Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 I juice and I swear by it! If anyone ever has the chance to purchase a juicer....DO IT! It will be one of the most important things you can do to take GOOD care of your entire body. It can litterally change your life. The very first time I tried a juiced drink, I had no idea what was about to happen to me...how it would change my outlook on juicing as I was a skeptic and totally unaware of the benifits. I was coming down with something that felt 'flu-like'. A friend juiced me a miracle drink. It consisted of: A quarter of a beet, 2 celery sticks, 4 carrots, 2 apples, half a cuccumber and a handful of parsley. Almost immediately, ALL of my syptoms dissappeard and I had energy like I hadn't had for a very long time. I was actually quite wired...LOL! Since then, I'm happy to say that we have our own juicer and to this day I still make that same drink. It's a hit with my husband when he needs a pick me up for work...not to mention, he's really bad about eating fruits and vegies. Another energy drink is just carrots and apples. For me, just the apples alone get me energized. This is a great way to get anyone, kids and adults alike to get the nutrition they lack. Juicing is a part of our daily lifestyle now. I strongly urge everyone to juice! Cindee {) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 yes it is the way to go....it helped me with my battle with cancer and its treatments.....does any one know of a good juice that can help rejuvenate or refresh the kidneys???? plz help....thanks a million , }}ï{{CindeeRoo}}ï {{ <cindeeroo wrote: > > I juice and I swear by it! > If anyone ever has the chance to purchase a juicer....DO IT! It will be one of the most important things you can do to take GOOD care of your entire body. It can litterally change your life. The very Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 I agree...but I hate my juicer. Anyone have strong recommendations on a juicer they use, love, and is easy to clean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Yes the OMEGA 8003/8005. I love it, cant believe how easy it is to clean. zoe Friday, March 9, 2007, 2:31:07 PM, you wrote: I agree...but I hate my juicer. Anyone have strong recommendations on a juicer they use, love, and is easy to clean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 I have the Green Star from 2-Life Health Products and it is pretty easy to clean and put together - and they give discounts on purchases - you can call their 800 # to ask questions and place order. I have been pretty satisfied. Mary Lou penache22 <penache22 wrote: I agree...but I hate my juicer. Anyone have strong recommendations on a juicer they use, love, and is easy to clean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Yes, I second the OMEGA 8003! zoe W <ilovegrafix wrote: Yes the OMEGA 8003/8005. I love it, cant believe how easy it is to clean. zoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 I use the Jack Lalanne's Power Juicer and love it. , zoe W <ilovegrafix wrote: > > Yes the OMEGA 8003/8005. I love it, cant believe how easy it is to clean. > zoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 From The Juice Ladys Guide to Juicing for Health by Cherie Calbom, MS (This book is a must have for juicers.) Kidney Tonic: 1 organic cucumber 8 asparagus stems 5 medium carrots 1/2 small beet w/ leaves and stems 1/2 small/medium organic lemon The book goes into some detail about kidney cleansing as well. Hope that helps you some Blessings, Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 I have an omega 8005 and it works just fine but organic vegtables are EXPENSIVE. I have heard from many sources that the greenstar extracts more juice. Does anyone have an opinion about this and does anyone at all know anything about the norwalk? They are really expensive, is it worth the price? You can sometimes find them on e-bay used. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 My accupuncturist recommends the norwalk, but is it worth the price difference - not to me. Perhaps if you can find a deal on ebay- I've not seen one recently. I love my Omega 8003 altho the peanut butter it makes can't compare to what I get with my Champion- however the difference in the cleanup makes me suffer with the Omega PB. zoe Friday, March 9, 2007, 5:54:44 PM, you wrote: I have an omega 8005 and it works just fine but organic vegtables are EXPENSIVE. I have heard from many sources that the greenstar extracts more juice. Does anyone have an opinion about this and does anyone at all know anything about the norwalk? They are really expensive, is it worth the price? You can sometimes find them on e-bay used. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hello, I just acquired a Green Star last month from 2-Life Health Products on the internet, and it does indeed extract more juice - the residue is 'bone dry' - but as you say, organic produce is very EXPENSIVE, and I find that with my limited income I will have to forgo purchase of all organic and will have to be selective. There is an outstanding difference in taste of organic produce versus regular produce that is sprayed and fertilized with undesirable ingredients. I understand that local farmers often have the next best thing to organic, as they do not often use harmful fertiilizers and such. Buying fruits and vegetables in season helps with the cost factor. Incidentally, I purchased the top Green Star model for $370 with no tax or shipping and handling fees. When you go to the site, you are offered a discount. If I purchased the same model in a regular store, I would have had to pay around $515 plus tax. Always do a little research before purchase - it pays in the long run. Mary Lou Dave Hermanson <moonphish wrote: I have an omega 8005 and it works just fine but organic vegtables are EXPENSIVE. I have heard from many sources that the greenstar extracts more juice. Does anyone have an opinion about this and does anyone at all know anything about the norwalk? They are really expensive, is it worth the price? You can sometimes find them on e-bay used. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hi Mary! Could you tell me the exact model that you purchased for $370? Was that the Gold power(GP-E1530) or the 3000? They are asking $419 for the Gold model in that website... this is after the email coupon! Thanks, Domingo Mary Flanigan wrote: > > Hello, > > I just acquired a Green Star last month from 2-Life Health Products on > the internet, and it does indeed extract more juice - the residue is > 'bone dry' - but as you say, organic produce is very EXPENSIVE, and I > find that with my limited income I will have to forgo purchase of all > organic and will have to be selective. There is an outstanding > difference in taste of organic produce versus regular produce that is > sprayed and fertilized with undesirable ingredients. I understand that > local farmers often have the next best thing to organic, as they do > not often use harmful fertiilizers and such. Buying fruits and > vegetables in season helps with the cost factor. Incidentally, I > purchased the top Green Star model for $370 with no tax or shipping > and handling fees. When you go to the site, you are offered a > discount. If I purchased the same model in a regular store, I would > have had to pay around $515 plus tax. Always do a little research > before purchase - it pays in the > long run. > > Mary Lou > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hi Domingo, I just went to the site and here's what I received when I asked for a coupon: Sales Team 1-800-479-7422 http://www.2-life.com Free Shipping & No State Sales Tax The Green Star 3000 is the World's Best Juicer. Remember the best juice comes from the best juicer. To receive your instant discount, using the coupon codes listed below. Then place the code in the coupon code section (3 screens in) of our secure shopping cart. Or give us a call at 1-800-479-7422 Green Star 3000 Juicer - Cost: $370.00 Use Coupon Code: gs3000 Green Star Juicer 3000 Pkg 1, Pkg 2, & Pkg 3 Use Coupon Code: gs3000 Green Star 3000 Pkg. 1 - Cost $395.00 Green Star 3000 Pkg. 2 - Cost $409.00 Green Star 3000 Pkg. 3 - Cost $419.00 TO ORDER NOW - http://www.2-life.com/site/gs3000form.htm You would need to order the one that I bolded and italicized - see above. If you have questions - give them a call to clarify the price. If you don't like what they say, don't order. I hope this helps. Mary Lou Domingo Pichardo <dpichardo3 wrote: Hi Mary! Could you tell me the exact model that you purchased for $370? Was that the Gold power(GP-E1530) or the 3000? They are asking $419 for the Gold model in that website... this is after the email coupon! Thanks, Domingo Mary Flanigan wrote: > Hello, > I just acquired a Green Star last month from 2-Life Health Products on > the internet, and it does indeed extract more juice - the residue is > 'bone dry' - but as you say, organic produce is very EXPENSIVE, and I > find that with my limited income I will have to forgo purchase of all > organic and will have to be selective. There is an outstanding > difference in taste of organic produce versus regular produce that is > sprayed and fertilized with undesirable ingredients. I understand that > local farmers often have the next best thing to organic, as they do > not often use harmful fertiilizers and such. Buying fruits and > vegetables in season helps with the cost factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 , " Tina " <mommyon731 wrote: >>>I use the Jack Lalanne's Power Juicer and love it.