Honey + Lime + Warm water - Benefits ?

[Guest guest]

I have started taking 2 teaspoons of honey mixed with 1 whole lime

juice in a large glass of water. I have noticed in the first few days,

that my hunger level almost doubled, but after a few days, I actually

think now my appetite has reduced. I am doing active yoga + running

and am on a calorie deficit diet.

 

I want to know

 

What is the exact benefit of taking lime with honey ?

What is the role of honey ?

What is the role of warm water ?

[Guest guest]

I've read that honey is a natural appetite supressant. And I have heard that

warm water and lemon is a natural diuretic. Maybe lime has the same effect. I

don't know though.

 

lapd94 <lapd101 wrote: I have

started taking 2 teaspoons of honey mixed with 1 whole lime

juice in a large glass of water. <snip>

I want to know

 

What is the exact benefit of taking lime with honey ?

What is the role of honey ?

What is the role of warm water ?

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir /Madam,

Please remember Honey is never to be mixed with Hot / Warm liquids as a standing

instruction as per the classical Ayurveda ! It becomes hazardous ! (Vishavat )

if consumed on daily basis for the long time !

If you think scientifically & rationally too , you will agree that it would not

be that beneficial.Honey contains Sugars, Proteins,Vitamins & Trace elements.

When Proteins comes in contact with Hot / Warm liquid it gets denatured !!

Lemmon contains Vit C when comes together with warm water looses its Vitamin

content to some extent, so I think it might be just useful to drink Hot water

rather than drinking coloured , flavoured & sweet Hot water.

With warm regards,

Prof.Dr.Aashish Phadke M.D.(Ayurved)(Mumbai)

www.ayurvision.com

[Guest guest]

Honey should not be boiled or cooked.

If the water is warm - slightly above room temperature it would not damage the

honey.

Lime and honey are very soothing to the nervous system.

Honey is very filling and satisfying and is good for satisfying sweet cravings

so it would be good to use for weight loss.

Lime is invigorating and soothing at the same time - it reduces stress while

giving energy.

Warm water is cleansing.

Honey is for reducing kapha - congestion and heaviness.

This is a very nourishing and cleansing combination if the water is warm and

not hot.

 

" dr.aashish phadke " <ayurinstitute wrote:

Dear Sir /Madam,

Please remember Honey is never to be mixed with Hot / Warm liquids as a standing

instruction as per the classical Ayurveda ! It becomes hazardous ! (Vishavat )

if consumed on daily basis for the long time !

<snip>

[Guest guest]

honey and lemon are simple matters. honey is health

benificial. honey is good for liver, may accelarate

body mettabolism by which have some control on weight

gain, lime is nerve relaxant and vit c of least

important we must follow padartha guna and not modern

food analysis methods.

useing hot water is harmless as many unani lehiyas

are prepared by concentrating honey by heating.

 

R.Vidhyasagar

--- " dr.aashish phadke " <ayurinstitute

wrote:

 

> Dear Sir /Madam,

> Please remember Honey is never to be mixed with Hot

> / Warm liquids as a standing instruction as per the

> classical Ayurveda ! It becomes hazardous !

> (Vishavat ) if consumed on daily basis for the long

> time !

<snip>

[Guest guest]

Honey may acceralate body metabolism, lime is nerve relaxant , one can use hot

water

that heat will not change honey's properties.

 

unani vaithyas prepare legiyams by concentrating honey by heting

In sidha bottled honey is burried in ground and fire is burned above ground

for 48 days and honey become candy and it is a kaya kalpa ie , rejuvanator.

 

R.Vidhyasagar.

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr.Phadke,

 

Many ayurvedic doctors recommend to drink honey with hot water and

lemon for weight reduction. If taken in cold water, it is supposed to

increase the weight. Even in Jindal Naturopathy Centre at Bangalore

they are still giving honey and lemon in hot water. You have confused

me now?

 

Has anyother memebrs have something to comment?

