Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 I only use Extra Virgin Olive Oil in my fresh ground honey wheat bread. It's terrific give it a try. Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Kristina, I think sunflower oil is a healhty one, it has a light texture and does not have any smell if this is your concern.. in my country, we use it all the time besides olive oil. How about soy oil, is it a good one?? Gamze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Gamze, Thank you for your reply. Do you bake with the sunflower oil? Does it withstand the heat, for instance with bread where oven would be around 325-350*? I'm not sure about soy oil either-will have to look into that one! Thank you! Kristina gdtc wrote: Kristina, I think sunflower oil is a healhty one, it has a light texture and does not have any smell if this is your concern.. in my country, we use it all the time besides olive oil. How about soy oil, is it a good one?? Gamze Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 Both Organic Sunflower and Safflower Oil are excellent. Unless the Soy Oil was CERTIFIED ORGANIC I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. 85% of all soy products on the market are now GE and dangerous to health. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - gdtc herbal remedies Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:02 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Canola oil Kristina,I think sunflower oil is a healhty one, it has a light texture and does not have any smell if this is your concern.. in my country, we use it all the time besides olive oil.How about soy oil, is it a good one??GamzeFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 Ever since I had a long talk with one of the chemists at Protein Tech (owned by Dupont) and found out that they use the same machines to process the GMO soy as they do the Organic Soy, I've stayed away from all Soy products. IMHO it just isn't worth the risk. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Kristina Kahney herbal remedies Tuesday, March 20, 2001 11:08 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Canola oil Gamze, Thank you for your reply. Do you bake with the sunflower oil? Does it withstand the heat, for instance with bread where oven would be around 325-350*? I'm not sure about soy oil either-will have to look into that one! Thank you! Kristina gdtc wrote: Kristina, I think sunflower oil is a healhty one, it has a light texture and does not have any smell if this is your concern.. in my country, we use it all the time besides olive oil. How about soy oil, is it a good one?? Gamze Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2001 Report Share Posted November 21, 2001 " FDA is proposing to allow an edible oil extracted from rapeseed to be called canola oil. The proposal, published in the Federal Register on Sept. 16, would recognize canola oil as an alternate common or usual name for low erucic acid rapeseed oil (LEAR oil), as it is identified in the United States. " An enlightening post by Kathy; May I add that I seem to recall that Canola is in status: " Allowed " . There is a food staus " Approved " ; Last time I looked Canola has not beeen granted approved staus. Lorenzo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.298 / Virus Database: 161 - Release 11/13/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2001 Report Share Posted November 21, 2001 In a message dated 01/21/11 1:59:29 AM, lorenzo1 writes: << There is a food staus " Approved " ; Last time I looked Canola has not beeen granted approved staus. >> Genetically engineered seeds for our produce has also been approved and millons of people are eating it in the U. S , as well Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 jonnyfive wrote: jonnyfive To: Canola Oil Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:27:32 -0500 CANOLA OIL - Deadly for the Human Body! Ride the Wave of Health! Beware of Canola Oil, Canola Oil is an Industrial Oil, Not Fit For Human Consumption. S U M M A R YBefore you read the following article, here is a summary of a few facts regarding Canola Oil: It is genetically engineered rapeseed. Canada paid the FDA the sum of $50 million to have rape seed registered and recognized as " safe " . (Source: Young Again and others) Rapeseed is a lubricating oil used by small industry. It has never been meant for human consumption. It is derived from the mustard family and is considered a toxic and poisonous weed, which when processed, becomes rancid very quickly. It has been shown to cause lung cancer (Wall Street Journal: 6/7/95) It is very inexpensive to grow and harvest. Insects won't eat it. Some typical and possible side effects include loss of vision, disruption of the central nervous system, respiratory illness, anemia, constipation, increased incidence of heart disease and cancer, low birth weights in infants and irritability. Generally rapeseed has a cumulative effect, taking almost 10 years before symptoms begin to manifest. It has a tendency to inhibit proper metabolism