My intro...

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Momto7kidlets <Momto7kidlets

 

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:55 PM

Re: My intro...

 

 

..>> I have never had my hormones checked - how would I get that done? Just

ask my doctor?>>

 

## Michelle, I've always heard the best and most accurate way was having a

saliva test done. Sorry, I don't know where. I've seen people on different

lists write in where you can have it done. Maybe somebody is reading and

will post it. If nobody responds to this, I'll check around and see what I

can come up with for you. The blood work the doctor does to check the

hormones doesn't always show if there is a problem.

>

> Also you are very right - this whole thing is hard on my husband. He

knows he screwed up big time and he sees me suffering which makes him sad

too. Believe me there have been many nights that we both just hold each

other crying. Me for the pain I feel and him for the pain he caused me. I

guess I am just one of those people that believes everyone can make mistakes

(very big one in this case) but that doesn't make them a bad person. I

believe in giving a person a second chance, but never a third ) >

 

## I've seen people who are just real dogs and will never change. I've also

seen both men and women who have simply made some serious mistakes that they

genuinely regret. The important thing is for you to take care of youself,

then you will be in a better condition to make whatever decision necessary

for your family.

 

Take care, dear.

 

Gail

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--- Momto7kidlets wrote:

I am struggling

> with depression and

> am desperately looking for some help.

I

> don't believe that because raising seven children

> alone would be

> hard, I love him, he really does love me, but

> screwed up, etc.

 

How wise of you to realize that one mistake shouldn't

be a death sentence to a family.

>

> I was told by someone that taking a combination of

> Vitamin B Complex,

> 5HTP and a multivitamin with antioxidants can help?

 

> Also are there any other suggestions for depression?

> I am on a quest

> to fix myself since the medical community is failing

> me.

>

I would try to cut back or even eliminate all sugar

and white flour ( " Sugar Blues " by William Dufty is an

excellent read.)

 

Also, how is your thyroid? If you lack zest and

energy, feel depressed, it could be your thyroid gland

 

that's underactive. Other common symptoms of

hypothyroidism include painful and excessive menstrual

periods, nervousness, unexplained weight gain, low

sexual desire, memory loss, dry and scaly skin, and

sleeplessness. Hypothyroidism occurs in one out of

eight women by the age of fifty. If do have

hypothyroidism, avoid oral contraceptives and

tranquilizers, as they deplete thyroid function.

 

Pam

 

 

 

 

 

 

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<Momto7kidlets

 

Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:31 AM

My intro...

 

 

> Hello everyone - I am hoping that someone here can help me as the

> medical community is failing me. I am struggling with depression and

> am desperately looking for some help. My depression started about 14

> months ago when I found out my husband was having a long term

> affair.

 

Sorry to hear that :-((

 

> At that time I was 2 months pregnant with our seventh child

> and his affair continued until the two year marker (enough on that -

> just thought you might need the info on why I am depressed). Anyhow,

> at that time my doctor put me on Celexa.

 

Celexa is the brand name for Citalopram, an SSRI (Selective Serotonin Reuptake

Inhibitor). SSRIs work by raising or

restoring serotonin levels and relieving depression.

 

However what is not sometimes realized is that Serotonin and the sister hormone

SamE are precursors for Melatonin

production and the timing of the rising and dropping of these hormones can

effect the night time operation of Melatonin

and hence sleep.

 

Therefore ANY SSRI / 5HTP should be taken early AM (to get SamE and Serotonin

moving upward with the sun) and not taken

late night as you will upset the normal rising and falling pttern of Serotonin,

SamE and Melatonin (in the morning

Serotonin and SamE go up while Melatonin goes down, then at night when Serotonin

and SamE go down, Melatonin goes up).

 

> I was told by someone that taking a combination of Vitamin B Complex,

> 5HTP and a multivitamin with antioxidants can help? Anyone know if

> it works and if I can take these while nursing? Also has anyone

> taken Ginseng while nursing? Is that safe?

 

Some B group Vits help to elevate SamE and 5HTP is one of the raw materials to

make Serotonin.

 

My daughter suffered from depression through Uni and I successfully used the

following combinations.

