My answer to Ravinderji's charges.

February 16, 2006

Dear Ravinderji, I had silently moved away from the discussion of health topics in these groups as there was some controversy, which was expected. But by naming me in a letter circulated by you, you have again brought me into the game. Please note that I am not against any individual. I am working against the system of health care which has entrenched itself all over the world based on false premises. Today the fraud is apparent but monetary considerations and false pride still keeps the ball running. We have no one to blame as we have brought it upon ourselves enamoured by the doctors' false promise of ,"Go ahead and do anything you want, we are there with our antibiotics to cure you." Today antibiotics have created mayhem and most people have realised that there is no such thing as a free lunch. If we commit a mistake we have to reap the consequences. This is natures law for our own good so that we may not exceed

limits. Swami Ramdev is no fool. He knows every bit of the circus called AIDS. Whenever he is asked he smiles and replies, "AIDS ke bare mein main waqt ane par bataunga." A wise statement because many mainstream doctors in India are contemplating revealing the secret themselves. By allowing them to do their bit Swami Ramdev knows he will have a wider audience. Regarding me, after 1983 when I rejected modern medicine, here are the only medicines I took; 1. Psychiatric medicines for suicidal depression in 1984 as my parents panicked seeing my condition. I have since reduced the dosage slowly as also the number of medicines and today I am totally medicine free. It was a tremendous effort to wean myself away from the drugs as the withdrawl effects were extremely severe. I was supposed to be on medication for life. 2. A tetanus shot before a complicated dental

surgery by the HOD(Maxio Facial Surgery) of the Patna Dental College & Hospital and also the anaesthesia and a postsurgery pain killer shot. I took homeopathy instead of the heavy antibiotics and pain killers subsequently prescribed and my wounds healed in three days compared to the seven days as predicted by the surgeon. There was absolutely no swelling of the jaw and very minimal swelling of tissues. I had to take the tetanus shot as the surgeon would not have performed the surgery otherwise. I knew this shot had a liberal dose of Thimerosal as the words ethylmercury were on the vial. Regarding Dr Rebello's correspondence with Dr Sharma, I am aware of why Dr Rebello prefers to treat the allopaths in this manner. He is deliberately matching their voice power. You cannot imagine the language and behaviour we have to face while fighting these so called "medical scientists". Sometimes I wonder why they are allowed

to roam free. They should be admitted into mental hospitals and treated for schizophrenia and ego disorders besides grandour problems. Once I was called to deliver a short speech in a Rotary Forum. The learned doctors must have watched me (a very lean sick person at that time) enter the campus in my battered scooter and in ordinary clothes as against the Esteems and Boleros and two piece suits of the fat well fed doctors. Seeing me take a seat on the stage with them there were derisive sneers and snide comments. As I rose to speak and started my usual rhetoric there was a huge uproar. The learned people wanted to know whether I was a "qualified doctor or medical scientist". I replied, "Good Sirs, fortunately I am neither a doctor nor a scientist, I am a human being". The audience reaction to this statement allowed me to complete my speech. Therefore please realise that the public know only one side of the

story. The long struggle and the horrible treatment meted out to holistic healers and critics of modern medicine is not generally known. The "well mannered gentlemen" often resort to cancelling licences and imprisoning their own colleagues who dare to adopt holistic methods to cure their patients. What a "civillised" bunch of rogues!!! Talking of cure, there is not a single recorded cure in the annals of modern medicine. "Cure is a return to the original healthy state, a return to health and happiness, return of physical strength and emotional balance, return to productive work" as per a definition of WHO. None of the so called cures of modern medicine can ever fit into this criterion. They merely assist patients to move from a less dangerous disease state to a more dangerous one. They are simply ignorant of the dynamics of

disease, how can they talk of cure? Very recently Amitabh Bacchan has come out with a very strong statement. He said in an interview to Times of India, "I am dissapointed with modern health care. The side effects of drugs are worse than the disease". He suffered from an intestinal problem. The medicines led to myasthenia gravis and later intestinal perforation. Even the hernia he has now is the result of the intestinal surgery. People who see him today say he is a mere shadow of his former self. He was also on mood elevating drugs which compounded his problems. I pray to God he revives with his current yoga and ayurveda regime though we all realise that allopaths have "done their best" to him. About the cures for AIDS and Cancer, AIDS medications have the warning label, "Danger. Stay away from contact" and the skull & bones symbol. Almost all the AIDS deaths so far have been from ART, the so

called treatment. As regards cancer, genetic scientists have revealed that chemotherapy and radiation is a horrendous mistake as it simply releases the full blown power of the cancerous cells. If permitted I would like to post regarding the latest findings of genetic engineers. I hope you will let this message through without colouring it with your own comments. Please be a friend of humanity and not its destroyer. God will definitely bless your efforts in such a case. You are my friend and you will remain my friend whether you support me or criticise me. I have zero tolerance only for the "qualified doctors". Regards, Jagannath. "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." -

Aurobindo.