of foods and prohibits normal enzyme function. Canola is a Trans Fatty Acid, which has shown to have a direct link to cancer. These Trans Fatty acids are labeled as hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils. Avoid all of them! According to John Thomas' book, Young Again, 12 years ago in England and Europe, rape seed was fed to cows, pigs and sheep who later went blind and began attacking people. There were no further attacks after the rape seed was eliminated from their diet. Source: David Dancu, N.D. By Jim Lynn, Essential Oils It's amazing to me...The more research I do, the more I see a relationship between the food we eat and fatal diseases. Canola oil is no exception. Readers of EOO are familiar with the meat industry practice of feeding rendered meat " by-products " to cattle and poultry (EOO #015), and the suspected relationship of Mad Cow Disease to CJD and Alzheimer's Disease (EOO #016). Now comes information that Canola Oil is the suspected causative agent for Scrapie, a viral disease transmitted to cattle who were fed rendered sheep infected with Scrapie. Both Scrapie and Mad Cow Disease destroy the brain's ability to function. They literally eat the brain away, causing blindness, loss of mind and erratic behavior. Canola oil's real name is " LEAR " oil (Low Erucic Acid Rape). it is more commonly known as " rape oil, " a semi-drying oil that is used as a lubricant, fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base, and as an illuminant to give color pages in magazines their slick look. In short it is an industrial oil that does not belong in the human body. It is typically referred to in light industry as a penetrating oil. Back in the 1980's, rape oil was widely used in animal feeds in England and throughout Europe. It was banned in 1991. Since then, Scrapie in sheep has totally disappeared. While that's good for Europeans, it is bad for Americans because the problem is now ours. Rape seed oil (Canola oil) is widely used in thousands of processed foods...with the blessings of our own government. Canola oil was first developed in Canada. It's proponents claim that due to genetic engineering and irradiation, it is no longer rape oil, but " canola " (Canadian oil). They also claim it is completely safe, pointing to it's unsaturated structure and digestibility. Although, I could not verify it, it is claimed the Canadian government paid the FDA the sum of $50 million dollars to have canola oil placed on the GRAS list (Generally Recognized As Safe). However it was done, a new industry was created. The truth is however, that rape is the most toxic of all food oil plants. Not even insects will eat it. No wonder farmers like growing it. It turns out that rape is a member of the mustard family of plants, and is the source for the chemical agent, mustard gas, which causes blistering on skin and lungs when inhaled. Mustard Gas was banned after WWI for this very reason. Studies of canola oil done on rats indicate many problems. Rats developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals and thyroid gland. When the canola oil was withdrawn from their diet, the deposits dissolved, but scar tissue remained on the organs. Why were no studies done on humans before the FDA placed it on the GRAS list? Consumed in food, Canola oil depresses the immune system, causing it to " go to sleep. " Canola oil is high in glycosides which cause health problems by blocking (inhibiting) enzyme function. it's effects are accumulative, taking years to show up. One possible effect of long term use is the destruction of the protective coating surrounding nerves called the mylin sheath. When this protective sheath is gone, our nerves short-circuit causing erratic, uncontrollable movements. To test the industrial penetrating strength of canola oil, soak a towel in both canola oil and regular vegetable oil. Pre-treat and wash the towel in your clothes washer and compare the area the two oils occupied...you will notice an oil stain remains on the area soaked in canola oil. It is so durable, it could take several washings to completely remove. Now if this is how canola oil penetrates the fabric of a towel, what damage can it do in your body? Because canola oil is so cheap, it is now widely used in the food industry. If you are curious, just read a few food labels the next time you are in the grocery store. A good example can be found with commercially prepared peanut butter. In order to give peanut butter it's spreadability, Jiffy, Peter Pan and Skippy brands remove ALL of the natural peanut oil and replace it with canola oil. Natural peanut butter should only have peanuts and salt listed in the ingredients. If you want to use natural peanut butter, it's available in most stores next to the canola peanut butter. Stir the contents to mix the oil and peanuts together then store in the refrigerator. The cold temperature will prevent the peanut oil from separating. Best of all, you will have eliminated at least one source of a potential food hazard. Food consumers have headaches enough, without