help please

July 6, 2001

can anyone offer suggestions please?

janice

herbal remedies, Holistics@a... wrote:

> I am failing in treating a client homeopathically and wondered if

> anyone can offer herbal/vit solutions.

> male, 80 fine to couple of years ago and had bells palsy. this

> finally settled down and more or less cleared. after that he went

to

> docs as he put on weight and had swollen ankles-put on water

tablets

> (for 1 mth), weight dropped off and ankles down.

> then shortly after that started not sleeping, dropping off

to 'sleep'

> for seconds whilst eating/holding cup of tea/in conversation etc.

> he forgets things, (eg his daughter told him to do s/thing and he

> forgot)

> yesterday he added that from about 8pm he starts with restless legs

> (thigh area)-he is better for standing or walking round. he now

> thinks this is what is disturbing sleep as he has to keep getting

up

> and busying himself.this is what he wants help with-he needs to

sleep

> at night

> He can suddenly jerk (legs/upper arms)

> he's not on any drugs now

> (1) what can cause water in ankles-(heart/kidney/lungs?) how would

i

> know which (Doc's tests show he is fit and well)

> (2) would ginkgo be good for his problem - and gotu kola?? or what

> else

> (3) any ides what's going on?

> Thank you,Janice

July 6, 2001

Bells Palsy can be a symptom or result of Lyme disease.

Bobbi Sue

On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 09:06:08 -0000 Holistics writes:

> can anyone offer suggestions please?

> janice

> herbal remedies, Holistics@a... wrote:

> > I am failing in treating a client homeopathically and wondered if

> > anyone can offer herbal/vit solutions.

> > male, 80 fine to couple of years ago and had bells palsy. this

> > finally settled down and more or less cleared. after that he went

> to

> > docs as he put on weight and had swollen ankles-put on water

> tablets

> > (for 1 mth), weight dropped off and ankles down.

> > then shortly after that started not sleeping, dropping off

> to 'sleep'

> > for seconds whilst eating/holding cup of tea/in conversation etc.

> > he forgets things, (eg his daughter told him to do s/thing and he

> > forgot)

> > yesterday he added that from about 8pm he starts with restless

> legs

> > (thigh area)-he is better for standing or walking round. he now

> > thinks this is what is disturbing sleep as he has to keep getting

> up

> > and busying himself.this is what he wants help with-he needs to

> sleep

> > at night

> > He can suddenly jerk (legs/upper arms)

> > he's not on any drugs now

> > (1) what can cause water in ankles-(heart/kidney/lungs?) how would

>

> i

> > know which (Doc's tests show he is fit and well)

> > (2) would ginkgo be good for his problem - and gotu kola?? or what

>

> > else

> > (3) any ides what's going on?

> > Thank you,Janice

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

> physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

> long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

> risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

> products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

> and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

July 6, 2001

thanx, didn't know that. I'll see if anything relates to this man in

that area

janice

herbal remedies, Bobbi Sue Bowers <bookmom3@j...> wrote:

> Bells Palsy can be a symptom or result of Lyme disease.

>

> Bobbi Sue

>

> On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 09:06:08 -0000 Holistics@a... writes:

> > can anyone offer suggestions please?

> > janice

> > herbal remedies, Holistics@a... wrote:

> > > I am failing in treating a client homeopathically and wondered

if

> > > anyone can offer herbal/vit solutions.

> > > male, 80 fine to couple of years ago and had bells palsy. this

> > > finally settled down and more or less cleared. after that he

went

> > to

> > > docs as he put on weight and had swollen ankles-put on water

> > tablets

> > > (for 1 mth), weight dropped off and ankles down.

> > > then shortly after that started not sleeping, dropping off

> > to 'sleep'

> > > for seconds whilst eating/holding cup of tea/in conversation

etc.

> > > he forgets things, (eg his daughter told him to do s/thing and

he

> > > forgot)

> > > yesterday he added that from about 8pm he starts with restless

> > legs

> > > (thigh area)-he is better for standing or walking round. he now

> > > thinks this is what is disturbing sleep as he has to keep

getting

> > up

> > > and busying himself.this is what he wants help with-he needs to

> > sleep

> > > at night

> > > He can suddenly jerk (legs/upper arms)

> > > he's not on any drugs now

> > > (1) what can cause water in ankles-(heart/kidney/lungs?) how

would

> >

> > i

> > > know which (Doc's tests show he is fit and well)

> > > (2) would ginkgo be good for his problem - and gotu kola?? or

what

> >

> > > else

> > > (3) any ides what's going on?

