Dutch researchers said

their study confirmed that — the worst results were in those with the mutation

who got Erbitux.

Vanderbilt's Berlin said the results also show doctors need to be careful when

using drugs " off-label. " Drugs are approved for specific uses but doctors can

prescribe them for other purposes. Medicare has recently expanded its coverage

for such use of some cancer drugs, which can cost thousands a month.

Off-label use " needs to be cautious and this proves it, " said Berlin.

The study was supported by a network of Dutch researchers which receives grants

from a cancer foundation and drug companies. The two targeted drugs were

provided by the companies that market them in Europe. Several of the researchers

have consulted for cancer drug companies, as has the editorial writer and

Berlin.

 

 

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Chemo drugs are poisons, that is how they work. You never know what you are going to get when you combine two poisons, but the end result may well be be much more dangerous than the sum or it's parts.

I am reminded of the rodent study where they took the amount of aluminum that would normally result in the death of one out of 100 mice and combined it with the amount of mercury that would kill one out of 100 mice and found that the combination of the two killed 100 out of 100 mice.

Here is the scary part. Virtually ALL mainstream approved drugs are tested for safety soley by themselves. That means that if you combine any two, three or more prescribed or over the counter drugs you are taking something that has never been tested for safety. In effect you are a guinea pig who is gambling with your life.

The same could be said about supplements I suppose - except that most supplements are made of things found in nature and compatible with the human body. No doubt that is why, despite the lack of FDA trials and such, in any given year no more than a small handful of deaths around the world are attributed to supplements, whereas in the US alone over 106,000 deaths are attributed to reactions to properly prescribed and administered FDA approved medications.

"Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human bodies."- A. Saul, Contributing Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine

t the oleander soup , Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote:>> In colon cancer drug study, more wasn't better> > > > By STEPHANIE NANO, Associated Press Writer Stephanie Nano, Associated Press Writer – 20 mins ago> > > > > > Play Video Cancer Video: Dodgers Go To Bat For Cancer Patients CBS 2 / KCAL 9 Los Angeles > Play Video Cancer Video: Doctors Remove Tumor From Haitian Boy's Arm WJZ 13 Baltimore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NEW YORK – Doctors thought that combining two newer drugs that more precisely attack cancer would help people with advanced colon cancer. Instead, it made the cancer worse and made the patients more miserable, a study found. The surprising findings underscore the importance of doing rigorous studies before rushing to mix these pricey, new-generation drugs, the Dutch researchers and other experts said.> The doctors tried combining Erbitux and Avastin because lab tests and an earlier small study had shown promising results.> "This will stand out as a warning," said Dr. Cornelis Punt, the study's leader. "You have to do the randomized studies to see what really happens."> For the study, Eli Lilly & Co.'s Erbitux was added to standard treatment, which includes Genentech Inc.'s Avastin. Since both are "targeted" drugs and attack tumors in different ways, the thinking was that the combo would do a better job of keeping the cancer from growing.> But the results show "more is not always better," said Dr. Robert Mayer, of Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston. He wrote an editorial published with the study in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine.> What makes the results even more compelling, Mayer said, is that another similar study reached the same conclusion. That study, released in December, tested another targeted drug that works the same way as Erbitux.> "This is the first time we've seen harm by combining targeted therapies and it tells us we need to be cautious," said Dr. Jordan Berlin, a gastrointestinal cancer specialist at Vanderbilt-Ingram Cancer Center in Nashville, Tenn.> Berlin, who had no role in the research, stressed that the drugs do help patients, just not when given together.> Colorectal cancer is the nation's second leading cancer killer. The disease was expected to kill almost 50,000 Americans last year although death rates are dropping because of screening and better treatment.> The research was done at hospitals throughout the Netherlands and led by Punt at Radboud University Nijmegen Medical Center. The 755 study patients had colon cancer that had spread. They all received Avastin, also known as bevacizumab, and two chemotherapy drugs. Half of them also got Erbitux, also called cetuximab. They were followed for nearly two years.> The group that got Erbitux saw their cancer get worse sooner, the researchers found. On average, their cancer progressed after 9.4 months compared to 10.7 months for those who didn't get Erbitux. The Erbitux group also had lower quality-of-life scores.> The overall survival in both groups was about the same.> Punt said they are now trying to figure out why the combo didn't work; it could be an interaction between these two specific drugs, Erbitux and Avastin.> After the study began in 2006, it was shown that Erbitux didn't help colon cancer patients who had a specific gene mutation. The Dutch researchers said their study confirmed that — the worst results were in those with the mutation who got Erbitux.> Vanderbilt's Berlin said the results also show doctors need to be careful when using drugs "off-label." Drugs are approved for specific uses but doctors can prescribe them for other purposes. Medicare has recently expanded its coverage for such use of some cancer drugs, which can cost thousands a month.> Off-label use "needs to be cautious and this proves it," said Berlin.> The study was supported by a network of Dutch researchers which receives grants from a cancer foundation and drug companies. The two targeted drugs were provided by the companies that market them in Europe. Several of the researchers have consulted for cancer drug companies, as has the editorial writer and Berlin.>