Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 potassium and magnesium before bedtime. Works for me every time. Jenny Kernan --- williamandkandyce <williamandkandyce wrote: > Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual > remedies on restless legs syndrome? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Funny you should ask now! Just a few weeks ago an elderly Reflexology client of mine asked me to Google this condition. I spent a few hours on it and the results are below.. What worked for my client: One of the remedies was based on Essential Oils. It is a mix of Lavender, Rosemary and Ginger. I did not have ginger at hand but I did put some of the other 2 in some mixing oil and told her to apply it to the base of her spine, as suggested. It works! She sleeps well when she uses it and wakes in the middle of the night if she forgets. She thinks I am a miracle worker. (preening smugly). I told her to give praise to Google, from which all such blessings flow. Restless leg syndrome research Here are the results of Googling RLS. The pharmaceutical drugs for it do not work in the long term and may be damaging for heart valves as well. They are the same drugs used for Parkinson's disease. Don't even go there. There are quite a few alternative remedies that all work for some people. One home remedy was put a piece of ordinary soap under the bottom sheet by the feet. Nobody knows why it works but many people swear by it. Quinine, even just Schweppes Tonic water, was mentioned by some people. It may cause heart irregularities if you take too much. Since M. has always needed large amounts of calcium and magnesium, I'd start there. She may have overdone the calcium and need more magnesium, or she is not absorbing minerals like she used to. Could she be anaemic? Iron and/or Potassium deficiency can also be a factor. There is a healing clay called Pascalite that is rich in both iron and magnesium. You can drink it in water and it is not bad at all. It has many health properties. Find it at http://pascalite.com One of the remedies advertised for RLS was ALLCALM, and it is just an extra potent form of magnesium citrate. Here are other hints from alternative websites, they all claim to work: A product called Night Time Leg Calm. It is essential oils of Lavender, Rosemary and Ginger blended in grape seed oil, applied to the base of the spine before bedtime. >snip Leg Calm from Native Remedies contains the following ingredients. They could be tried separately as well. The health food store probably has them. Astragalus membranaceous is a well-known revitalizing herb used for centuries in traditional . Astragalus balances and improves functioning of all the body's organ systems through its adaptogenic and tonic properties. This herb also boosts circulation and assists absorption of iron from food. This is important for sufferers of RLS as iron-deficiency anemia has been implicated in this condition. Ruscus acluteatus is also known as Butcher's Broom and is used extensively in Europe to improve circulation and relieve the pain and discomfort associated with restless leg syndrome. Also useful in treatment of constipation and water retention, circulatory disorders including hemorrhoids and varicose veins and as a bladder and kidney tonic. Aesculus hippocastum (Horse Chestnut) helps promote healthy blood circulation throughout the body, including the legs and can relieve Periodic Limb Movement and RLS by keeping the blood flowing smoothly even during rest and sleep. Rhus tox. (30c) is a homeopathic remedy for restless leg syndrome and is very effective in relieving the overwhelming desire to constantly move, change position or even get up and walk around at night. Rhus tox. is also useful for treating stiffness, snoring and night-time anxiety. Zinc met. (30C) is another homeopathic treatment for RLS and is used effectively for improving immune system functioning and aiding absorption of minerals to prevent deficiencies. Zinc met.also acts as a calming and psychologically soothing ingredient for people whose anxiety and excess energy manifest as periodic limb movement and night-time restlessness. Mag. phos. (6C) is one of the 12 Biochemic Tissue Salts and is very useful inthe treatment of spasms, muscle contractions and twitching and is an excellent aid in preventing involuntary limb movement. Mag. phos. also addresses deficiency of Magnesium which is known to be associated with Restless Leg Syndrome and Periodic Limb Movement. Another ad that promised relief was a natural sleep remedy that had magnesium, melatonin, and some calming herbs like Valerian, Chamomile and Passion flower. And finally, a certain Marie claims to have found The Answer after curing herself, and is willing to share it with you for $29.95 US. I hope some of this helps! Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Risking sounding like a broken record (or scratched CD, as the case may be), homeopathy addresses restless leg syndrome. We who work with homeopathic medicine view RLS as a part of a constitutional picture. That is, there are often other signs and symptoms (physically, emotionally, mentally) which are also calling out for healing: spinal sensitiviity, twitching in the body, aggravation from wine or other stimulants, etc., etc. Zincum is one of several remedies which could be appropriate for this condition. A thorough case taking by a professional homeopath is recommended as a possible course of action for you. Cathleen Springer, C.Hom , " williamandkandyce " <williamandkandyce wrote: > > Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual remedies on restless legs syndrome? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Hi, If you have restless leg syndrome, you can take homoeo medicine Zincum Met - 200c - 3 drops daily during bed time till relief is achieved. While the medicine is on no item of sour should be taken. Dr Subrata Das, Homoeo Consultant > " williamandkandyce " <williamandkandyce > > > restless leg syndrome >Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:02:07 -0000 > >Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual remedies on restless legs >syndrome? > _______________ The idiot box is no longer passé; it's making news and how! http://content.msn.co.in/Entertainment/TV/Default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Can you tell me where to purchase Zincum? Thanks williamandkandyce --- cathleensp <cathleen wrote: > Risking sounding like a broken record (or scratched > CD, as the case may be), homeopathy > addresses restless leg syndrome. We who work with > homeopathic medicine view RLS as a > part of a constitutional picture. That is, there > are often other signs and symptoms > (physically, emotionally, mentally) which are also > calling out for healing: spinal sensitiviity, > twitching in the body, aggravation from wine or > other stimulants, etc., etc. Zincum is one of > several remedies which could be appropriate for this > condition. A thorough case taking by a > professional homeopath is recommended as a possible > course of action for you. > Cathleen Springer, C.Hom > > > > > > , > " williamandkandyce " <williamandkandyce > wrote: > > > > Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual > remedies on restless legs syndrome? > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 There's an old wives' remedy that is supposed to work - put a bar of Ivory soap under the fitted sheet of your bed. Don't know how it works, but I've heard people swear by it, lol. http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/archives/home_remedies/soap_under_the_sheets_for_\ rls_leg_cramps.asp<http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/archives/editorial/new_treatme\ nts_for_restless_legs.asp> > > --- In <%40> > , > > " williamandkandyce " <williamandkandyce > > wrote: > > > > > > Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual > > remedies on restless legs syndrome? > . > > > -- Shana Clagg Hormone Health Nature's Way http://health.HormoneHealthNW/ The " Safest Products in the World " : http://www.ineways.com/shana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 fiamma: i've seen satisfactory results in tx this. my patients have presented with a yin xu pattern, sx appearing a night, so needling during the day wasn't an issue. k On 8/2/07, fiammasita <fiammasita wrote: > > I've had an inquiry regarding restless leg syndrome, which I have some > questions about > myself! Has anyone treated this? I need to do some research, but one of my > main concerns > (besides understand the mechanism leading to the condition) is needling > someone who feels > the need to move their legs. Any thoughts? > > Thank you! > Fiamma > > > -- Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 interesting; i will have to see when my patient experiences her RLS. thanks kath Chinese Medicine , " " wrote: > > fiamma: > > i've seen satisfactory results in tx this. my patients have presented with > a yin xu pattern, sx appearing a night, so needling during the day wasn't an > issue. > > k > > > On 8/2/07, fiammasita <fiammasita wrote: > > > > I've had an inquiry regarding restless leg syndrome, which I have some > > questions about > > myself! Has anyone treated this? I need to do some research, but one of my > > main concerns > > (besides understand the mechanism leading to the condition) is needling > > someone who feels > > the need to move their legs. Any thoughts? > > > > Thank you! > > Fiamma > > > > > > > > > > -- > Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA > Oriental Medicine > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective > > Asheville Center For > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 > kbartlett > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Hi Violet,A deficiency is magnesium is probably one of the causes of your restless leg syndrome. www.nativeremedies.com has a supplement called Triple Complex Nerve Tonic which consists mostly of magnesium. It is subliminal and works wonderfully. I am going to ask if you by chance have Fibromyalgia? Many times these two conditions go hand-in-hand. You can also take the following that will help both the restless leg and Fibromyalgia if you should have that:California poppy with corydalis - Take as directed. This stops muscle spasms, relieves pain, and induces sleep.Kava - 60 to 120 mg daily. Relaxes skeletal muscles, sedates the central nervous system.Passionflower - Tea bags. 1 cup 2 to 3 hours before bedtime. Induces muscle relaxation and sleepiness.Valerian - Valepotriate tablets. Take 50 to 100 mg on an empty stomach 1 hour before bedtime. Sedates muscles, reduces time to fall asleep.Also, you may want to eliminate caffeine.Hope this helps.Hugs,oleander soup , "violet1946" <sweetviolets01 wrote:>> > I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine,> but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my> restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month.> Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this?> Thanks for all your help.> > violet> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Please don't think I'm nuts! I got this from the book, Peoples Pharmacy, and it works. The authors said they were reluctant to include it because they could see no possible rationale for how it could work-----a bar of soap - can't be Irish Spring or Dove - between the top and bottom sheets of your bed. I've been doing this for several months as have 3 of my friends. ANd we all have had total or nearly total relief. So give it a try - it costs nothing and no side effects. Corky - violet1946 oleander soup Saturday, October 11, 2008 10:21 AM Restless Leg Syndrome I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine,but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for myrestless leg problem, I postponed him for a month.Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this?Thanks for all your help.violet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 How cool is that! Does it sort out the sleep apnoea too? My contribution was tryptophan which sometimes actually cures it. Sandyk R. L-tryptophan in the treatment of restless legs syndrome. Am. J. Psychiat. 143(4):554-555, 1986. Several studies show that supplementation with 2 grams per day of tryptophan totally cures restless legs syndrome. Iron - by restoring endogenous ferritin levels to normal O¢Keefe, S. T., et al. Iron status and restless legs syndrome in the elderly. Age and Ageing. 23(5):200-203, 1994. (Sorry about the "elderly" word in that sentence - we are all young at heart!) Folic acid - up to 5mgs per day Nicotinic acid form of Vit B3 Vit E 200-400 IU per day Maracuja --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Corky or Bill Rieder <bcrieder wrote: Corky or Bill Rieder <bcriederRe: Restless Leg Syndromeoleander soup Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:18 AM Please don't think I'm nuts! I got this from the book, Peoples Pharmacy, and it works. The authors said they were reluctant to include it because they could see no possible rationale for how it could work-----a bar of soap - can't be Irish Spring or Dove - between the top and bottom sheets of your bed. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 If one is overweight, losing weight is very beneficial for curing sleep apnea. We are on our way out the door and won't be back until tomorrow. I will post further then. Hugs, oleander soup , Maracuja <howdurdago wrote: > > How cool is that! Does it sort out the sleep apnoea too? > > My contribution was tryptophan which sometimes actually cures it. > Sandyk R. L-tryptophan in the treatment of restless legs syndrome. Am.. J. Psychiat. 143(4):554-555, 1986. > Several studies show that supplementation with 2 grams per day of tryptophan totally cures restless legs syndrome. > > Iron - by restoring endogenous ferritin levels to normal > O¢Keefe, S. T., et al. Iron status and restless legs syndrome in the elderly. Age and Ageing. 23(5):200-203, 1994. (Sorry about the " elderly " word in that sentence - we are all young at heart!) > > Folic acid - up to 5mgs per day > Nicotinic acid form of Vit B3 > Vit E 200-400 IU per day > Maracuja > > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Corky or Bill Rieder bcrieder wrote: > > Corky or Bill Rieder bcrieder > Re: Restless Leg Syndrome > oleander soup > Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:18 AM > Please don't think I'm nuts! I got this from the book, Peoples Pharmacy, and it works. The authors said they were reluctant to include it because they could see no possible rationale for how it could work-----a bar of soap - can't be Irish Spring or Dove - between the top and bottom sheets of your bed. > .. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Calcium Orotate (use the tablets not the capsules as there must be a coating in order for it to get assimilated correctly) and Ancient Minerals Magnesium Oil. The Ancient Minerals is great for all types of pain also. I am amazed by this product. It also helps with sleep. My elbow was hurting the other evening and I rubbed just a bit on it and it stopped hurting almost immediately. Good stuff and great for arthritis, muscle and joint aches and pain. Calcium is the most absorbable form of calcium (it also contains magnesium orotate) and works for all forms of calcium deficiency. http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/products/ancient-minerals-pure-magnesium-oil.html Be Well Loretta --- In oleander soup , " violet1946 " <sweetviolets01 wrote: > > > I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine, > but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my > restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month. > Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this? > Thanks for all your help. > > violet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 oleander soup , " violet1946 " <sweetviolets01 wrote: > > > I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine, > but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my > restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month. > Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this? > Thanks for all your help. > > violet Thanks for all the advice on the restless leg, I will check it all out & yes Mae I have Fibromylagia also & many other ailments, and yes I am a senior now.....LOL Stay healthy!