> > > Thank you,Janice

> >

> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> > natural remedy.

> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

> > physician and to

> > prescribe for your own health.

> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as

> > long as

> > they behave themselves.

> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any

> > person

> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

> > risk.

> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

> > products from list members, you are agreeing to

> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

> > and members free of any liability.

> >

> > Dr. Ian Shillington

> > Doctor of Naturopathy

> > Dr.IanShillington@G...

> >

July 7, 2001

Dear Janice,

Not said anyhting about your post as I kept expecting Ian to say

something...

I presume you are a homeopath.

This, I beleive, is similar to allopathic medicine in that it treats

the symptom.

I would suggest that the whole body was treated and that this person

should immediately go on to a full Dr. Schultze type programme with

cleanses, change of diet, exercise, hot and cold showers etc., starting

off with a FULL enema..................Love Penny

July 7, 2001

hi penny - yes i'm a homeopath and homeopathy isn'tlike allopathy-

it's a holistic therapy as is herbalism. Homeopaths look to treat the

whole person also, but i'm also intersted in using herbs and vits as

a 'specific' to support the system involved and will use homeopathy

for the constitutional taking into account the 'mentals'. (hoping to

help from all angles here)

Personally no offence was taken but you would have upset many a

homeopath thinking they were allopathic!!!(anyway one good thing-

you've learned something you didn't know)

I will look at the programmes you suggest, thank you for that as this

is the side that isn't really covered in homeopathic training.

Janice

In herbal remedies, Penny Khaled <pennyclr75@i...> wrote:

> Dear Janice,

> Not said anyhting about your post as I kept expecting Ian to say

> something...

> I presume you are a homeopath.

> This, I beleive, is similar to allopathic medicine in that it

treats

> the symptom.

> I would suggest that the whole body was treated and that this

person

> should immediately go on to a full Dr. Schultze type programme with

> cleanses, change of diet, exercise, hot and cold showers etc.,

starting

> off with a FULL enema..................Love Penny

July 7, 2001

Hi, ya'll,

You know the dictionary is going to have to change the definition of homeopathy.

I looked it up the first time is saw it used and this is what it said:

the method of treating disease by drugs, given in minute doses, that would

produce in a healthy person symptoms similar to those of the disease.

That is different from how a lot of people are using it now. It doesn't mention

anything about herbs or vits or anything like that.

I'm new to this and was getting somewhat confused. Not unusual for me though.

:-)

Terry

---

FROM: Holistics

SUBJECT: [herbal remedies] Re: help please

DATE: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 20:35:21 -0000

hi penny - yes i'm a homeopath and homeopathy isn'tlike allopathy-

it's a holistic therapy as is herbalism. Homeopaths look to treat the

whole person also, but i'm also intersted in using herbs and vits as

a 'specific' to support the system involved and will use homeopathy

for the constitutional taking into account the 'mentals'. (hoping to

help from all angles here)

Personally no offence was taken but you would have upset many a

homeopath thinking they were allopathic!!!(anyway one good thing-

you've learned something you didn't know)

I will look at the programmes you suggest, thank you for that as this

is the side that isn't really covered in homeopathic training.

Janice

In herbal remedies, Penny Khaled <pennyclr75@i...> wrote:

> Dear Janice,

> Not said anyhting about your post as I kept expecting Ian to say

> something...

> I presume you are a homeopath.

> This, I beleive, is similar to allopathic medicine in that it

treats

> the symptom.

> I would suggest that the whole body was treated and that this

person

> should immediately go on to a full Dr. Schultze type programme with

> cleanses, change of diet, exercise, hot and cold showers etc.,

starting

> off with a FULL enema..................Love Penny

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list

members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members

free of any liability.

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

July 8, 2001

I've probably helped to confuse you - not difficult for me either!!

I (as a person who has been trained as a homeopath) use herbs/vits as

treatments alongside or instead of homeopathic remedies.

The homeopathic remedies can be made from any substance at all-

plants,animals,diseased tissue,insects,salt,sun - you name it. It

isn't a 'drug' as in Doctor's terms

Janice

herbal remedies, Terry Cox <terrycox@i...> wrote:

> Hi, ya'll,

>

> You know the dictionary is going to have to change the definition

of homeopathy. I looked it up the first time is saw it used and this

is what it said:

>

> the method of treating disease by drugs, given in minute doses,

that would produce in a healthy person symptoms similar to those of

the disease.