 

A.V.SUBRAMANYA

 

 

 

ayurveda , " dr.aashish phadke "

<ayurinstitute wrote:

> Please remember Honey is never to be mixed with Hot / Warm liquids

as a standing instruction as per the classical Ayurveda ! <snip>

[Guest guest]

Got this info online, thought it might be useful....

 

Honey is an excellent home remedy for obesity. It mobilizes the extra

deposited fat in the body allowing it to be utilized as energy for

normal functions.

Dosage: One should start with small quantity of about 10 grams or a

tablespoon, taken with hot water early in the morning. A teaspoonful

of fresh lemon juice may also be added.

Fasting on honey and lime- juice is highly beneficial in the treatment

of obesity without the loss of energy and appetite. For this, mix one

teaspoon of fresh honey with the juice of half a lime in a glass of

lukewarm water.

Dosage: Take several times a day at regular intervals.

 

 

 

ayurveda , " lapd94 " <lapd101 wrote:

>

> I have started taking 2 teaspoons of honey mixed with 1 whole lime

> juice in a large glass of water. I have noticed in the first few

days,

> that my hunger level almost doubled, but after a few days, I

actually

> think now my appetite has reduced. <snip>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr Aashish phadke

 

As far as i know honey is a mixture of sugars fructose (about 38%) and

glucose (about 31.0%) and maltose, sucrose, other complex

carbohydrates. In addition, honey contains a wide array of vitamins,

such as vitamin B6, thiamin, niacin, riboflavin, and pantothenic acid.

Essential minerals including calcium, copper, iron, magnesium,

manganese, phosphorus, potassium, sodium, and zinc. Antioxidant

compounds in honey are chrysin, pinobanksin, vitamin C, catalase, and

pinocembrin.

The percentage of protein / amino acids in honey is very low abt 0.4%.

 

 

My question to u sir is, Even if warm water coagualtes(????) this

megre amount of protein in honey, we take honey not for its

proteineous content, but for its other useful properties. So do u

think warm water with honey is not beneficial??

 

 

___________________

> Please remember Honey is never to be mixed with Hot / Warm liquids

as a standing instruction as per the classical Ayurveda

[Guest guest]

Thank you Dr. Phadke for this info. But, still, I wd like to know whther

Ayurveda can consider Honey only as

" Sugars, Proteins,Vitamins & Trace elements " ? And what is the Ayurvedic

perspective on " Proteins comes in contact with Hot / Warm liquid " and " Lemon

contains Vit C when comes together with warm water looses its Vitamin content " ?

Because, as a non-Ayurveda person, I have heard that Ayurveda does not deal from

inorganic point of view.

 

Ur info that " Honey is never to be mixed with Hot / Warm liquids as a standing

instruction as per the classical Ayurveda ! It becomes hazardous ! (Vishavat ) "

is very helpful for people

like me who have consumed this preparation ! Now, I am stopping it from 2mrw.

 

But, I wonder whether lemon counteracts and removes that 'vishvat' effect ? !!

After all, all Ayurvedic preparations

are known for their cumulative effect, not isolated effects of their

ingredients.

 

Pls remove my doubts.

Thanks again

warm rgds,

Yashendra

 

 

" dr.aashish phadke " <ayurinstitute wrote:

Dear Sir /Madam,

Please remember Honey is never to be mixed with Hot / Warm liquids as a standing

instruction as per the classical Ayurveda ! It becomes hazardous ! (Vishavat )

if consumed on daily basis for the long time !

[Guest guest]

When honey is heated the enzymes are killed.

 

It has to be really hot though that is why we should

only use pure and unpasturized honey.

 

It is okay to drink warm - rather than hot- water with

honey.

 

It is very good to do this for digestion, weight loss,

colds etc

 

--- Yashendra Prasad <yashendra2 wrote:

> as a

> non-Ayurveda person, I have heard that Ayurveda does

> not deal from inorganic point of view.