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Strong B Complex. First noted in WWI after solders were on field rations for months at a time, it is a B vitamin deficiency symptom. I can't remember if it was B5 or B6. So, get a strong B Complex and you'll be covered.Dr. Goebel--- On Sat, 10/11/08, violet1946 <sweetviolets01 wrote:violet1946 <sweetviolets01 Restless Leg Syndromeoleander soup Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:21 AM I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine, but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month. Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this? Thanks for all your help. violet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Violet, Let me give you the remedies for Fibromyalgia found in The Best Years in Life Home Remedies . FibromyalgiaPay special attention to your diet. No sugars, no processed foods, no fast foods, no sweeteners. This all add to the problem and you may notice a big difference just by following the proper diet. Also, you will find colloidal silver and colloidal gold to be most helpful. I would like to emphasize that, contrary what doctors will tell you, you do not have to suffer with this the rest of your life. By following a healthy lifestyle and taking the proper supplements you can can be free of this condition.Hugs,oleander soup , "violet1946" <sweetviolets01 wrote:>> oleander soup , "violet1946" sweetviolets01@ > wrote:> >> > > > I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine,> > but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my> > restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month.> > Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this?> > Thanks for all your help.> > > > violet> > > Thanks for all the advice on the restless leg, I will check > it all out & yes Mae I have Fibromylagia also & many> other ailments, and yes I am a senior now.....LOL> Stay healthy!!> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 The few cases I have seen all resolved by nourishing yin, clearing deficiency heat, and calming the spirit. - Bill Schoenbart Chinese Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa wrote: > > I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and > my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of > wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5 > treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and > Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other > practitioners are doing? Thanks. > > Regards, > Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. > > angelapfa > > www.InnerhealthSalem.com > > Phone: 503 364 3022 > - > " Robert Chu " <chusauli > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:23 PM > TCM - > > > Dear colleague, > > I will be in NYC teaching Saturday and Sunday, September 12 & 13, 2009! > > I hope to see you there! > > In NYC! Yi Jing Acupuncture and Clinical for Difficult > Cases September 12- 13, 2009 > > Saturday-Sunday, September 12- 13, 2009, 9 am - 5:30 pm, early registration > on Saturday, September 12, 2009 for walk in registration 8:30 am - 9:00 am > > 15 Category One CA CEU's approved (7.5 CEU's per day) > > These classes are open to Acupuncturists of all levels! > > Day one: Yi Jing Acupuncture as taught by Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME > > Learn Yi Jing Acupuncture system, with the proper principles and concepts, > that made Dr. Chen Chao, founder of the Yi Jing Yin Yang Balance Method, one > of Taiwan's greatest Acupuncturists in this generation. > > Students and practitioners will be taught the most essential points to use > clinically for Neuromusculoskeletal and Internal Medicine problems. > > Point location and demonstration will be a part of this class. > > Day Two: Clinical for Difficult Cases > > This lecture will focus on point prescriptions from Master Tung, Yi Jing > Acupuncture and Optimal Acupuncture systems, and herbals for Difficult cases > seen in the clinic. We will discuss multiple treatment strategies and > herbal Rx's for these types of cases. > > Increase your Clinical Effectiveness! > > · Speed your clinical diagnosis utilizing the classical acupuncture > methods and get instantaneous results > · Expand your range of treatment options > · Enhance your treatments in the clinic > · Improve your practice with Yi Jing Acupuncture Single needle, 3/6, and > circuit methods > · Learn it all clearly by a native English speaker who bridges East and > West > · Discover proven clinical procedures for pain and internal medicine > problems > · Improve your acupuncture skills > · Open to Acupuncturists of all levels > > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME specializes in Master Tung, Yi Jing and Optimal > Acupuncture