worrying about a toxic plant oil being added to their food. The problem is you will find canola oil in bread, margarines, and all manner of processed foods including potato chips. But the consumer is king. Be informed and make it a practice to read the package ingredients label as to what is in the food. Avoid using canola as a cooking oil and salad oil. It is not a healthy oil. It'll work great for lubricating mechanical items. OUR RECOMMENDATIONS: Pure Olive oil only. Safflower and Sunflower oils are OK, but they contain Omega 6 which is not a good option for the heart or the mylin sheaths. We automatically reject any foods, packaged or otherwise, which have in the label " ...may contain vegetable oil, cottonseed, canola oil.. " And if the label just says vegetable oil, we reject it outright since it does not specify which oil. Go here for an eye opening article of one parent and some of the effects of using Canola oil. We strongly suggest you go to the following web site for more on this subject: http://www.dldewey.com/hydroil.htm. This is an extensive web site with tons of research on the subject. Resources: One has to be careful of the amount of information being put out about canola oil, much which we consider disinformation and only related to making money be people. Again, keep an open mind and then you will not miss anything. http://www.1999.com/canola/http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158/UPDATE.HTM,P\ erceptions, Aug/Sep 96 issue, The Great Canola Debate Perceptions, Nov/Dec 95 issue, The Devil's Bargain Book, Fats That Heal and Fats That Kill, by Udo Erasmus, Another view, Another view, And another view, Another view, and yet another view. Main Karinya Directory| Did You Know Directory|Alternative Medicine Directory Organic Farming Quotable Quotes= " A nation that destroys its soils destroys itself " -----*Franklin D. Roosevelt* " Food is power... are you in control of yours? 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Guest guest Posted February 4, 2002 Report Share Posted February 4, 2002 CancerAnswer, JoAnn Guest <joguest@m...> wrote: Canola Oil Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:27:32 -0500 CANOLA OIL - Deadly for the Human Body! Ride the Wave of Health! Beware of Canola Oil, Canola Oil is an Industrial Oil, Not Fit For Human Consumption. Before you read the following article, here is a summary of a few facts regarding Canola Oil: It is genetically engineered rapeseed. Canada paid the FDA the sum of $50 million to have rape seed registered and recognized as " safe " . (Source: Young Again and others) Rapeseed is a lubricating oil used by small industry. It has never been meant for human consumption. It is derived from the mustard family and is considered a toxic and poisonous weed, which when processed, becomes rancid very quickly. It has been shown to cause lung cancer (Wall Street Journal: 6/7/95) It is very inexpensive to grow and harvest. Insects won't eat it. Some typical and possible side effects include loss of vision, disruption of the central nervous system, respiratory illness, anemia, constipation, increased incidence of heart disease and cancer, low birth weights in infants and irritability. Generally rapeseed has a cumulative effect, taking almost 10 years before symptoms begin to manifest. It has a tendency to inhibit proper metabolism of foods and prohibits normal enzyme function. Canola is a Trans Fatty Acid, which has shown to have a direct link to cancer. These Trans Fatty acids are labeled as hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils. Avoid all of them! According to John Thomas' book, Young Again, 12 years ago in England and Europe, rape seed was fed to cows, pigs and sheep who later went blind and began attacking people. There were no further attacks after the rape seed was eliminated from their diet. Source: David Dancu, N.D. By Jim Lynn, Essential Oils It's amazing to me...The more research I do, the more I see a relationship between the food we eat and fatal diseases. Canola oil is no exception. Readers of EOO are familiar with the meat industry practice of feeding rendered meat " by-products " to cattle and poultry (EOO #015), and the suspected relationship of Mad Cow Disease to CJD and Alzheimer's Disease (EOO #016). Now comes information that Canola Oil is the suspected causative agent for Scrapie, a viral disease transmitted to cattle who were fed rendered sheep infected with Scrapie. Both Scrapie and Mad Cow Disease destroy the brain's ability to function. They literally eat the brain away, causing blindness, loss of mind and erratic behavior. Canola oil's real name is " LEAR " oil (Low Erucic Acid Rape). it is more commonly known as " rape oil, " a semi-drying oil that is used as a lubricant, fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base, and as an illuminant to give color pages in magazines their slick look. In short it is an industrial oil that does not belong in the human body. It is typically referred to in light industry as a penetrating oil. Back in the 1980's, rape oil was