[Guest guest]

Often we will recommend a client to take either just a tall glass of

hot water in the am if they a) are somewhat constipated or ama is

clearly accumulated in other ways in the system. It pacifies vata and

helps complete the nightly cleansing work of the body, as well as

rehydrating. It also supports the body's fires/agnis to work better

than cool or even room temperature water, valuable for many issues

such as weight loss, low thyroid, congestion, and probably any vata or

kapha condition.

 

Often we ask them to add lemon or lime, specifying lemon for more

warmth and scraping/cleansing action for vata and kapha, and lime for

a little sweet and cooling vipaka with gentler but still good

cleansing, especially for pittas or summer season. Apparently also it

is more calming than lemon from reading other posts. Both fruits for

most people unless their system is really off, have a post digestive

alkaline result from their weak citric acids, and this is very good in

moderation for most people who live and eat a high acid forming lifestyle.

 

The hot water, and more, with citrus, encourage liver and colon to

begin peristaltic emptying actions. For many in this way, learned

from Polarity Therapy (sources in Marma/Ayurveda) 2-3 Tbs olive or

sesame oil is added, which enhances the liver/gallbladder/colon

flushing action. Some will get fresh garlic clove or ginger, cayennee

or other ingredients added to enhance the effect.

 

Then for some we use honey instead of the latter 2 sentences, for the

effect to help burn kapha, fat and ama, pacify vata (along with the

citrus and warmth) and provide micro and glycemic nutrients for blood

sugar level etc. For some we choose agave instead, it is lower

glycemic index than honey and has some similar effects, of warmth like

the honey and this following is my assessment, probably also fat/ama

burning to some degree. For more pitta conditoins, if something

similar desired, grade b maple syrup may be used but this does not

have the cleansing effects, only the gentle blood sugar support in the

morning.

 

Many are familiar with the Master Cleanse using fresh lemon juice,

some peel, pure water, grade b maple syrup, and cayenne for long term

fasting. Used properly with the salt water and laxative/carminative

teas, after 2-3 days appetite drops off and energy is usually very

reasonable. The cayenne helps burn am, both lemon and cayenne

maintain warmth. Those doing this in hot weather are likely to

aggravate pitta and best switch to lime from lemon and gentler grade

of cayenne for balance. You can google probably the details, but take

advice from ayurvedic doc first if your condition and body type is

suitable for such a cleanse. It was to my surprise one winter/spring

this very vata vikruti body (pitta kapha prakruti) handled it very

well for 9 days, but then failed to do the salt water cleansing which

purges accumulated mucous from colon, and tridoshic imbalance lasted

months until pulse assessment showed the problem and offered

corrections.

 

It would be natural to have initially increased appetite at first with

your lemon and honey water, until the cleansing effect on ama as well

as more efficient metabolism of fat are woken back up, then the body

becomes acclimated to running more efficiently as well as running on

long burning and non-insulin involveing fat burning. The influences

of each component stand on their own, and together cumulative effects

can be gained. It sounds like you are doing well; hopefully your diet

is appropriate ayurvedically for you.

 

Namaste;

Ysha

>

> I have started taking 2 teaspoons of honey mixed with 1 whole lime

> juice in a large glass of water. I have noticed in the first few

days, that my hunger level almost doubled, but after a few days, I

actually think now my appetite has reduced. I am doing active yoga +

running and am on a calorie deficit diet.

>

> I want to know

>

> What is the exact benefit of taking lime with honey ?

> What is the role of honey ?

> What is the role of warm water ?

>

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

Thanks for all your comments & suggestions !

I do agree that with Ayurvedic view point we need not bother for the chemical

analysis of Honey & whether water coagulates or not ....as suggested by one of

our fellow colleague.

But please let me know where we can find out the reference of usage of Honey +

warm water+ lemmon juice in any of the Authentic authoratative Samhitas (

Ancient Texts in Sanskrit ) of Ayurveda ? What we get is just a nirdeshan (

direction) that Honey should not be used with Hot objects. There is per say NO

reference on the Tar Tamatva (degree of warmness of the liquid with which Honey

is to be mixed with )

At the same time it was quite interesting information for me to read that in

Unani & Siddha system they recommend to cook the honey or heat the honey while

making some formulation.