for treating pain, Neuromusculoskeletal disorders, and internal > medicine problems. An exciting and dynamic speaker, has been studying the > Martial and Chinese healing arts since childhood. In mid 2005, he founded > ITARA (International Tung's Acupuncture Research Association), a > non-political organization devoted to the preservation, standardization, > education, and research of Tung's Acupuncture, offering classes for the > spread and advancement of Classical Acupuncture systems. > In July of 2004, Dr. Chu was the Acupuncturist to Olympic athletes at the > Olympic Trials held in Sacramento, CA. He has lectured throughout the United > States, Canada and Europe on Master Tung's Acupuncture and the Yi Jing > Acupuncture of Chen Chao. > > To Register, please call (626) 487 -1815 or email chusauli > > $325/2 days, students $250/2 days, $25 discount for early registration by > August 15, 2009, No refunds. Seating is limited! > > Location: 1 Union Square West, Suite 715, New York, NY 10003 > > > > -- > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME > chusauli > > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei.com > > -- > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME > chusauli > > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Each case of RLS we have seen at our clinic had as a commonality multiple pharmaceuticals. Each had no history of RLS (other than during growth spurts as children) with development of the condition only after being on three or more meds for some time. Mark Z Chinese Medicine , " bill_schoenbart " <plantmed2 wrote: > > The few cases I have seen all resolved by nourishing yin, clearing deficiency heat, and calming the spirit. > > - Bill Schoenbart > > > > Chinese Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa@> wrote: > > > > I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and > > my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of > > wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5 > > treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and > > Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other > > practitioners are doing? Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. > > > > angelapfa@ > > > > www.InnerhealthSalem.com > > > > Phone: 503 364 3022 > > - > > " Robert Chu " <chusauli@> > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:23 PM > > TCM - > > > > > > Dear colleague, > > > > I will be in NYC teaching Saturday and Sunday, September 12 & 13, 2009! > > > > I hope to see you there! > > > > In NYC! Yi Jing Acupuncture and Clinical for Difficult > > Cases September 12- 13, 2009 > > > > Saturday-Sunday, September 12- 13, 2009, 9 am - 5:30 pm, early registration > > on Saturday, September 12, 2009 for walk in registration 8:30 am - 9:00 am > > > > 15 Category One CA CEU's approved (7.5 CEU's per day) > > > > These classes are open to Acupuncturists of all levels! > > > > Day one: Yi Jing Acupuncture as taught by Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME > > > > Learn Yi Jing Acupuncture system, with the proper principles and concepts, > > that made Dr. Chen Chao, founder of the Yi Jing Yin Yang Balance Method, one > > of Taiwan's greatest Acupuncturists in this generation. > > > > Students and practitioners will be taught the most essential points to use > > clinically for Neuromusculoskeletal and Internal Medicine problems. > > > > Point location and demonstration will be a part of this class. > > > > Day Two: Clinical for Difficult Cases > > > > This lecture will focus on point prescriptions from Master Tung, Yi Jing > > Acupuncture and Optimal Acupuncture systems, and herbals for Difficult cases > > seen in the clinic. We will discuss multiple treatment strategies and > > herbal Rx's for these types of cases. > > > > Increase your Clinical Effectiveness! > > > > · Speed your clinical diagnosis utilizing the classical acupuncture > > methods and get instantaneous results > > · Expand your range of treatment options > > · Enhance your treatments in the clinic > > · Improve your practice with Yi Jing Acupuncture Single needle, 3/6, and > > circuit methods > > · Learn it all clearly by a native English speaker who bridges East and > > West > > · Discover proven clinical procedures for pain and internal medicine > > problems > > · Improve your acupuncture skills > > · Open to Acupuncturists of all levels > > > > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME specializes in Master Tung, Yi Jing and Optimal > > Acupuncture for treating pain, Neuromusculoskeletal disorders, and internal > > medicine problems. An exciting and dynamic speaker, has been studying the > > Martial and Chinese healing arts since childhood. In mid 2005, he founded > > ITARA (International Tung's Acupuncture Research Association), a > > non-political organization devoted to the preservation, standardization, > > education, and research of Tung's Acupuncture, offering classes for the > > spread and advancement of Classical Acupuncture systems. > > In July of 2004, Dr. Chu was the Acupuncturist to Olympic athletes at the > > Olympic Trials held in Sacramento, CA. He has lectured throughout the United > > States, Canada and Europe on Master Tung's Acupuncture and the Yi Jing > > Acupuncture of Chen Chao. > > > > To Register, please