Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 Kayte, Isn't it yellow dock??? Or is Yellow dock for the Stinging Nettle bites?? !! Oh surely somebody knows, I left my notebook out in the van. If this was a test I know I'd flunk it at this minute!!! Elaine - <kayte <herbal remedies > Saturday, May 05, 2001 1:38 PM [herbal remedies] poison Ivy > Anyone know what herbs would be good to make a poultice for poison > ivy? > > > Kayte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 My husband if highly allergic to poison ivy. He has tried everything including herbal and homeopathic and allopathic treatments. When he was in grade school he got a poison ivy reaction so bad that his eyes swelled shut and he missed school for a week. It was all over his face and his arms and legs. When he finally went back to school they sent him home again. The children found him such a distraction because of his cursty, broken skin the teachers couldn't handle it. Apparently he looked terrible. So here is our remedy that works: The first and most important step is to break open the blisters and expose all the plant oils that are causing the reaction. Ken use to use a scouring pad and comet for this. But even though the doctors and " people in the know " told him that once he washed the area it couldn't spread they were dead wrong. If you react to poison ivy then the poison that you are reacting to will be in those blisters and once they break you can spread it farther. And until they are gone, it will itch and cause you grief. However, once you bread those blisters, and use some type of soap on it, the oils will be washed from your skin.This really doesn't hurt as much as it might sound. When you have that strong urge to scratch that area because it is driving you crazy, it actually feels good to rub a scratch pad over it. The next step it to promote healing. Charcoal can neutralize the poisons if there are any left and you can mix this with jewelweed if you have any. Otherwise we used stuff like plantain and comfrey. You will be amazed. Ken would have poison ivy hives for months before he started doing this. But if you do these two steps the area will immediately scab, stop itching and be healed very quickly. I have given this advice to others who have asked me. They have always written back thanking me. Especially when it is in bad spots like the crotch, under the arm or behind the knees. The sooner those spots heat the better! Annette - <kayte <herbal remedies > Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:38 PM [herbal remedies] poison Ivy > Anyone know what herbs would be good to make a poultice for poison > ivy? > > > Kayte > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 There's a homeopathic remedy called Rhus. Tox. which is designed to get rid of any skin condition, and has other uses. It is synthesized from very heavily diluted poison ivy. In the mountain west, we have gumweed, which is a particularly obnoxious plant found mostly in driveways. It is always associated with disturbed ground. I've rubbed it on an affected area, and it works within about an hour. It's also good for insect bites. Gumweed is so common and obnoxious, that i don't know of any herbal supplier that carries it. At 08:42 PM 9/2/01 -0700, you wrote: >What are some natural/herbal methods to get rid of >poison ivy? > -- Michael Riversong ** Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2003 Report Share Posted May 15, 2003 It's not Chinese medicine...but Plantain Extract works wonders. My family and I are mountain bike racers and although I am not allergic one of my two step-sons is extremely allergic to poison ivy. An herbalist recommended it to me several years ago. It is both a cure and a preventative. Now when we go to races where we are all sure to ride right through it, we take it before hand for several days and never see a trace. I like Herb Pharm liquid tincture taken orally in a small amount of water, it can also be spread directly on the rash to aid in the itching. My youngest is about 125lbs and I give him two dropper fulls twice a day, the oldest is about 165 lbs and I give him 2 1/2, and my better half gets 3. Usually I start them on it about 2 to 3 days before getting into it and continue for about 2 days afterward. If they ever do get poison ivy I give it to them until all of the signs of it are gone (usually only about 3 - 5 days) then continue for about 2 more days. Trust me this remedy works, I have recommended this to at least 30 people and it has always worked. Leesa Bolden Owner/Massage Therapist WholeBody Connection Serious Massage, Healing Acupuncture, Lasting Results www.wholebodyconnection.com 1617 W. 6th Suite C Austin, TX 78703 512-476-3100 - dautobrody acupuncture Wednesday, May 14, 2003 12:48 PM acupuncture poison ivy I have a person who is extremely allergic to poison ivy. If it's nearby and he doesn't even touch it, he will break out in the rash- and rather severely. The interesting thing to note is that it always blisters in the same areas- running along the pericardium channel on the forearm,around the ankles, and on the lower left side of his rib cage. Trying everything possible, nothing has helped when the rash is active. It usually takes 7 -12 days to run it's course. He will get blisters that will be extremely itchy and oozy. It's been happening since he was five years old (now 49). In extreme cases, has had it on his eyelids, nose, down throat... Would one consider this a response of the Kidney's wei qi being attacked (because of it being an allergy?) I have never dealt with poison ivy from a perspective. Any thoughts? Thanks Lauren ps- I don't believe my last post went through- Has anyone ever had success when treating snoring? Approaches to this? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2003 Report Share Posted May 15, 2003 My TCM theory is second year at best but my Shiatsu theory perhaphs is a little better. Shiatsu takes a harder look at all of the organs/meridians and the role they play while TCM more concerns itself with the big 5 My suggestion would be to check the Triple Heater (San Jiao). It is the partner with the pericardium. The TH function in Shiatsu looks like this for example: -Associated with the skin and the muscus membranes and the removing of toxins -Distrubutes nutirents to the extremities -Assists the Small Intestine -Regulates peripheral blood and lymph -Associated with our ability to change to our enviroment and emotions. So an imbalance could manafest as overly cautions sensitive skin rahses easy to catch a cold poor circulation in the periphery very ticklish dificulty adapting tense palms hypersensitivity (mental as well sometimes) prone to inflamation in general.... etc. Of course anything right on a meridian pathway points to that meridian itself so im sure you have check that already. PS Does the rash run down the leg between the GB and ST meridians and outside of the lateral ankle? Anyways I better take off. Tell me how it all goes and maybe fill in some more case information . TTFN, Eric acupuncture , dautobrody@a... wrote: > I have a person who is extremely allergic to poison ivy. If it's nearby and > he doesn't even touch it, he will break out in the rash- and rather severely. > The interesting thing to note is that it always blisters in the same areas- > running along the pericardium channel on the forearm,around the ankles, and > on the lower left side of his rib cage. Trying everything possible, nothing > has helped when the rash is active. It usually takes 7 -12 days to run it's > course. He will get blisters that will be extremely itchy and oozy. It's > been happening since he was five years old (now 49). In extreme cases, has > had it on his eyelids, nose, down throat... > Would one consider this a response of the Kidney's wei qi being attacked > (because of it being an allergy?) I have never dealt with poison ivy from a > perspective. Any thoughts? > Thanks > Lauren > > ps- I don't believe my last post went through- Has anyone ever had success > when treating snoring? Approaches to this? > Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 I looked in my book and there is nothing there about poison ivy. There are treatment reccomendations for Herpes,Exzema,leg ulcers and acne. It is mentioned that the Lung Meridian has a close affinity with the skin, but reccomends that no needling be done in the area of a sore. Some points stand out in the treatments for the other skin disorders and may be helpful for poison ivy. DuMai or Governor channell...#14,#15,#20 Sanjiao or Triple Warmer... #21,#17,#3,#5 GB #2 LI #11,#4 Lung #5(sedate?),#7,#9 Stomach #36 Spleen #6,#36 UB #40,#60 These points are used to treat other skin disorders, Hope that helps. -- In acupuncture , dautobrody@a... wrote: > I have a person who is extremely allergic to poison ivy. If it's nearby and > he doesn't even touch it, he will break out in the rash- and rather severely. > The interesting thing to note is that it always blisters in the same areas- > running along the pericardium channel on the forearm,around the ankles, and > on the lower left side of his rib cage. Trying everything possible, nothing > has helped when the rash is active. It usually takes 7 -12 days to run it's > course. He will get blisters that will be extremely itchy and oozy. It's > been happening since he was five years old (now 49). In extreme cases, has > had it on his eyelids, nose, down throat... > Would one consider this a response of the Kidney's wei qi being attacked > (because of it being an allergy?) I have never dealt with poison ivy from a > perspective. Any thoughts? > Thanks > Lauren > > ps- I don't believe my last post went through- Has anyone ever had success > when treating snoring? Approaches to this? > Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Dear Lauren, I was trying to think what can be behind this allergie, and I can't say I have a definite line of thinking, but I keep thinking about blood deficiency and the Chong-Yin Wei relationship. It is also worth checking what happened to the patient at the age of five, when this thing started, maybe that could point you to another direction. Kideny and Wei Qi are good directions, but this seems to be a deeper issue. Plus it is worth to check out the 8 year cycle- in males- and see what is dominant at the first cycle. Yael > -- In acupuncture , dautobrody@a... > wrote: > > I have a person who is extremely allergic to > poison ivy. If it's > nearby and > > he doesn't even touch it, he will break out in the > rash- and rather > severely. > > The interesting thing to note is that it always > blisters in the > same areas- > > running along the pericardium channel on the > forearm,around the > ankles, and > > on the lower left side of his rib cage. Trying > everything > possible, nothing > > has helped when the rash is active. It usually > takes 7 -12 days to > run it's > > course. He will get blisters that will be > extremely itchy and > oozy. It's > > been happening since he was five years old (now > 49). In extreme > cases, has > > had it on his eyelids, nose, down throat... > > Would one consider this a response of the Kidney's > wei qi being > attacked > > (because of it being an allergy?) I have never > dealt with