My intension was very clear, not to create confusion in any ones mind but to put

forth the information I knew from the sources . As one may observe frequently we

see there are different view points , but when we mix the different streams (

viz.Naturopathy & Ayurveda or Allopathy & Ayurveda or simmillar ways...) there

is bound to have some differences of opinions, which need to be discussed at

large with all different perspective keeping in mind all aspects of

Tadvidyasambhasha , so this effort of our Online Ayurveda net group !!

I thanks all for participating very generously , in a much healthier way on this

Hot topic of Honey + Warm water + Lemmon juice

With warm regards,

Prof.Dr.Aashish Phadke M.D.(Ayurved)(Mumbai)

www.ayurvision.com

[Guest guest]

ayurveda , " dr.aashish phadke "

<ayurinstitute wrote:

 

> But please let me know where we can find out the reference of usage

of Honey + warm water+ lemmon juice in any of the Authentic

authoratative Samhitas ( Ancient Texts in Sanskrit ) of Ayurveda ?

What we get is just a nirdeshan ( direction) that Honey should not be

used with Hot objects. There is per say NO reference on the Tar

Tamatva (degree of warmness of the liquid with which Honey is to be

mixed with )

 

similar questions this forum needs to discuss:

 

1. For every decision, if a vaidya has to seek some reference of

Samhitas, or technical papers, where is the scope to use his own

cognitive faculty? We see good tabulation for diet to pacify Pitta,

Vata, Kapha, but do we ever find a patient of pure dosha. Most of the

time a patient has a mix of doshas to variable extent. The diseases are

multiplying and presenting so many different fronts, that sometimes authentic

authorative samhitas are unable to provide any guideline if communications

received from other practitioners in this forum as well as personal

communication to this author is to be taken as a data.

 

2. Many folk remedies work for most of the time, but they have no

place in samhitas or scientific literature. Hence they are not known

to even many practicing Vaidyas. These remedies are so simple that

many grandmas and housewives know, but Vaidyas have to learn from

them. To say that everything should have some documented reference is

an end to development. The vaidyas who still follow making herbal

mixtures to suit every specific individual, how can they document

their methods, formulations in the mathematical/statistical

parameters of modern scientific literature. What is lookwarm?

question arises because we have thermometer now. What is warm to one

may be hot to another subjectively. We must avoid this

mathematical/scientific/allopathic mindset and turn to simplistic

methods of acharyas, who used simpelst possible measures which could

be understood even by a layman. The system of Gunja/Masa/Tola for

weights for example.

 

3. Lastly ayurveda is endless, not restricted to documents and least concerned

with health numbers of modern science. Hundreds of cases where modern science

numbers have failed to indicate what is the problem and have confused the

practitioners are growing in leaps and bounds. Ayurveda spans across

puranas, upnishadas, other scriptures and

yoga+naturopathy texts also. Formalizing this vast subject into some

formulas and books is an impossible task. The beauty of ayurveda is

its various views/interpretations by differeent practitioners and

basic philosophies rather than rigid practices/formulae.

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr.Bhate,

 

Why should we consider it a impossible task to document all the Ayurvedic

references available in ancient Indian literature like Shruti-Smuriti, Puranas,

Upanishads and other treatises? A collective work of clinicians, scholars and

lovers of Ayurveda can see a hugh compendium materialising over a period of

time, which will include the household wisdom, folklore / adivasi experiences

and professional acumen of vaidyas. It would be like a enlarged 'updated revised

version' of modern-time Ayurved. If we believe in rebirth / re-incarnation, any

one amongst us could be Agnivesa, Charaka or Sushruta and so on. So why wait?

Why not do it ourselves in a collective effort? Maybe Cybervaidya can guide us.