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February 16, 2006

Dear Mr. Chatterjee,

I too have a zero tolerance to the so-called doctors

prescribing strong medicines that do more harm than

good. My experience so far is that all the thousands

of patients who have seen me who is an ex-patient

popularly called doctor by them, have been cured of

pain and all other diseases without a single dose of

medicines of any type. Most of them have regained

their confidence and want to live for spreading this

holistic message. Before that, they had practically

lost interest in life.

Congrats and best wishes,

S. M. Acharya.

--- Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01 wrote:

> Dear Ravinderji,

>

> I had silently moved away from the discussion of

> health topics in these groups as there was some

> controversy, which was expected. But by naming me in

> a letter circulated by you, you have again brought

> me into the game.

>

February 16, 2006

Dear Ravi Kant: Exactly and for this reason and to devour all that they can to satisfy their greed, these pharma cartels and large corporations have moved strategically to keep benefits of Ayurveda and other Natural healing system burried under the carpets. Almost all the people have suffered enormous economic and health losses at the hands of this conspiracy hatched against billions of people. This is high time that we are able to produce ayurvedic medicinal plants and have quality pharmacies ready in large numbers to provide people with better and Holistic health alternatives. Ashok has remained unds keptRavi Kant Pathak <rpp wrote: Dear Brothers and sisters,I completely agree with Shri. Jagannath ji, for his criticism of modern health care system and modern medicine. I have never seen any worst health care system than USA has. It is domianted by coporate sector and everyone is forced to have medical insurances, costing generally ~700-1000$/month for a family of two people. They precribe medicine for every small thing and their procedure of treatment are way complex. I see such system highly unsustainable. They try to outwit common man on

the name of advancements of sicence & Tech. Mostly they preach false notions by interpreting them in their favour. They play with words and instinctive advertisements. for example: a man suffering from acidity wants to eat pizza. doctors here say; go ahead and take anta-acid pills and you can enjoy pizza.' this is pathetic and inhumane. In such conditions; the man going suffer from two side; pizza effect and chemical effect of drungs. the saddest part is whole world is trying to ape USA in hea!lth care and an other systems blindly. The most important point is that medical services have become business in the whole world rather than a human service. In whole game of health care, the spiritual aspect is missing. It is Doctors moral responsibility to show the light to common for perfect health. prevention is better than cure. bUt contemporary doctors never want that to happen as it takes away their luxury. Health care is not only treating the deceases but making people live

life with perfect. It is need of hour for Indian patriots to research back what our ancestors have said, practice and experiments. Forgive for wrong words. with truthRavi-------'Those who condemn politics to be the last resort of a scoundrel are boundto be ruled by scoundrels' - PlatoIf you agree with above quote, then be a part of second freedom struggle ofIndia, Bharat Uday Mission, at http://bharatudaymission.org"We have only one passion,The rise of a Great Nation."------Ravi Kant PathakDepartment of Chemical EngineeringCarnegie Mellon UniversityPittsburgh, PA-15213, USAphone: 1-412-268 6023 (office); 1-412-683 1315 (Residence)On Thu, February 16, 2006 2:39 am, Jagannath Chatterjee said:> Dear Ravinderji,> > I had silently moved away from the discussion of health topics in these> groups as there was some controversy, which was expected. But by naming> me in a

letter circulated by you, you have again brought me into the> game.> > Please note that I am not against any individual. I am working against> the system of health care which has entrenched itself all over the world> based on false premises. Today the fraud is apparent but monetary> considerations and false pride still keeps the ball running. We have no> one to blame as we have brought it upon ourselves enamoured by the> doctors' false promise of ,"Go ahead and do anything you want, we are> there with our antibiotics to cure you." Today antibiotics have created> mayhem and most people have realised that there is no such thing as a> free lunch. If we commit a mistake we have to reap the consequences. This> is natures law for our own good so that we may not exceed limits.> > Swami Ramdev is no fool. He knows every bit of the circus called AIDS.> Whenever he is asked he smiles and