>

> That is different from how a lot of people are using it now. It

doesn't mention anything about herbs or vits or anything like that.

>

> I'm new to this and was getting somewhat confused. Not unusual for

me though. :-)

>

> Terry

>

> ---

> FROM: Holistics@a...

> SUBJECT: [herbal remedies] Re: help please

> DATE: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 20:35:21 -0000

>

> hi penny - yes i'm a homeopath and homeopathy isn'tlike allopathy-

> it's a holistic therapy as is herbalism. Homeopaths look to treat

the

> whole person also, but i'm also intersted in using herbs and vits

as

> a 'specific' to support the system involved and will use homeopathy

> for the constitutional taking into account the 'mentals'. (hoping

to

> help from all angles here)

> Personally no offence was taken but you would have upset many a

> homeopath thinking they were allopathic!!!(anyway one good thing-

> you've learned something you didn't know)

> I will look at the programmes you suggest, thank you for that as

this

> is the side that isn't really covered in homeopathic training.

> Janice

>

> In herbal remedies, Penny Khaled <pennyclr75@i...> wrote:

> > Dear Janice,

> > Not said anyhting about your post as I kept expecting Ian to

say

> > something...

> > I presume you are a homeopath.

> > This, I beleive, is similar to allopathic medicine in that it

> treats

> > the symptom.

> > I would suggest that the whole body was treated and that this

> person

> > should immediately go on to a full Dr. Schultze type programme

with

> > cleanses, change of diet, exercise, hot and cold showers etc.,

> starting

> > off with a FULL enema..................Love Penny

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

>

July 8, 2001

Thanks Janice for the enlitenment. I believe I understand now. lol

Since I am new to the list I also appreciate a response. After re-reading my

message I could see how there might not have been a question there, but you

picked up on the question. What IS homeopathy. Thanks again.

Terry

---

FROM: Holistics

SUBJECT: [herbal remedies] Re: help please

DATE: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 13:56:57 -0000

I've probably helped to confuse you - not difficult for me either!!

I (as a person who has been trained as a homeopath) use herbs/vits as

treatments alongside or instead of homeopathic remedies.

The homeopathic remedies can be made from any substance at all-

plants,animals,diseased tissue,insects,salt,sun - you name it. It

isn't a 'drug' as in Doctor's terms

Janice

herbal remedies, Terry Cox <terrycox@i...> wrote:

> Hi, ya'll,

>

> You know the dictionary is going to have to change the definition

of homeopathy. I looked it up the first time is saw it used and this

is what it said:

>

> the method of treating disease by drugs, given in minute doses,

that would produce in a healthy person symptoms similar to those of

the disease.

>

> That is different from how a lot of people are using it now. It

doesn't mention anything about herbs or vits or anything like that.

>

> I'm new to this and was getting somewhat confused. Not unusual for

me though. :-)

>

> Terry

>

> ---

> FROM: Holistics@a...

> SUBJECT: [herbal remedies] Re: help please

> DATE: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 20:35:21 -0000

>

> hi penny - yes i'm a homeopath and homeopathy isn'tlike allopathy-

> it's a holistic therapy as is herbalism. Homeopaths look to treat

the

> whole person also, but i'm also intersted in using herbs and vits

as

> a 'specific' to support the system involved and will use homeopathy

> for the constitutional taking into account the 'mentals'. (hoping

to

> help from all angles here)

> Personally no offence was taken but you would have upset many a

> homeopath thinking they were allopathic!!!(anyway one good thing-

> you've learned something you didn't know)

> I will look at the programmes you suggest, thank you for that as

this

> is the side that isn't really covered in homeopathic training.

> Janice

>

> In herbal remedies, Penny Khaled <pennyclr75@i...> wrote:

> > Dear Janice,

> > Not said anyhting about your post as I kept expecting Ian to

say

> > something...

> > I presume you are a homeopath.

> > This, I beleive, is similar to allopathic medicine in that it

> treats

> > the symptom.

> > I would suggest that the whole body was treated and that this

> person

> > should immediately go on to a full Dr. Schultze type programme

with

> > cleanses, change of diet, exercise, hot and cold showers etc.,

> starting

> > off with a FULL enema..................Love Penny

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

>

July 12, 2001

Dear Janice,

Sounds like Kidney problems with the small amount of data you've given, and I hate to sound like a broken record but you should start him on the full Total Body Cleanse with emphasis on the Kidneys (do the Kidney Cleanse before you do the Liver/Gallbladder cleanse).