 

1) Elimination of Omega 6 linoleic acid (LA) oils based products.

 

2) 4 standard fish oil capsules a day (2 with lunch & 2 with dinner, 1.2 g total

EPA + DHA). Both elevated Omega 6 and

reduced Omega 3 have been shown to be highly involved in depression.

 

3) 1,000 ug folic acid, 500 ug B12, 100 mg trimethylglycine (TMG) and 50 mg Vit

B6 in the morning. (Lowers Homocysteine

and boost SamE)

 

4) 3 mg Melatonin just before lights out. Try to take Melatonin the same time

every night. (Boosts Melatonin)

 

5) Equivalent to 2 g dried herb, Saint Johns Wart in the morning. (Natural mild

SSRI)

 

6) 50 mg 5HTP in the morning (Mild Serotonin booster)

 

7) 2 g powered Glutamine in water before breakfast, lunch and dinner (Boosts

neuron to neuron efficiency)

 

8) Lots of TLC (Tender Loving Care)

 

This is a low dose, multi protocol approach which worked for my daughter.

Boosting SamE has additional benefits as the

way this is done also lowers Homocysteine, a real bad guy for circulatory

disease.

 

Good luck,

Greg

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Hi Michelle!

 

--- califpacific wrote:

> Please think twice and educate yourself about any of

> these

> psychotropic medications before taking any. They can

> damage your

> health, your mind and your relationships or kill

> you.

 

Yes, psychotropic drugs are extremely neuron-toxic and

should be avoided.

 

Pam

 

 

 

 

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Dear Michelle,

Check out the Truehope website (www.truehope.com) regarding vitamin

supplementation and depression. Their supplement E.M. Power is having amazing

results with people suffering depression. It is strictly vitamins and minerals.

Take care.

Anna

 

 

Momto7kidlets [sMTP:Momto7kidlets]

Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:01 AM

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My intro...

 

Hello everyone - I am hoping that someone here can help me as the

medical community is failing me. I am struggling with depression and

am desperately looking for some help. My depression started about 14

months ago when I found out my husband was having a long term

affair. At that time I was 2 months pregnant with our seventh child

and his affair continued until the two year marker (enough on that -

just thought you might need the info on why I am depressed). Anyhow,

at that time my doctor put me on Celexa. It made me tired all the

time and I worried about what it might do to my baby, so I went off

it. I suffered through my entire pregnancy and at times the

depression got so bad. After I had my daughter a combination of hurt

feelings and I believe post partum depression set in even more. My

doctor again put me on Celexa and this time after a few weeks I was

still feeling horrible, so he increased the dosage. The feelings got

worse instead of better and I didn't really even realize how bad they

had gotten. My husband and mother convinced me to stop the drugs

cold turkey because they realized how much I was talking

about " ending it all. " I didn't realize I was that bad. Anyhow, I

have been off of the medication for several months now and I am still

depressed. It is not terribly bad, but enough to want to do

something about it. I am sick of feeling this way and want to get

back to be ing a happy person. My doctor won't help me because he

feels I should just get rid of my husband and life would be great. I

don't believe that because raising seven children alone would be

hard, I love him, he really does love me, but screwed up, etc.

 

I was told by someone that taking a combination of Vitamin B Complex,

5HTP and a multivitamin with antioxidants can help? Anyone know if

it works and if I can take these while nursing? Also has anyone

taken Ginseng while nursing? Is that safe?

 

Also are there any other suggestions for depression? I am on a quest

to fix myself since the medical community is failing me.

 

Thank you,

 

Michelle

 

 

 

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In a message dated 21/11/01 23:34:27 GMT Standard Time,

Momto7kidlets writes:

 

I do not know about the other vitamins that have been suggested to you but I

know that either Kava Kava or St John's Wort are both very good for

depression. I think you should quite rightly change your gp, what an

arrogant pig to even hint that you should get rid of your husband - obviously

he has never found true love. I pray that everything works out well for all

9 of you.

 

Marianne

 

> My regular doctor won't because he says I should just get rid of my husband

> and my ob/gyn won't because she said she doesn't want to interfere with

> what my regular doctor feels is right. I will be looking for a new doctor,

>