I would also take this opportunity to appeal to my beloved juniors like Vd.

Manoj Nesari, Vd. Aashish Phadke, Vd. Prashant Sawant and all the other

knowledgeable Vaidyas and all members related to this forum to come together in

this massive " Ayurved-Sanskaran Yagya " to upgrade the data-base of Ayurveda.

Maybe we will be able to bridge many of the missing links in the Ayurvedic

scriptures as well as revive some long forgotten techniques and therapies which

may still be hidden in the remote jungles far away, in the hands and minds of

benovelent adivasis.

Om Dhanwantaraye Namah, Om Bharadwajaya Namah, Ayurved Uddhaaram Kuru.

 

In life-time service of Ayuveda,

 

Dr. Muzumdar (M.D.Ayurveda-Medicine)

________

<snip>

3. Lastly ayurveda is endless, not restricted to documents and least concerned

with health numbers of modern science. Hundreds of cases where modern science

numbers have failed to indicate what is the problem and have confused the

practitioners are growing in leaps and bounds. Ayurveda spans across

puranas, upnishadas, other scriptures and

yoga+naturopathy texts also. Formalizing this vast subject into some

formulas and books is an impossible task. The beauty of ayurveda is

its various views/interpretations by differeent practitioners and

basic philosophies rather than rigid practices/formulae.

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

I have come across a comment by one of our senior fellow colleague,

> Ayurveda spans across

puranas, upnishadas, other scriptures and

yoga+naturopathy texts also. Formalizing this vast subject into some

formulas and books is an impossible task. The beauty of ayurveda is

its various views/interpretatio ns by differeent practitioners and

basic philosophies rather than rigid practices/formulae......<

 

Well, if those are the views of majorities then , one need not raise such

suggestions as well , as mentioned by me ! I am just a student of Ayurveda

& still believes in the scripts of the same as formalised by our ancient masters

of Ayurveda ! I do also believe that we need to

learn between the lines of shlokas too ! But that does not allow us to

deviate the original message as per my own way of interpretation !

 

I am welcoming his views as well & I am sure there are many more on

this list who may accept or reject all these view points & may put forth their

views too ! From this question there was a good responce of mails & many of us

got benefited from the same including myself.

 

I dont find why one need to see any Allopathic / Modern scientific view point in

my question ? For the time being even if we accept that , then also whats wrong

? I think no branch of knowledge is wrong or bad per say !

Lets not forget what our Sushrutacharya has said -

Ekam shastram Adhiyano na bhavet Shastra Nishchayah !

Tasmat bahushrutam shatram vijaneeyat sah tu chikitsakah !!

 

With warm regards,

Prof.Dr.Aashish Phadke M.D.(Ayurved)(Mumbai)

www.ayurvision.com

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Muzumdar,

A good thought of compiling the ayurveda documented knowledge, indeed. I would

like to inform you that this exercise is already on in Delhi. The work of

documented Ayurveda is being digitised and compiled as Traditional Knowledge

Digital Iibrary which would cover Ayurveda, Unani, Siddha, Yoga. There is a plan

to include Folklore medicine later on. Presently the work is on in the fields of

Ayurveda, Unani and Siddha. The exercise which was started in an order to

prevent Bio Piracy might as well be utilised as a research tool by our

government for future endeavours in the field of herbal medicine.

Regards,

Dr. Sanjay Sharma

 

muzumdar <dahpc wrote:

Why should we consider it a impossible task to document all the Ayurvedic

references available in ancient Indian literature like Shruti-Smuriti, Puranas,

Upanishads and other treatises? A collective work of clinicians, scholars and

lovers of Ayurveda can see a hugh compendium materialising over a period of

time, which will include the household wisdom, folklore / adivasi experiences

and professional acumen of vaidyas.

<snip>

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[Guest jenniffer]

i wnt keep fit.

[Guest Guest]

how to increase weight ?is it possible with this lime ,cold water,and honey?

please let me knoe

 

thanking you in advance