I start ALL of my patients (No Exceptions) on the 4 week Total Body Cleanse and at the end of it, 80% of them forget what was wrong with them in the first place. Cleansings are the basics in herbal healing and no one gets away without doing the basics. No one!

Then I'd add the Gingko for the brain, the Hawthorne for the heart etc. etc. etc.

Hope this helps.

Love,

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

I am failing in treating a client homeopathically and wondered if anyone can offer herbal/vit solutions. male, 80 fine to couple of years ago and had bells palsy. this finally settled down and more or less cleared. after that he went to docs as he put on weight and had swollen ankles-put on water tablets(for 1 mth), weight dropped off and ankles down.then shortly after that started not sleeping, dropping off to 'sleep' for seconds whilst eating/holding cup of tea/in conversation etc. he forgets things, (eg his daughter told him to do s/thing and he forgot)yesterday he added that from about 8pm he starts with restless legs (thigh area)-he is better for standing or walking round. he now thinks this is what is disturbing sleep as he has to keep getting up and busying himself.this is what he wants help with-he needs to sleep at night He can suddenly jerk (legs/upper arms)he's not on any drugs now(1) what can cause water in ankles-(heart/kidney/lungs?) how would i know which (Doc's tests show he is fit and well)(2) would ginkgo be good for his problem - and gotu kola?? or what else(3) any ides what's going on?Thank you,Janice

July 13, 2001

Thanx Ian - can I ask what pointed you to kidneys (rather than heart)

Janice

herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Dear Janice,

>

> Sounds like Kidney problems with the small amount of data you've

given,

> and I hate to sound like a broken record but you should start him

on the

> full Total Body Cleanse with emphasis on the Kidneys (do the Kidney

> Cleanse before you do the Liver/Gallbladder cleanse).

>

> I start ALL of my patients (No Exceptions) on the 4 week Total Body

> Cleanse and at the end of it, 80% of them forget what was wrong with

> them in the first place. Cleansings are the basics in herbal

healing

> and no one gets away without doing the basics. No one!

>

> Then I'd add the Gingko for the brain, the Hawthorne for the heart

etc.

> etc. etc.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Love,

>

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

> I am failing in treating a client homeopathically and wondered if

> anyone can offer herbal/vit solutions. male, 80 fine to couple of

years

> ago and had bells palsy. this finally settled down and more or less

> cleared. after that he went to docs as he put on weight and had

swollen

> ankles-put on water tablets(for 1 mth), weight dropped off and

ankles

> down.

> then shortly after that started not sleeping, dropping off

to 'sleep'

> for seconds whilst eating/holding cup of tea/in conversation etc. he

> forgets things, (eg his daughter told him to do s/thing and he

forgot)

> yesterday he added that from about 8pm he starts with restless

legs

> (thigh area)-he is better for standing or walking round. he now

thinks

> this is what is disturbing sleep as he has to keep getting up and

> busying himself.this is what he wants help with-he needs to sleep

> at night He can suddenly jerk (legs/upper arms)he's not on any

drugs

> now

> (1) what can cause water in ankles-(heart/kidney/lungs?) how

would i

> know which (Doc's tests show he is fit and well)

> (2) would ginkgo be good for his problem - and gotu kola?? or what

> else

> (3) any ides what's going on?

> Thank you,Janice

August 8, 2001

CLOXAHATCHEE wrote:

> Can you put Chrysocolla in water and then drink the water

> for bloating?

I think Chrysocolla may have a high copper content and would not be

suitable for a traditional elixir due to possible toxicity.

I'm not sure offhand if it would be good for bloating anyway.

An energetic way to make an elixir is to hold a charged stone

against the side of a glass of water and intend the crystal charge the

water with its energy. That will program the water to become an

elixir. I have a gem elixir shakti too so I just run that while holding

the stone or run the energy shakti of the stone into the water but I

suppose these are " advanced " techniques . That method is much the same

as requesting the Deva of the stone empower the water or singing the

stones song into the water but use of those ways depends on what your

personal path or gift is in this work.

These energy elixirs usually only hold the energy for a few hours unless

specifically sealed or treated to last longer .

Is this intestinal bloating or water retention bloating or bloating of

the kind caused by circulatory issues? The stone to use and the way to

deal with it could be different in each case.

We don't have enough information.

We are not Doctors here, Crystal healing is a complimentary process

Peggy J

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In a message dated 8/8/01 11:38:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

skygreen writes:

> Is this intestinal bloating or water retention bloating or bloating of

> the kind caused by circulatory issues? The stone to use and the way to

> deal with it could be different in each case.

