Vaghbhat - a copy paster????

[Guest guest]

ganesh -

 

from which text did vagbhata take 100% of the information, copy it,

and then form an entirely new book from it?

lets see your citations - i provided several examples for " dr " rahul

 

like many ancient medical writers, vagbhata did take information from

earlier texts and compile them into his own, but he did not do this

to deceive and claim another's words and personal/clinical experience

as his own - in many respects he was simply performing a huge public

service, to preserve and disseminate the ancient ayurvedic knowledge,

and to make it a little more intelligible

 

and what was the result? vagbhata single-handedly revived and

supported the practice of ayurveda, making his text(s) the most

celebrated and perhaps the most useful of any existing ayurvedic text

ever - can we say the same of dr. rahul's website?

 

as a last note, perhaps you should ask the people from whom dr rahul

took this information, and ask them if its ok that he did it

unlike in vagbhata's case, where the knowledge was in threat of being

lost, i found the plagiarized materials simply by copying and pasting

in google

 

best... todd caldecott

 

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> Vagbhata was a 100% copy and paster............

[Guest guest]

The concept of plagiarism only dates back to around the English Renaissance;

before that the message was considered the important thing, not the author,

and it was fairly routine for people to take material from one text to

enrich their own and with so few books, as you say, it was a real service.

It is all a matter of perspective. I think with the web, we are swinging

back the other way. It is a fairly hot topic in the English departments

right now and we are debating it, documenting it, and grading down for it

Darla

 

On 7/9/07, Todd Caldecott <todd wrote:

> from which text did vagbhata take 100% of the information, copy it,

> and then form an entirely new book from it?

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[Guest guest]

Dear

I could not bear it when Gerald compared Vagbhata with another person because

I worship Vagbhata. I thought that I was responding to Gerald's ironic message

rather reciprocally. I am sorry that you were annoyed at my comments as any

Ayurvedist would be annoyed. I respect your faith in Ayurveda.

With regards

KKGanesh

[Guest guest]

no worries! we are on the same page then

best... todd

Caldecott

 

> Posted by: " ganesh kk " gnshkk gnshkk

>I am sorry that you

> were annoyed at my comments as any Ayurvedist would be annoyed. I

> respect your faith in Ayurveda.

[Guest guest]

> I could not bear it when Gerald compared Vagbhata with another

person because I worship Vagbhata. I thought that I was responding to

Gerald's ironic message rather reciprocally. I am sorry that you were

annoyed at my comments as any Ayurvedist would be annoyed. I respect

 

Hi Ganesh and other members,

 

Thanks for the fascinating responses.

 

First of all, let me say I have no strong moral stance about

plagiarism per se; but I do get annoyed when it is used dishonestly.

Nowadays, intellectual property is a complex issue that we have to

deal with more carefully.

 

Therefore, when I implied that Vagbhata was a plagiarist, I did not

mean it with any negative intent. I said it with tongue in cheek, to

point out, as you say, the irony of a common practice of yesterday

being continued today. You were right to point out the difference

between the situations.

 

I do not really worship anyone in Ayurveda, which may be a reflection

of my superficial understanding. My understanding is that Vagbhata

etc, were human beings like us, struggling with our mundane issues,

and doing the best we can. I do admire and respect Vagbhata though,

for the valuable work he has done in making Ayurveda more

comprehensible for us today.

 

Sometimes I may say things that challenge widely accepted beliefs.

This is always done in good faith, for the sake of discussion and

helping us all expand our knowledge and awareness. After all, it takes

two eyes to perceive depth.

 

I am very grateful to have discovered this great forum, and its

thought-provoking differences of opinion and knowledge. Thank you all.

 

Best regards,

Gerald

Auckland, Aotearoa - New Zealand