Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 In a message dated 6/1/02 18:32:40 GMT Standard Time, wayne writes: If your arteries were significantly clogged you would have symtoms, i.e breathlessness with slight exersion. I would not recommend having cream every day, that is a sure recipe for clogged arteries - do you by chance have fatty lumps around the eyes that were not there before? There is also another sign which is on the ears but you will need Anne to tell you about that one, I really cannot get to grips with it. Marianne > > > Possibly my arteries are clogged already. It there any simple way to > tell, like maybe a biopsy of some artery tissue? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 In a message dated 6/1/02 18:32:40 GMT Standard Time, wayne writes: Thank you for all this wonderful information, I will check it out later and see just what I have been missing!! > I have looked at the USDA analysis of Whipping Cream. It contains a > large variety of nutrients. If you want to see the items, without the > search and menu steps, > here it is..... http://www.fugitt.com/trailmix/cream.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Evening Marianne, > >>I don't like the taste and never have eaten it so have not really > studied it. It is a good thing our taste buds are different, else there would be a shortage of cream, peanuts, and lots of other good foods. Possibly we should all quit trying to convince the world to eat right. One day we will not be able to obtain the foods we want and must have to survive. >> I take it from your post that cream is in fact a saturated fat!! As I said, Surely you don't want to condemn all saturated fats. If so, we must ban many foods that can contribute to health and well being. Back to the taste of cream, ( I suppose you are taking about whipping cream or cream from milk ) At times I add whipping cream to scrambled eggs. When I licked off the spoon that was covered with whipping cream and egg mixed, I was pleased with the taste. It was a bit sweet and had a hint of vanilla. I though.... why cook this mess, just drink it down. For the last several months I have been adding 2 tbs of whipping cream to my protein drinks. The question is, how much cream will it take to clog the arteries, 3 tbs per day, or maybe 4, 5 or 6 ? Possibly my arteries are clogged already. It there any simple way to tell, like maybe a biopsy of some artery tissue? I have looked at the USDA analysis of Whipping Cream. It contains a large variety of nutrients. If you want to see the items, without the search and menu steps, here it is..... http://www.fugitt.com/trailmix/cream.htm I think it is a good food, unless the man inflicted evils are enough for you to condemn it. Something everyone may not know, If you know a valid URL and directory name, you can type it into your browser and get a listing of the files in that directory. For example, this URL (below) will list all the files I have collected relative to nutrient analysis of the foods I eat regularly. http://www.fugitt.com/trailmix/ That is, if there is no index.html file residing in that directory. Try it on the link above. Most of this info came from the USDA database. I find some this source leaves a bit to be desired. If you click on a file in the list, it will either be displayed or downloaded, depending on the file type and how your computer is set up for file types. Whipping Cream is on the list twice. Sorry about that. Wayne > > Saturated fats are said to contribute to artery plaque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 - " Wayne Fugitt " <wayne Sunday, January 06, 2002 12:28 PM Cream, A saturated fat ? > For example, this URL (below) will list all the files I have collected > relative to nutrient analysis of the foods I eat regularly. > > http://www.fugitt.com/trailmix/ > I love your handy database, Wayne. I shall probably visit your site from time to time looking things up. One question: There is a column labeled " sample count " At first I thought that meant how many of the fruit they measured, but the number changes on each line, so that can't be it. So, what is it?!? Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 - <marianne2406 Sunday, January 06, 2002 12:46 PM Re: Cream, A saturated fat ? > In a message dated 6/1/02 18:32:40 GMT Standard Time, wayne > writes: > > If your arteries were significantly clogged you would have symtoms, i.e > breathlessness with slight exersion. I would not recommend having cream > every day, that is a sure recipe for clogged arteries - do you by chance have > fatty lumps around the eyes that were not there before? There is also > another sign which is on the ears but you will need Anne to tell you about > that one, I really cannot get to grips with it. > Marianne > > > > > > Possibly my arteries are clogged already. It there any simple way to > > tell, like maybe a biopsy of some artery tissue? > > As with most any health/diet issue, there seems to be different opinions. Dr.Schwarzbein says cream won't clog one's arteries. She does not say it in quite those words, so let me quote her (p283): " ...the patients who I have followed, who have increased their consumption of saturated fats (as well as all other good fats), have improved their cholesterol profiles, decreased blood pressure and lost body fat, thereby reducing the risk for heart disease. " I have been drinking cream now for about 6 months now (about 2 ounces a day) with no weight gain & no bad side effects I can discern. Cream helps with sugar cravings so I mix in some cream into a