> We don't have enough information.

>

> We are not Doctors here, Crystal healing is a complimentary process

>

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October 29, 2002

Hi Liz, I did not explain his problem well did I. He has rhinitis which is

like having permanent hay fever. He is constantly congested and on a yearly

basis, this congestion turns into an infection that gives the symptoms of a

head cold. He is really suffering, constantly blowing his nose and hardly

able to breath bless him, he is determined that he will do it without the aid

of antibiotics, not because he believes but because he knows that I am so

against them. Believe me, he does not need any assistance for his bowel and

yes I have heard of the zapper but don't think that it will benefit him in

the long term.

Thanks for your help.

Marianne

> 30 mg of zin and 250 mg of vitamin C taken every 4 hours

> helps the symptoms of an irritated head cold. Also taking

> echenaica. (sp?)

>

> What others claim is that the zapper device really helps

> knock out the virus if taken early on. I don't know if

> you heard of this or not. It is interesting.

>

> What I have been doing this past 2 years is a bowel cleanse.

> I used a magnesium based product called Homozon. This product

> increased the hydrogen peroxide effect in the body and kills

> bacteria and viruses. I hadn't had a cold in 2 years and I

> contribut it to this. I am not sure what rhinitis is. Do a

> search to see if this product would benefit your husbands

> bowel or not.

>

> Antibiotics DO NOT kill off cold viruses. Only bacteria.

> So if you take antibiotics for a cold virus you only run

> the risk of putting your bowels out of balance. Make sure

> you supplement with pro-biotic.

>

> Liz D.

>

October 29, 2002

Thanks, I guessed that, we all get the dropped letter syndrome at times LOL.

Marianne

> That was supposed to be 30 mg of zinc not zin.

>

October 29, 2002

Are you on a dairy free diet? This has helped my husband immensly. I bake

all his bread, make any pastry out of soy spread, cook all his food from good

organic produce and it is definitely helping. I am now heading towards wheat

free as well because I think that is another culprit - he will probably fight

that one for a while just as he did the dairy free but he will allow it in

the end LOL.

I really cannot see that he would put a clove of garlic anywhere like you

suggest, I don't think I would personally - would it not make more sense to

eat the garlic as it would also help with the sore throat that way.

Thanks for your input.

Marianne

> I have rhinitis simular to your husband's. I recently went off all but two

> of my medications for asthma and alergies. The infections usually get down

> in my chest and put me in the hospital. Luckly this time, I ended up with

> an awful case of strep, but it was only on one side, which is a good thing

> for me. I tried putting a cut garlic clove dipped in olive oil up my

> rectum, and it helps with the congestion, although it did nothing for the

> sorr throat.

>

October 29, 2002

30 mg of zin and 250 mg of vitamin C taken every 4 hours

helps the symptoms of an irritated head cold. Also taking

echenaica. (sp?)

What others claim is that the zapper device really helps

knock out the virus if taken early on. I don't know if

you heard of this or not. It is interesting.

What I have been doing this past 2 years is a bowel cleanse.

I used a magnesium based product called Homozon. This product

increased the hydrogen peroxide effect in the body and kills

bacteria and viruses. I hadn't had a cold in 2 years and I

contribut it to this. I am not sure what rhinitis is. Do a

search to see if this product would benefit your husbands

bowel or not.

Antibiotics DO NOT kill off cold viruses. Only bacteria.

So if you take antibiotics for a cold virus you only run

the risk of putting your bowels out of balance. Make sure

you supplement with pro-biotic.

Liz D.

Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote:

> Hi everyone, I really could do with some advice here please. My

husband has

> rhinitis which we are getting under control with a dairy free

diet. However,

> he tends to get a head cold once a year that he cannot shake off

and he has

> normally gone to the dr and got a prescription for antibiotics.

This year we

> thought he would be free with all the supplements, the diet etc but

no, true

> to form it has hit him with a vengeance. Can anyone give me any

ideas on

> what to give him to get rid of this so that he does not have to

resort to

> antibiotics.

>

> Also, I am trying to get information on xanthum gum but cannot find

anything

> on it, plenty sell it but none give the ingredients of it.

>

> Thanks in advance

> Marianne

>

October 29, 2002

That was supposed to be 30 mg of zinc not zin.

Gettingwell, " elizdettrey " <Rabbitbrain@e...> wrote:

> 30 mg of zin and 250 mg of vitamin C taken every 4 hours

> helps the symptoms of an irritated head cold. Also taking

> echenaica. (sp?)