poison > ivy from a > > perspective. Any thoughts? > > Thanks > > Lauren > > > > ps- I don't believe my last post went through- Has > anyone ever had > success > > when treating snoring? Approaches to this? > > Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Does anyone have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of Poison Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some Aloe Gel on it and it seems help for about an hour then the itch starts again. Thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it itself. I used Braggs brand.mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of Poison Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some Aloe Gel on it and it seems help for about an hour then the itch starts again.Thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I have never heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find this at any health food or vitamin store? Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it itself. I used Braggs brand.mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of Poison Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some Aloe Gel on it and it seems help for about an hour then the itch starts again.Thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I made my own, but I am sure they have it at a health food store. I would pick up the vinegar too.Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote: I have never heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find this at any health food or vitamin store? Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it itself. I used Braggs brand.mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of Poison Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some Aloe Gel on it and it seems help for about an hour then the itch starts again.Thanks, Ben Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Hi Ben, I'm not sure what Lobelia tincture is either but it would be better to try it based on Gina's recommendation as someone who has used it than to use hydrocortisone creams. Many of those creams contain aluminum. I am a big advocate of avoiding aluminum toxicity, especially after my life threatening cancer. I am going to the health food store to check out the lobelia tincture too, myself, as I have been looking for a suitable alternative to the hydrocortisone creams. I do grow lobelia in my flower gardens!!! And Gina, Thanks for the info! Blessings, Renee --- Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: > I made my own, but I am sure they have it at a > health food store. I would pick up the vinegar too. > > Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote:I have never > heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find > this at any health food or vitamin store? > > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: > I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has > worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and > healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if > the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it > itself. I used Braggs brand. > > mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone > have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of > Poison > Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some > Aloe Gel on it > and it seems help for about an hour then the itch > starts again. > > Thanks, Ben > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Hi, The lobelia I am talking about is not the decorative one, it is a weed. This is written in Sam Biser book: If cayenne is the King of herbs, this one is the Queen. Lobelia inflata A favorite of 19th century Master herbalist Samuel Thompson, who made it famous. It contains more active ingredients than any other herb except opium. Almost impossible to cultivate. Grows to a foot and a half high. Moves location year to year. Has tiny, slightly violet flowers and sometimes grows at the base of tree or in little open fields. Commercial tinctures are way to weak, and low dosages used are ineffective. this herb can save human beings in seconds when nothing else can help. I made my own, I learned this in Sam Biser book and it is extracted with 1/2 apple cider vinegar (Braggs) and 1/2 vodka. I order my herbs from Pacific Botanical you can get them at cost there and that is were Sam Biser book referred to get them. So from what this says I dont know if the commercial one is strong enough, but it is worth a try since you dont have time to make it. GinaRenee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote: Hi Ben, I'm not sure what Lobelia tincture is either butit would be better to try it based on Gina'srecommendation as someone who has used it than to usehydrocortisone creams. Many of those creams containaluminum. I am a big advocate of avoiding aluminumtoxicity, especially after my life threatening cancer.I am going to the health food store to check out thelobelia tincture too, myself, as I have been lookingfor a suitable alternative to the hydrocortisonecreams. I do grow lobelia in my flower gardens!!!And Gina, Thanks for the info!Blessings, Renee--- Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I made my own, but I am sure they have it at a> health food store. I would pick up the vinegar too.> > Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote:I have never> heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find> this at any health food or vitamin store? > > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has> worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and> healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if> the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it> itself. I used Braggs brand.> > mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone> have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of> Poison > Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some> Aloe Gel on it > and it seems help for about an hour then the itch> starts again.> > Thanks, Ben> > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Thank you very much for the info. I was in the health food store and did not find it. I found some Lobelia, but it said it is used for quiting smoking. I am now trying Jewelweed per recomendation of the store. But I will definetly check out this Sam Biser Book for future uses and if this Jewelweed does not work well I will try to find the Lobelia Weed and make this. I already have the Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar and the Vodka. Have you ever heard of Jewelweed and will it work good? They told me to give it 2 -3 days and it should be cleared up. Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: Hi, The lobelia I am talking about is not the decorative one, it is a weed. This is written in Sam Biser book: If cayenne is the King of herbs, this one is the Queen. Lobelia inflata A favorite of 19th century Master herbalist Samuel Thompson, who made it famous. It contains more active ingredients than any other herb except opium. Almost impossible to cultivate. Grows to a foot and a half high. Moves location year to year. Has tiny, slightly violet flowers and sometimes grows at the base of tree or in little open fields. Commercial tinctures are way to weak, and low dosages used are ineffective. this herb can save human beings in seconds when nothing else can help. I made my own, I learned this in Sam Biser book and it is extracted with 1/2 apple cider vinegar (Braggs) and 1/2 vodka. I order my herbs from Pacific Botanical you can get them at cost there and that is were Sam Biser book referred to get them. So from what this says I dont know if the commercial one is strong enough, but it is worth a try since you dont have time to make it. GinaRenee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote: Hi Ben, I'm not sure what Lobelia tincture is either butit would be better to try it based on Gina'srecommendation as someone who has used it than to usehydrocortisone creams. Many of those creams containaluminum. I am a big advocate of avoiding aluminumtoxicity, especially after my life threatening cancer.I am going to the health food store to check out thelobelia tincture too, myself, as I have been lookingfor a suitable alternative to the hydrocortisonecreams. I do grow lobelia in my flower gardens!!!And Gina, Thanks for the info!Blessings, Renee--- Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I made my own, but I am sure they have it at a> health food store. I would pick up the vinegar too.> > Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote:I have never> heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find> this at any health food or vitamin store? > > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has> worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and> healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if> the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it> itself. I used Braggs brand.> > mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone> have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of> Poison > Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some> Aloe Gel on it > and it seems help for about an hour then the itch> starts again.> > Thanks, Ben> > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Your welcome, I have no experience with jewelweed BUT that does mean a thing. I have personally never had poison ivy, others have that have been around me. Lobelia is the herb for the lung ( the Indians use to call it there wacky tabaky, it calms a person done)and yes it does help you quit smoking it make cigs taste terrible!!!! The unfortunate part about Biser book, he only make so many and when he is done with what he has they are no longer available. If you do ever get your hands on his book you will see what I mean, action packed with info. I have seen his books once in a while on ebay the ones that I have are Saving your Life with Cayenne & Laymen Course on Killing Cancer. Where I get the herbs from is www.pacificbotanicals.com you get them at cost but you are buying them one pound at a time which for tinctures you need that. But you will not believe the price difference. And great quality too. Okay I can go on,on, on and on. If you have anymore questions ask away. I hope that tincture helps. Be Well GinaBen Allen <mjs_daddie wrote: Thank you very much for the info. I was in the health food store and did not find it. I found some Lobelia, but it said it is used for quiting smoking. I am now trying Jewelweed per recomendation of the store. But I will definetly check out this Sam Biser Book for future uses and if this Jewelweed does not work well I will try to find the Lobelia Weed and make this. I already have the Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar and the Vodka. Have you ever heard of Jewelweed and will it work good? They told me to give it 2 -3 days and it should be cleared up. Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: Hi, The lobelia I am talking about is not the decorative one, it is a weed. This is written in Sam Biser book: If cayenne is the King of herbs, this one is the Queen. Lobelia inflata A favorite of 19th century Master herbalist Samuel Thompson, who made it famous. It contains more active ingredients than any other herb except opium. Almost impossible to cultivate. Grows to a foot and a half high. Moves location year to year. Has tiny, slightly violet flowers and sometimes grows at the base of tree or in little open fields. Commercial tinctures are way to weak, and low dosages used are ineffective. this herb can save human beings in seconds when nothing else can help. I made my own, I learned this in Sam Biser book and it is extracted with 1/2 apple cider vinegar (Braggs) and 1/2 vodka. I order my herbs from Pacific Botanical you can get them at cost there and that is were Sam Biser book referred to get them. So from what this says I dont know if the commercial one is strong enough, but it is worth a try since you dont have time to make it. GinaRenee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote: Hi Ben, I'm not sure what Lobelia tincture is either butit would be better to try it based on Gina'srecommendation as someone who has used it than to usehydrocortisone creams. Many of those creams containaluminum. I am a big advocate of avoiding aluminumtoxicity, especially after my life threatening cancer.I am going to the health food store to check out thelobelia tincture too, myself, as I have been lookingfor a suitable alternative to the hydrocortisonecreams. I do grow lobelia in my flower gardens!!!And Gina, Thanks for the info!Blessings, Renee--- Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I made my own, but I am sure they have it at a> health food store. I would pick up the vinegar too.> > Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote:I have never> heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find> this at any health food or vitamin store? > > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has> worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and> healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if> the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it> itself. I used Braggs brand.> > mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone> have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of> Poison > Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some> Aloe Gel on it > and it seems help for about an hour then the itch> starts again.> > Thanks, Ben> > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 HI Ben, I am not familiar with jewelweed but I find that most people that work in the health food stores are pretty knowledgeable and work in those places because they've had a need to make nutritional changes in their own lives. So please let us know how it works for you. Also, the lobelia for quitting smoking is very interesting info too. I want to look into that as it may help me in my consultations with people. I've yet to find any good or easy ways to quit smoking. For me, it was my doctors telling me I was going to die within 6 months. I was done in 2 days! But I don't want people to have to wait for that option to quit. Thanks again for the info. Blessings, ReneeBen Allen <mjs_daddie wrote: Thank you very much for the info. I was in the health food store and did not find it. I found some Lobelia, but it said it is used for quiting smoking. I am now trying Jewelweed per recomendation of the store. But I will definetly check out this Sam Biser Book for future uses and if this Jewelweed does not work well I will try to find the Lobelia Weed and make this. I already have the Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar and the Vodka. Have you ever heard of Jewelweed and will it work good? They told me to give it 2 -3 days and it should be cleared up. Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: Hi, The lobelia I am talking about is not the decorative one, it is a weed. This is written in Sam Biser book: If cayenne is the King of herbs, this one is the Queen. Lobelia inflata A favorite of 19th century Master herbalist Samuel Thompson, who made it famous. It contains more active ingredients than any other herb except opium. Almost impossible to cultivate. Grows to a foot and a half high. Moves location year to year. Has tiny, slightly violet flowers and sometimes grows at the base of tree or in little open fields. Commercial tinctures are way to weak, and low dosages used are ineffective. this herb can save human beings in seconds when nothing else can help. I made my own, I learned this in Sam Biser book and it is extracted with 1/2 apple cider vinegar (Braggs) and 1/2 vodka. I order my herbs from Pacific Botanical you can get them at cost there and that is were Sam Biser book referred to get them. So from what this says I dont know if the commercial one is strong enough, but it is worth a try since you dont have time to make it. GinaRenee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote: Hi Ben, I'm not sure what Lobelia tincture is either butit would be better to try it based on Gina'srecommendation as someone who has used it than to usehydrocortisone creams. Many of those creams containaluminum. I am a big advocate of avoiding aluminumtoxicity, especially after my life threatening cancer.I am going to the health food store to check out thelobelia tincture too, myself, as I have been lookingfor a suitable alternative to the hydrocortisonecreams. I do grow lobelia in my flower gardens!!!And Gina, Thanks for the info!Blessings, Renee--- Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I made my own, but I am sure they have it at a> health food store. I would pick up the vinegar too.> > Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote:I have never> heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find> this at any health food or vitamin store? > > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has> worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and> healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if> the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it> itself. I used Braggs brand.> > mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone> have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of> Poison > Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some> Aloe Gel on it > and it seems help for about an hour then the itch> starts again.> > Thanks, Ben> > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Hi Gina, My comment about growing lobelia in my flower garden was just a bit of humor. I do truly value this information, especially in regard to quitting smoking, as I hope to investigate and use that info to help people quit now. It really is a pretty little flower though. I used it last year in my hanging baskets, as I wanted a red, white and blue arrangement. Lobelia was the only truly blue flower I could find that would give me the cascading effect I wanted in my hanging baskets. I'm interested in finding out how the jewelweed works for Ben too, as I am not familiar with that either. I always want to learn! Thanks again for the info. It is valuable to me and I'm sure to alot of others who come here looking for answers. That is why we're all here, to share and learn! Blessings, ReneeGina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: Your welcome, I have no experience with jewelweed BUT that does mean a thing. I have personally never had poison ivy, others have that have been around me. Lobelia is the herb for the lung ( the Indians use to call it there wacky tabaky, it calms a person done)and yes it does help you quit smoking it make cigs taste terrible!!!! The unfortunate part about Biser book, he only make so many and when he is done with what he has they are no longer available. If you do ever get your hands on his book you will see what I mean, action packed with info. I have seen his books once in a while on ebay the ones that I have are Saving your Life with Cayenne & Laymen Course on Killing Cancer. Where I get the herbs from is www.pacificbotanicals.com you get them at cost but you are buying them one pound at a time which for tinctures you need that. But you will not believe the price difference. And great quality too. Okay I can go on,on, on and on. If you have anymore questions ask away. I hope that tincture helps. Be Well GinaBen Allen <mjs_daddie wrote: Thank you very much for the info. I was in the health food store and did not find it. I found some Lobelia, but it said it is used for quiting smoking. I am now trying Jewelweed per recomendation of the store. But I will definetly check out this Sam Biser Book for future uses and if this Jewelweed does not work well I will try to find the Lobelia Weed and make this. I already have the Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar and the Vodka. Have you ever heard of Jewelweed and will it work good? They told me to give it 2 -3 days and it should be cleared up. Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: Hi, The lobelia I am talking about is not the decorative one, it is a weed. This is written in Sam Biser book: If cayenne is the King of herbs, this one is the Queen. Lobelia inflata A favorite of 19th century Master herbalist Samuel Thompson, who made it famous. It contains more active ingredients than any other herb except opium. Almost impossible to cultivate. Grows to a foot and a half high. Moves location year to year. Has tiny, slightly violet flowers and sometimes grows at the base of tree or in little open fields. Commercial tinctures are way to weak, and low dosages used are ineffective. this herb can save human beings in seconds when nothing else can help. I made my own, I learned this in Sam Biser book and it is extracted with 1/2 apple cider vinegar (Braggs) and 1/2 vodka. I order my herbs from Pacific Botanical you can get them at cost there and that is were Sam Biser book referred to get them. So from what this says I dont know if the commercial one is strong enough, but it is worth a try since you dont have time to make it. GinaRenee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote: Hi Ben, I'm not sure what Lobelia tincture is either butit would be better to try it based on Gina'srecommendation as someone who has used it than to usehydrocortisone creams. Many of those creams containaluminum. I am a big advocate of avoiding aluminumtoxicity, especially after my life threatening cancer.I am going to the health food store to check out thelobelia tincture too, myself, as I have been lookingfor a suitable alternative to the hydrocortisonecreams. I do grow lobelia in my flower gardens!!!And Gina, Thanks for the info!Blessings, Renee--- Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I made my own, but I am sure they have it at a> health food store. I would pick up the vinegar too.> > Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote:I have never> heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find> this at any health food or vitamin store? > > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has> worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and> healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if> the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it> itself. I used Braggs brand.> > mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone> have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of> Poison > Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some> Aloe Gel on it > and it seems help for about an hour then the itch> starts again.