widely used in animal feeds in England and throughout Europe. It was banned in 1991. Since then, Scrapie in sheep has totally disappeared. While that's good for Europeans, it is bad for Americans because the problem is now ours. Rape seed oil (Canola oil) is widely used in thousands of processed foods...with the blessings of our own government. Canola oil was first developed in Canada. It's proponents claim that due to genetic engineering and irradiation, it is no longer rape oil, but " canola " (Canadian oil). They also claim it is completely safe, pointing to it's unsaturated structure and digestibility. Although, I could not verify it, it is claimed the Canadian government paid the FDA the sum of $50 million dollars to have canola oil placed on the GRAS list (Generally Recognized As Safe). However it was done, a new industry was created. The truth is however, that rape is the most toxic of all food oil plants. Not even insects will eat it. No wonder farmers like growing it. It turns out that rape is a member of the mustard family of plants, and is the source for the chemical agent, mustard gas, which causes blistering on skin and lungs when inhaled. Mustard Gas was banned after WWI for this very reason. Studies of canola oil done on rats indicate many problems. Rats developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals and thyroid gland. When the canola oil was withdrawn from their diet, the deposits dissolved, but scar tissue remained on the organs. Why were no studies done on humans before the FDA placed it on the GRAS list? Consumed in food, Canola oil depresses the immune system, causing it to " go to sleep. " Canola oil is high in glycosides which cause health problems by blocking (inhibiting) enzyme function. it's effects are accumulative, taking years to show up. One possible effect of long term use is the destruction of the protective coating surrounding nerves called the mylin sheath. When this protective sheath is gone, our nerves short-circuit causing erratic, uncontrollable movements. To test the industrial penetrating strength of canola oil, soak a towel in both canola oil and regular vegetable oil. Pre-treat and wash the towel in your clothes washer and compare the area the two oils occupied...you will notice an oil stain remains on the area soaked in canola oil. It is so durable, it could take several washings to completely remove. Now if this is how canola oil penetrates the fabric of a towel, what damage can it do in your body? Because canola oil is so cheap, it is now widely used in the food industry. If you are curious, just read a few food labels the next time you are in the grocery store. A good example can be found with commercially prepared peanut butter. In order to give peanut butter it's spreadability, Jiffy, Peter Pan and Skippy brands remove ALL of the natural peanut oil and replace it with canola oil. Natural peanut butter should only have peanuts and salt listed in the ingredients. If you want to use natural peanut butter, it's available in most stores next to the canola peanut butter. Stir the contents to mix the oil and peanuts together then store in the refrigerator. The cold temperature will prevent the peanut oil from separating. Best of all, you will have eliminated at least one source of a potential food hazard. Food consumers have headaches enough, without worrying about a toxic plant oil being added to their food. The problem is you will find canola oil in bread, margarines, and all manner of processed foods including potato chips. But the consumer is king. Be informed and make it a practice to read the package ingredients label as to what is in the food. Avoid using canola as a cooking oil and salad oil. It is not a healthy oil. It'll work great for lubricating mechanical items. OUR RECOMMENDATIONS: Pure Olive oil only. Safflower and Sunflower oils are OK, but they contain Omega 6 which is not a good option for the heart or the mylin sheaths. We automatically reject any foods, packaged or otherwise, which have in the label " ...may contain vegetable oil, cottonseed, canola oil.. " And if the label just says vegetable oil, we reject it outright since it does not specify which oil. Go here for an eye opening article of one parent and some of the effects of using Canola oil. We strongly suggest you go to the following web site for more on this subject: http://www.dldewey.com/hydroil.htm. This is an extensive web site with tons of research on the subject. Resources: One has to be careful of the amount of information being put out about canola oil, much which we consider disinformation and only related to making money be people. Again, keep an open mind and then you will not miss anything. http://www.1999.com/canola/http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158/UP DATE.HTM,Perceptions, Aug/Sep 96 issue, The Great Canola Debate Perceptions, Nov/Dec 95 issue, The Devil's Bargain Book, Fats That Heal and Fats That Kill, by Udo Erasmus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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