call (626) 487 -1815 or email chusauli@ > > > > $325/2 days, students $250/2 days, $25 discount for early registration by > > August 15, 2009, No refunds. Seating is limited! > > > > Location: 1 Union Square West, Suite 715, New York, NY 10003 > > > > > > > > -- > > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME > > chusauli@ > > > > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei.com > > > > -- > > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME > > chusauli@ > > > > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I see this a lot: Herbs first, acupuncture as adjunct. Treat for the pattern. Like Bill, often see Yin def heat and unsettled shen, sometimes a base of yang def. Resolution is not too difficult. Hope that helps, Hugo ________________________________ Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com http://www.middlemedicine.org ________________________________ bill_schoenbart <plantmed2 Chinese Medicine Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 17:45:21 Re: Restless leg syndrome The few cases I have seen all resolved by nourishing yin, clearing deficiency heat, and calming the spirit. - Bill Schoenbart Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa@. ..> wrote: > > I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and > my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of > wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5 > treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and > Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other > practitioners are doing? Thanks. > > Regards, > Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. > > angelapfa@.. . > > www.InnerhealthSale m.com > > Phone: 503 364 3022 > - > " Robert Chu " <chusauli@.. .> > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:23 PM > TCM - > > > Dear colleague, > > I will be in NYC teaching Saturday and Sunday, September 12 & 13, 2009! > > I hope to see you there! > > In NYC! Yi Jing Acupuncture and Clinical for Difficult > Cases September 12- 13, 2009 > > Saturday-Sunday, September 12- 13, 2009, 9 am - 5:30 pm, early registration > on Saturday, September 12, 2009 for walk in registration 8:30 am - 9:00 am > > 15 Category One CA CEU's approved (7.5 CEU's per day) > > These classes are open to Acupuncturists of all levels! > > Day one: Yi Jing Acupuncture as taught by Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME > > Learn Yi Jing Acupuncture system, with the proper principles and concepts, > that made Dr. Chen Chao, founder of the Yi Jing Yin Yang Balance Method, one > of Taiwan's greatest Acupuncturists in this generation. > > Students and practitioners will be taught the most essential points to use > clinically for Neuromusculoskeleta l and Internal Medicine problems. > > Point location and demonstration will be a part of this class. > > Day Two: Clinical for Difficult Cases > > This lecture will focus on point prescriptions from Master Tung, Yi Jing > Acupuncture and Optimal Acupuncture systems, and herbals for Difficult cases > seen in the clinic. We will discuss multiple treatment strategies and > herbal Rx's for these types of cases. > > Increase your Clinical Effectiveness! > > · Speed your clinical diagnosis utilizing the classical acupuncture > methods and get instantaneous results > · Expand your range of treatment options > · Enhance your treatments in the clinic > · Improve your practice with Yi Jing Acupuncture Single needle, 3/6, and > circuit methods > · Learn it all clearly by a native English speaker who bridges East and > West > · Discover proven clinical procedures for pain and internal medicine > problems > · Improve your acupuncture skills > · Open to Acupuncturists of all levels > > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME specializes in Master Tung, Yi Jing and Optimal > Acupuncture for treating pain, Neuromusculoskeleta l disorders, and internal > medicine problems. An exciting and dynamic speaker, has been studying the > Martial and Chinese healing arts since childhood. In mid 2005, he founded > ITARA (International Tung's Acupuncture Research Association) , a > non-political organization devoted to the preservation, standardization, > education, and research of Tung's Acupuncture, offering classes for the > spread and advancement of Classical Acupuncture systems. > In July of 2004, Dr. Chu was the Acupuncturist to Olympic athletes at the > Olympic Trials held in Sacramento, CA. He has lectured throughout the United > States, Canada and Europe on Master Tung's Acupuncture and the Yi Jing > Acupuncture of Chen Chao. > > To Register, please call (626) 487 -1815 or email chusauli > > $325/2 days, students $250/2 days, $25 discount for early registration by > August 15, 2009, No refunds. Seating is limited! > > Location: 1 Union Square West, Suite 715, New York, NY 10003 > > > > -- > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME > chusauli > > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei. com > > -- > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME > chusauli > > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei. com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Dear Angela you may get a very good result using auricular points :Valium , aggressive , shen ,pineal gland body deep needing