glass of milk each evening when I used to binge on cookies & milk. Alobar Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Evening Alobar, >One question: There is a >column labeled " sample count " At first I thought that meant how many of >the fruit they measured, but the number changes on each line, so that can't >be it. So, what is it?!? This column caught my attention as well when I first started collecting this type data. I just looked at several different foods. It varies considerably from food to food, and from item to item within a given record. I think this column indicates how many test were run to get this average data. We know that food will vary somewhat from sample to sample. Small samples would vary when taken from a large volume. With this in mind, I can only believe they made a half-decent effort to eliminate some of these variations. The idea above is only my guess and deduction. Maybe some chemist in the group could expand on this or correct the errors I have made. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote: > In a message dated 6/1/02 18:32:40 GMT Standard Time, wayne@f... > writes: > > If your arteries were significantly clogged you would have symtoms, i.e I had NO previous symtoms and had a heart attack from which I nearly did not return. Blessings Francie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 In a message dated 6/1/02 19:13:49 GMT Standard Time, alobar writes: My mother never ate cookies or candies, she rarely ate between meals that I can recall, but she loved cream, butter and all those sorts of things, ate really well (she was a professional cook) and died of heart disease at the age of 72, she, like me had heart problems from her early 50's. Heart disease is to some extent, heredity as well so look to your forefathers.............. I hope that you are able to consume this cream without repercussions but it may not happen in 6 months, it could be 2 years before you realise that you have been doing something wrong. Marianne > > > I have been drinking cream now for about 6 months now (about 2 > ounces a day) with no weight gain & no bad side effects I can discern. > Cream helps with sugar cravings so I mix in some cream into a glass of milk > each evening when I used to binge on cookies & milk. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 In a message dated 6/1/02 21:01:41 GMT Standard Time, francies2 writes: Were your arteries clogged? I had breathlessness from clogged arteries and it never occured to me that I had a problem, it was just annoying. That was the only reason I contact my GP, just as well because I would have carried on eating and doing all the things that I had been for the last 50 years and killed myself. However, my GP has been of no help at all - I have learned so much from this group - I know that I am now heading in the right direction. Marianne > I had NO previous symtoms and had a heart attack from which I nearly > did not return. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 In a message dated 7/1/02 18:09:23 GMT Standard Time, francies2 writes: Scarey - I hope that you have been able to repair most of the damage and are able to control the problem now. Marianne > So, a clot apparently formed over the artery and with > the slight build up of plaque, it was enough to cut off the flow and > stop my heart. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 In a message dated 7/1/02 21:03:20 GMT Standard Time, francies2 writes: Good for you Francie and long may you prosper in that light. I too am going to get myself better and then I will go back to those specialist and tell them HOW. I saw my thyroid specialist today (the third different one - no continuity there) and he looked at my notes for 10 minutes and then asked me if I was still losing weight - No I said still gaining - Oh! yes he says - well your weight seems to have plateued now (only 3 oz weight gain this 4 month period) - I will discharge you. So what about the 56lb weight gain in the last 2 years I ask - he shrugged his shoulders, signed my discharge papers and said goodbye - how is that for our caring profession? Marianne > Oh yes, that is my passion. My heart is clear, and good as new. > no problems whatsoever. I've studied and learned and applied much of > it to my life and health. > > Francie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 - > > Were your arteries clogged? I had breathlessness from clogged arteries and > Marianne > Hi Marianne, I had one artery that was " constricted " I have too many red blood cells which causes them to stick together. I had a LOT of stress the week previous, I was overweight from poor food combinations and hormone issues. So, a clot apparently formed over the artery and with the slight build up of plaque, it was enough to cut off the flow and stop my heart. Blessings francie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Oh yes, that is my passion. My heart is clear, and good as new. no problems whatsoever. I've studied and learned and applied much of it to my life and health. Francie Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote: > In a message dated 7/1/02 18:09:23 GMT Standard Time, francies2 > writes: > > Scarey - I hope that you have been able to repair most of the damage and are > able to control the problem now. > Marianne > > > So, a clot apparently formed over the artery and with > > the slight build up of plaque, it was enough to cut off the flow and > > stop my heart. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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