October 29, 2002

I have rhinitis simular to your husband's. I recently went off all but two

of my medications for asthma and alergies. The infections usually get down

in my chest and put me in the hospital. Luckly this time, I ended up with

an awful case of strep, but it was only on one side, which is a good thing

for me. I tried putting a cut garlic clove dipped in olive oil up my

rectum, and it helps with the congestion, although it did nothing for the

sorr throat.

October 29, 2002

I am not feeling my best today but I understand now.

First I want to say how important a bowel cleanse can be

because I read that over 75% of our lymph glands are in

our large intestines. This is our immune system. So keeping

that end of things in check is a very good investment of time.

Now what I want to tell you to try if you haven't.

MSM. Take 1/8 of the powder with 500 mg of vitamin C two

times a day, but not too late at night. Breakfast and supper.

Do that for 1 week and then increase the dose to 1/4 tsp.

You can put the powder in juice or water but make sure you take

the vitamine C. You don't have to take it with food.

I am suggesting this to your husband because it helps reduce

responses to allergies. I didn't have a bad problem like his

but a neighbor of mine did. I suggested it for her arthritis

and told her not to be surprised if her allergies are helped.

Well to my surprize by week two she was outside while my husband

cut the grass. See, she would get so stuffy suddenly and in her

chest when the grass was cut. Instantly she had to go in and take

her inhaler. Also she was put on antibiotics many times.

I could be talking to her and her voice would change suddenly.

She knew the wind changed and something blew her way. I am so

glad this helped her. Her doctor cannot believe that she isn't

having this condition anymore.

What I don't know is if the effects are short term or not. If

you have a serious problem you have to treat the whole body, not

just one area. She began taking this in the middle of summer and

it is still working for her. I like to buy the bulk powder rather

than the capsules, it is cheaper, has many other uses like a bath

soak and you know it is dissolved completely before taking it.

Do a search on MSM, it comes by a long name but there are lots of

sites for it.

Also I came across some site information on CELL SALTS. This could

be helpful too but you might want to search this out to see what

would work best. It is a very interesting subject and you can find

them in stores that sell homeopathic formulas.

Liz D.

Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote:

> Hi Liz, I did not explain his problem well did I. He has rhinitis

which is

> like having permanent hay fever. He is constantly congested and on

a yearly

> basis, this congestion turns into an infection that gives the

symptoms of a

> head cold. He is really suffering, constantly blowing his nose and

hardly

> able to breath bless him, he is determined that he will do it

without the aid

> of antibiotics, not because he believes but because he knows that I

am so

> against them.

> Thanks for your help.

> Marianne

>

October 30, 2002

Thanks for the info Beth but you really should give up the dairy, it has

helped my hubby a great deal since he gave up and, although not yet cured, it

is getting better - wheat is the next thing to go for him but I am building

up to telling him LOL.

Marianne

> Hi! This sounds like me! I've also got constant stuffiness, year round. I've

> been told by a certified nutritionist and several others where I work

> (health food store) that I should go off all dairy products for a minimum

> of 10 days to see if that's causing it. So far I haven't done that. I've

> tried a neti pot which flushes water through your nasal passages, that only

> lasts a few minutes and then I'm stuffed again. I can usually only breath

> about 65 - 75% at best, out of one nostril at a time and maybe 20% out of

> the other. If I feel a sinus infection coming on I begin taking Colloidal

> Silver and it usually stops it within 24 hours. I will continue taking the

> CS for a few more days just to be sure. That has helped me a lot. But, for

> the year round stuffy nose, I've yet to find relief. (not willing to give

> up dairy so far)

>

October 30, 2002

Marianne,

Hi! This sounds like me! I've also got constant stuffiness, year round. I've

been told by a certified nutritionist and several others where I work (health

food store) that I should go off all dairy products for a minimum of 10 days to

see if that's causing it. So far I haven't done that. I've tried a neti pot

which flushes water through your nasal passages, that only lasts a few minutes

and then I'm stuffed again. I can usually only breath about 65 - 75% at best,

out of one nostril at a time and maybe 20% out of the other. If I feel a sinus

infection coming on I begin taking Colloidal Silver and it usually stops it

within 24 hours. I will continue taking the CS for a few more days just to be

sure. That has helped me a lot. But, for the year round stuffy nose, I've yet to

find relief. (not willing to give up dairy so far)

Beth

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marianne2406

Gettingwell

Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:56 PM

Re: Re: Help please