<<< If you are a raw foodist... this juicer isn't a good choice. Mainly because it is TOO fast. It kills enzymes. Thought you should know. Donna N. Cali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Is the Champion ok for speed? P x In a message dated 12/03/2007 18:11:17 GMT Standard Time, colbyjack98 writes: If you are a raw foodist... this juicer isn't a good choice. Mainly because it is TOO fast. It kills enzymes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I believe that to be true about the VitaMixer as well, but you hear so much hype about it. I am using the Omega 8003. I know it may not be the best, but $200 is all I can do for now since I am investing in all areas of improving my health. Thanks for sharing any thoughts/experience on this! Blessings, Tara Donna <idraw wrote: , " Tina " <mommyon731 wrote: >>>I use the Jack Lalanne's Power Juicer and love it.<<< If you are a raw foodist... this juicer isn't a good choice. Mainly because it is TOO fast. It kills enzymes. Thought you should know. Donna N. Cali. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 How does being too fast kill enzymes? If you are talking about heat, it does not heat the juice over 115-118 degrees, which are the temps that enzymes are killed. I have a lot of clients that use this juicer with great results. Be Well Loretta , " Tina " <mommyon731 wrote: >>>I use the Jack Lalanne's Power Juicer and love it.<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Hello, Group ! I am only a lurker, but this juicing issue is interesting and I have a question. There have been some posts regarding which juicer is the best, and I think that mainly entails easy to clean and efficiency (driest pulp). But since the whole point of juicing is to get the nutrition from the veggies and fruit juiced, Donna's point about getting a juicer that doesn't harm the enzymes leads me to ask a question others have already asked: What juicer is best for accomplishing the " big 3 " : maintaining the vitality of the nutrients, juicing most efficiently (leaving pulp dry), and clean-up ? Thanks ! Scott Tara Borosh wrote: > I believe that to be true about the VitaMixer as well, but you hear > so much hype about it. I am using the Omega 8003. I know it may not > be the best, but $200 is all I can do for now since I am investing in > all areas of improving my health. > Thanks for sharing any thoughts/experience on this! > Blessings, > Tara > > Donna <idraw wrote: > , " Tina " > <mommyon731 wrote: >>>> I use the Jack Lalanne's Power Juicer and love it.<<< > > If you are a raw foodist... this juicer isn't a good choice. Mainly > because it is TOO fast. It kills enzymes. > > Thought you should know. > > Donna > N. Cali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 I don't know the correct answer about which is the best juicer, but it could be the Green Star - the seemingly most expensive one because it juices slowly with twin gears and has the driest pulp - so no heat production while juicing and more juice. Mary Lou Scott Ogden <PurrDiem wrote: Hello, Group ! I am only a lurker, but this juicing issue is interesting and I have a question. There have been some posts regarding which juicer is the best, and I think that mainly entails easy to clean and efficiency (driest pulp). But since the whole point of juicing is to get the nutrition from the veggies and fruit juiced, Donna's point about getting a juicer that doesn't harm the enzymes leads me to ask a question others have already asked: What juicer is best for accomplishing the " big 3 " : maintaining the vitality of the nutrients, juicing most efficiently (leaving pulp dry), and clean-up ? Thanks ! Scott Tara Borosh wrote: > I believe that to be true about the VitaMixer as well, but you hear > so much hype about it. I am using the Omega 8003. I know it may not > be the best, but $200 is all I can do for now since I am investing in > all areas of improving my health. > Thanks for sharing any thoughts/experience on this! > Blessings, > Tara > > Donna <idraw wrote: > , " Tina " > <mommyon731 wrote: >>>> I use the Jack Lalanne's Power Juicer and love it.<<< > > If you are a raw foodist... this juicer isn't a good choice. Mainly > because it is TOO fast. It kills enzymes. > > Thought you should know. > > Donna > N. Cali. It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 I see juicing more as a way to obtain concentrated forms of natural vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients and other, as of yet " discovered " , substances into my diet to compensate for the lack of it in the food supply and to meet over demand for these nutrients as a result of the stressful effects of a polluted environment and a life style that is so alienated from the natural cycles of rest and activity. I think that it is best to have two types of juicer; one to process fruits like apples and vegetables