replies, "AIDS ke bare mein main waqt> ane par bataunga." A wise statement because many mainstream doctors in> India are contemplating revealing the secret themselves. By allowing them> to do their bit Swami Ramdev knows he will have a wider audience.> > Regarding me, after 1983 when I rejected modern medicine, here are the> only medicines I took;> > 1. Psychiatric medicines for suicidal depression in 1984 as my parents> panicked seeing my condition. I have since reduced the dosage slowly as> also the number of medicines and today I am totally medicine free. It was> a tremendous effort to wean myself away from the drugs as the withdrawl> effects were extremely severe. I was supposed to be on medication for> life.> > 2. A tetanus shot before a complicated dental surgery by the HOD(Maxio> Facial Surgery) of the Patna Dental College & Hospital and also the>

anaesthesia and a postsurgery pain killer shot. I took homeopathy instead> of the heavy antibiotics and pain killers subsequently prescribed and my> wounds healed in three days compared to the seven days as predicted by> the surgeon. There was absolutely no swelling of the jaw and very minimal> swelling of tissues. I had to take the tetanus shot as the surgeon would> not have performed the surgery otherwise. I knew this shot had a liberal> dose of Thimerosal as the words ethylmercury were on the vial.> > Regarding Dr Rebello's correspondence with Dr Sharma, I am aware of why> Dr Rebello prefers to treat the allopaths in this manner. He is> deliberately matching their voice power. You cannot imagine the language> and behaviour we have to face while fighting these so called "medical> scientists". Sometimes I wonder why they are allowed to roam free. They> should be admitted into mental hospitals

and treated for schizophrenia> and ego disorders besides grandour problems.> > Once I was called to deliver a short speech in a Rotary Forum. The> learned doctors must have watched me (a very lean sick person at that> time) enter the campus in my battered scooter and in ordinary clothes as> against the Esteems and Boleros and two piece suits of the fat well fed> doctors. Seeing me take a seat on the stage with them there were derisive> sneers and snide comments. As I rose to speak and started my usual> rhetoric there was a huge uproar. The learned people wanted to know> whether I was a "qualified doctor or medical scientist". I replied, "Good> Sirs, fortunately I am neither a doctor nor a scientist, I am a human> being". The audience reaction to this statement allowed me to complete my> speech.> > Therefore please realise that the public know only one side of the story.>

The long struggle and the horrible treatment meted out to holistic> healers and critics of modern medicine is not generally known. The "well> mannered gentlemen" often resort to cancelling licences and imprisoning> their own colleagues who dare to adopt holistic methods to cure their> patients. What a "civillised" bunch of rogues!!!> > Talking of cure, there is not a single recorded cure in the annals of> modern medicine. "Cure is a return to the original healthy state, a> return to health and happiness, return of physical strength and emotional> balance, return to productive work" as per a definition of WHO. None of> the so called cures of modern medicine can ever fit into this criterion.> They merely assist patients to move from a less dangerous disease state> to a more dangerous one. They are simply ignorant of the dynamics of> disease, how can they talk of cure?> > Very

recently Amitabh Bacchan has come out with a very strong statement.> He said in an interview to Times of India, "I am dissapointed with modern> health care. The side effects of drugs are worse than the disease". He> suffered from an intestinal problem. The medicines led to myasthenia> gravis and later intestinal perforation. Even the hernia he has now is> the result of the intestinal surgery. People who see him today say he is> a mere shadow of his former self. He was also on mood elevating drugs> which compounded his problems. I pray to God he revives with his current> yoga and ayurveda regime though we all realise that allopaths have "done> their best" to him.> > About the cures for AIDS and Cancer, AIDS medications have the warning> label, "Danger. Stay away from contact" and the skull & bones symbol.> Almost all the AIDS deaths so far have been from ART, the so called>

treatment. As regards cancer, genetic scientists have revealed that> chemotherapy and radiation is a horrendous mistake as it simply releases> the full blown power of the cancerous cells. If permitted I would like to> post regarding the latest findings of genetic engineers.> > I hope you will let this message through without colouring it with your> own comments. Please be a friend of humanity and not its destroyer. God> will definitely bless your efforts in such a case. You are my friend and> you will remain my friend whether you support me or criticise me. I have> zero tolerance only for the "qualified doctors".> > Regards, Jagannath.> > > > "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the> conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo.> > > > > > ---------