in the calf ( UB57 ,58) or trigger point therapy in the calf muscles . please let me know how was your results . Regards. Dr.Fadaie --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: Hugo Ramiro <subincor Re: Re: Restless leg syndrome Chinese Medicine Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:23 AM I see this a lot: Herbs first, acupuncture as adjunct. Treat for the pattern. Like Bill, often see Yin def heat and unsettled shen, sometimes a base of yang def. Resolution is not too difficult. Hope that helps, Hugo ____________ _________ _________ __ Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedici ne.wordpress. com http://www.middleme dicine.org ____________ _________ _________ __ bill_schoenbart <plantmed2 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 17:45:21 Re: Restless leg syndrome The few cases I have seen all resolved by nourishing yin, clearing deficiency heat, and calming the spirit. - Bill Schoenbart Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa@. ..> wrote: > > I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and > my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of > wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5 > treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and > Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other > practitioners are doing? Thanks. > > Regards, > Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. > > angelapfa@.. . > > www.InnerhealthSale m.com > > Phone: 503 364 3022 > - > " Robert Chu " <chusauli@.. .> > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:23 PM > TCM - > > > Dear colleague, > > I will be in NYC teaching Saturday and Sunday, September 12 & 13, 2009! > > I hope to see you there! > > In NYC! Yi Jing Acupuncture and Clinical for Difficult > Cases September 12- 13, 2009 > > Saturday-Sunday, September 12- 13, 2009, 9 am - 5:30 pm, early registration > on Saturday, September 12, 2009 for walk in registration 8:30 am - 9:00 am > > 15 Category One CA CEU's approved (7.5 CEU's per day) > > These classes are open to Acupuncturists of all levels! > > Day one: Yi Jing Acupuncture as taught by Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME > > Learn Yi Jing Acupuncture system, with the proper principles and concepts, > that made Dr. Chen Chao, founder of the Yi Jing Yin Yang Balance Method, one > of Taiwan's greatest Acupuncturists in this generation. > > Students and practitioners will be taught the most essential points to use > clinically for Neuromusculoskeleta l and Internal Medicine problems. > > Point location and demonstration will be a part of this class. > > Day Two: Clinical for Difficult Cases > > This lecture will focus on point prescriptions from Master Tung, Yi Jing > Acupuncture and Optimal Acupuncture systems, and herbals for Difficult cases > seen in the clinic. We will discuss multiple treatment strategies and > herbal Rx's for these types of cases. > > Increase your Clinical Effectiveness! > > · Speed your clinical diagnosis utilizing the classical acupuncture > methods and get instantaneous results > · Expand your range of treatment options > · Enhance your treatments in the clinic > · Improve your practice with Yi Jing Acupuncture Single needle, 3/6, and > circuit methods > · Learn it all clearly by a native English speaker who bridges East and > West > · Discover proven clinical procedures for pain and internal medicine > problems > · Improve your acupuncture skills > · Open to Acupuncturists of all levels > > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME specializes in Master Tung, Yi Jing and Optimal > Acupuncture for treating pain, Neuromusculoskeleta l disorders, and internal > medicine problems. An exciting and dynamic speaker, has been studying the > Martial and Chinese healing arts since childhood. In mid 2005, he founded > ITARA (International Tung's Acupuncture Research Association) , a > non-political organization devoted to the preservation, standardization, > education, and research of Tung's Acupuncture, offering classes for the > spread and advancement of Classical Acupuncture systems. > In July of 2004, Dr. Chu was the Acupuncturist to Olympic athletes at the > Olympic Trials held in Sacramento, CA. He has lectured throughout the United > States, Canada and Europe on Master Tung's Acupuncture and the Yi Jing > Acupuncture of Chen Chao. > > To Register, please call (626) 487 -1815 or email chusauli > > $325/2 days, students $250/2 days, $25 discount for early registration by > August 15, 2009, No refunds. Seating is limited! > > Location: 1 Union Square West, Suite 715, New York, NY 10003 > > > > -- > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME > chusauli > > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei. com > > -- > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME > chusauli > > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei. com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Chinese Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa wrote: > Hi Angela, I had few patients who did not respond to treatments until I started treatment for Lyme disease. I live in endemic area for LD. You can give these patients Magnesium supplements additionally. Magnesium deficiency is very often present in LD patients and quite