like carrots and the other to juice grass and leafy greens like kale, parsley. Soft fruits like berries should probably be eaten whole. As far as heating of the juice during extraction, that is not really a factor in a centrifugal juicer as others have claimed here, that's just marketing BS by the competition. Food enzyme destruction is not caused by high speed but rather by high heart (above 112 to 118F). However, there is the issue of oxidation of essential fatty acids caused by the rapid mixing of oxygen and juice as it is pushed through the large spinning mesh in a typical centrifugal juicer. I suppose that if juicing were my only source of food I would be worried about that, but I get my essential fatty acids from fish oils(cod liver in the winter). Generally, I think it is not practical to depend solely on raw foods simply because you fear depleting your enzyme reserve. These days you can get food enzymes supplements that are excellent and even the founder of the food enzyme connection, Dr. Howell, advocated the use of these supplements as a practical means of compensating for its destruction during cooking. Oh, one last thing about juicing, you really should drink the juice immediately after extraction, the live enzymes and oxygen will begin to do their thing and the taste and color will change rather quickly. If you must store it, I would add ice and a little vitamin C and keep it in a filled-to-the-top, air tight jar in the refrigerator for no more than a day! Domingo Mary Flanigan wrote: > > I don't know the correct answer about which is the best juicer, but it > could be the Green Star - the seemingly most expensive one because it > juices slowly with twin gears and has the driest pulp - so no heat > production while juicing and more juice. > > Mary Lou > > Scott Ogden <PurrDiem <PurrDiem%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Hello, Group ! > > I am only a lurker, but this juicing issue is interesting and I have a > question. > > There have been some posts regarding which juicer is the best, and I > think > that mainly entails easy to clean and efficiency (driest pulp). But since > the whole point of juicing is to get the nutrition from the veggies and > fruit juiced, Donna's point about getting a juicer that doesn't harm the > enzymes leads me to ask a question others have already asked: What juicer > is best for accomplishing the " big 3 " : maintaining the vitality of the > nutrients, juicing most efficiently (leaving pulp dry), and clean-up ? > > Thanks ! > > Scott > > Tara Borosh wrote: > > I believe that to be true about the VitaMixer as well, but you hear > > so much hype about it. I am using the Omega 8003. I know it may not > > be the best, but $200 is all I can do for now since I am investing in > > all areas of improving my health. > > Thanks for sharing any thoughts/experience on this! > > Blessings, > > Tara > > > > Donna <idraw <idraw%40comcast.net>> wrote: > > > <%40>, " Tina " > > <mommyon731 wrote: > >>>> I use the Jack Lalanne's Power Juicer and love it.<<< > > > > If you are a raw foodist... this juicer isn't a good choice. Mainly > > because it is TOO fast. It kills enzymes. > > > > Thought you should know. > > > > Donna > > N. Cali. > > > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Thanks to Domingo and Mary Lou for their helpful comments !! Scott - " Domingo Pichardo " <dpichardo3 Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:00 AM Re: Re:The Healing Properties of Juice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Just a tidbit Gerson used the Champion juicer because he claimed that centrifugal juicers put a negative spin on the juice. Since he was wildly successful in his treatment, his opinion is worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier wrote: >>>How does being too fast kill enzymes? If you are talking about heat, it does not heat the juice over 115-118 degrees, which are the temps that enzymes are killed. <<< Due to the low rpm of single auger and/or twin gear press juicers, the oxidation that occurs while juicing is minimized (this maximizes the nutritional value in the juice). It is the oxidation that results with faster rpm juicers. >>>I have a lot of clients that use this juicer with great results.<<< ANY juicer is better than no juicer. I have many friends who have the faster juicers. My point is...if you want " maximum " nutritional value - one should opt for lower rpms. Donna NOT a Dr. But extremely educated non-the-less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 , Domingo Pichardo <dpichardo3 wrote: >>>I think that it is best to have two types of juicer; one to process fruits like apples and vegetables like carrots and the other to juice grass and leafy greens like kale, parsley. <<< Many single auger juicers do both. >>>As far as heating of the juice during > extraction, that is not really a factor in a centrifugal juicer as > others have claimed here, that's just marketing BS by the competition.