severe. Hyperreflexia, muscle twitches, tight muscle spasms are clues to this deficiency. Magnesium is predominantly an intracellular ion, so blood level testing is of little value. Also, I recommend these patients walking/cardio exercise. All together, helps with severe spasms. > I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and > my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of > wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5 > treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and > Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other > practitioners are doing? Thanks. > > Regards, > Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I was in a Master Tung seminar today and several people in class said to have the patient place a bar of Ivory Soap, no Dove no Dial, under their bedsheet, in the area of the calves or ankles Change the bar of soap every 10 days or so Strange but true --- On Sun, 8/23/09, tgaid1 <tvgaid wrote: tgaid1 <tvgaid Re: Restless leg syndrome Chinese Medicine Sunday, August 23, 2009, 2:13 PM Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa@. ..> wrote: > Hi Angela, I had few patients who did not respond to treatments until I started treatment for Lyme disease. I live in endemic area for LD. You can give these patients Magnesium supplements additionally. Magnesium deficiency is very often present in LD patients and quite severe. Hyperreflexia, muscle twitches, tight muscle spasms are clues to this deficiency. Magnesium is predominantly an intracellular ion, so blood level testing is of little value. Also, I recommend these patients walking/cardio exercise. All together, helps with severe spasms. > I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and > my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of > wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5 > treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and > Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other > practitioners are doing? Thanks. > > Regards, > Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Whats the theory behind that? - " Michele Kingsley " <bermudamichele <Chinese Medicine > Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:35 PM Re: Re: Restless leg syndrome I was in a Master Tung seminar today and several people in class said to have the patient place a bar of Ivory Soap, no Dove no Dial, under their bedsheet, in the area of the calves or ankles Change the bar of soap every 10 days or so Strange but true --- On Sun, 8/23/09, tgaid1 <tvgaid wrote: tgaid1 <tvgaid Re: Restless leg syndrome Chinese Medicine Sunday, August 23, 2009, 2:13 PM Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa@. ..> wrote: > Hi Angela, I had few patients who did not respond to treatments until I started treatment for Lyme disease. I live in endemic area for LD. You can give these patients Magnesium supplements additionally. Magnesium deficiency is very often present in LD patients and quite severe. Hyperreflexia, muscle twitches, tight muscle spasms are clues to this deficiency. Magnesium is predominantly an intracellular ion, so blood level testing is of little value. Also, I recommend these patients walking/cardio exercise. All together, helps with severe spasms. > I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, > and > my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of > wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5 > treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and > Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what > other > practitioners are doing? Thanks. > > Regards, > Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I am 68 years old , my soft muscles at the back of the leg start itching like getting electric shock only after about 29 to 30 minutes of going to the bed at night or during afternoon nap.The shock is not continous, it is intermittent, not regular and is enough to disturb the sleep. Allupathic medecine GEBAPIN works but it gives me side effect.Diabetic for 15 years but under control. Any medicine in this stream with no side effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Gabapentin is know to not be a very nice drug at all, Homeopathic Hypericum 12x can help this, and Magnesium (optimum dose) taken in the mornings will also help, however drinking 2 - 3L good quality water a day is very helpful, including a full glass as you get into bed. This is often a type or side-effect of sciatica and DMSO applied to the sciatic root in the spine should help reduce overall inflammation of the nerve and thus help with pain along any of the branches of this nerve. Are you sedentary during the day? A " memory foam " cushion can help prevent exacerbation of sciatica. Best, Jane > I am 68 years old , my soft muscles at the back of the leg start itching > like getting electric shock only after about 29 to 30 minutes of going to > the bed at night or during afternoon nap.The shock is not continous, it is > intermittent, not regular and is enough to disturb the sleep. Allupathic > medecine GEBAPIN works but it gives me side effect.Diabetic for 15 years > but under control. Any medicine in this stream with no side effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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