<<< I don't recall anyone saying that it was the heating. It does kill enzymes - and although I am sure for many people this does not play into their decision. For me, I wanted the juicer that fit a few things: could juice quality juices, was easy to clean, and didn't cost me a fortune to purchase. The Omega 8003 and 8005 are (IN MY OPINION) a great buy because I get quality juice, it is REAL easy to clean, and I didn't go broke buying it. I have a friend who uses the Green Star and she loves it. I also have a friend who loves his centrifugal - I suppose it comes down to personal choices. I agree - no one should believe all they read. There is a great deal of marketing BS out there. I would encourage anyone to look it up and see who the articles are written by and how they might be biased - one way or the other. >>>[oxidation] I suppose that if juicing were my only source of food I would be worried about that, but I get my essential fatty acids from fish oils(cod liver in the winter). <<< One of the reasons that also could be mentioned is that oxidation changes the taste as well. However, I am a firm believer that if you drink or eat it for 3 weeks - you can acquire the taste for any food you want to consume. >>>Generally, I think it is not practical to depend solely on raw foods simply because you fear depleting your enzyme reserve.<<< Many raw foodists eat raw foods because they want to be healthy (as opposed to their fear of losing enzymes). Paying attention and education (as opposed to fear motivated) on enzymes is just par-for- course when trying to educate oneself on nutrition. >>>These days you can get food enzymes supplements that are excellent and even the founder of the food enzyme connection, Dr. Howell, advocated the use of these supplements as a practical means of compensating for its destruction during cooking.<<< You mentioned earlier not to listen to marketing BS. This is clearly a biased opinion - even if it is correct. Dr. Howell (and/or family and associates) sell supplements - how is that not biased marketing BS? >>>Oh, one last thing about juicing, you really should drink the juice immediately after extraction, the live enzymes and oxygen will begin to do their thing and the taste and color will change rather quickly. If you must store it<<< I totally agree with you here. Donna N. Cali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Thanks, Donna. I have heard before about oxidation concerns with juicers but I believe that the difference is probably very minimal and could possibly be a marketing tactic created by the manufacturers. If they have done studies that measured the nutrients in the juices from the various juicers, then they would have to make sure that each individual fruit or vegetable had exactly the same nutrients to begin with, which is probably impossible. I was juicing heavily in 2000 and 2001 and the consensus was to drink the juice immediately after preparation in order to get maximum benefit from the nutrients. Now many of the more seasoned and experienced juicers say that you can put the juice in a glass jar (filled to the brim with a tight fitting lid) in the fridge for a few days and drink as needed. I think I would be more concerned about the oxidation that takes place doing this than the oxidation that occurs at higher rpms, especially since the whole process of juicing a glass of juice should only take a few minutes. When I was fighting my cancer I actually used the Juice Man Plus. As an alternative doctor dealing in natural oncology, my doc wasn't even concerned with the type of juicer that I used. He was concerned that I juice several times daily and consume the juice immediately. After the cancer was gone I did get a Champion juicer and was excited to finely get one of the " more recommended for results " type of juicer. I used it twice and didn't like it at all. I'm sure there are good, better and best juicers but possibly this is something to where a person doesn't need to purchase the best in order to get the nutritional value that is needed for the body to heal. Maybe those extra dollars could go toward buying organic produce, etc. Just my thoughts; nothing set in stone, for sure. ) Be Well~ Loretta On Behalf Of Donna Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:05 PM Re:The Healing Properties of Juice , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier wrote: >>>How does being too fast kill enzymes? If you are talking about heat, it does not heat the juice over 115-118 degrees, which are the temps that enzymes are killed. <<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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