> > Thanks, Ben> > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Hi Renee, Shoot, I hope I did not come off wrong when I said Lobelia is a weed and not decorative. My writing may sometimes come off not to gracious and I am truly sorry if it seemed that way. Gina Renee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote: Hi Gina, My comment about growing lobelia in my flower garden was just a bit of humor. I do truly value this information, especially in regard to quitting smoking, as I hope to investigate and use that info to help people quit now. It really is a pretty little flower though. I used it last year in my hanging baskets, as I wanted a red, white and blue arrangement. Lobelia was the only truly blue flower I could find that would give me the cascading effect I wanted in my hanging baskets. I'm interested in finding out how the jewelweed works for Ben too, as I am not familiar with that either. I always want to learn! Thanks again for the info. It is valuable to me and I'm sure to alot of others who come here looking for answers. That is why we're all here, to share and learn! Blessings, ReneeGina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: Your welcome, I have no experience with jewelweed BUT that does mean a thing. I have personally never had poison ivy, others have that have been around me. Lobelia is the herb for the lung ( the Indians use to call it there wacky tabaky, it calms a person done)and yes it does help you quit smoking it make cigs taste terrible!!!! The unfortunate part about Biser book, he only make so many and when he is done with what he has they are no longer available. If you do ever get your hands on his book you will see what I mean, action packed with info. I have seen his books once in a while on ebay the ones that I have are Saving your Life with Cayenne & Laymen Course on Killing Cancer. Where I get the herbs from is www.pacificbotanicals.com you get them at cost but you are buying them one pound at a time which for tinctures you need that. But you will not believe the price difference. And great quality too. Okay I can go on,on, on and on. If you have anymore questions ask away. I hope that tincture helps. Be Well GinaBen Allen <mjs_daddie wrote: Thank you very much for the info. I was in the health food store and did not find it. I found some Lobelia, but it said it is used for quiting smoking. I am now trying Jewelweed per recomendation of the store. But I will definetly check out this Sam Biser Book for future uses and if this Jewelweed does not work well I will try to find the Lobelia Weed and make this. I already have the Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar and the Vodka. Have you ever heard of Jewelweed and will it work good? They told me to give it 2 -3 days and it should be cleared up. Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: Hi, The lobelia I am talking about is not the decorative one, it is a weed. This is written in Sam Biser book: If cayenne is the King of herbs, this one is the Queen. Lobelia inflata A favorite of 19th century Master herbalist Samuel Thompson, who made it famous. It contains more active ingredients than any other herb except opium. Almost impossible to cultivate. Grows to a foot and a half high. Moves location year to year. Has tiny, slightly violet flowers and sometimes grows at the base of tree or in little open fields. Commercial tinctures are way to weak, and low dosages used are ineffective. this herb can save human beings in seconds when nothing else can help. I made my own, I learned this in Sam Biser book and it is extracted with 1/2 apple cider vinegar (Braggs) and 1/2 vodka. I order my herbs from Pacific Botanical you can get them at cost there and that is were Sam Biser book referred to get them. So from what this says I dont know if the commercial one is strong enough, but it is worth a try since you dont have time to make it. GinaRenee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote: Hi Ben, I'm not sure what Lobelia tincture is either butit would be better to try it based on Gina'srecommendation as someone who has used it than to usehydrocortisone creams. Many of those creams containaluminum. I am a big advocate of avoiding aluminumtoxicity, especially after my life threatening cancer.I am going to the health food store to check out thelobelia tincture too, myself, as I have been lookingfor a suitable alternative to the hydrocortisonecreams. I do grow lobelia in my flower gardens!!!And Gina, Thanks for the info!Blessings, Renee--- Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I made my own, but I am sure they have it at a> health food store. I would pick up the vinegar too.> > Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote:I have never> heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find> this at any health food or vitamin store? > > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote:> I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has> worked like a charm for them stopped the itching and> healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if> the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it> itself. I used Braggs brand.> > mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does anyone> have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of> Poison > Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin some> Aloe Gel on it > and it seems help for about an hour then the itch> starts again.> > Thanks, Ben> > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Not at all, Gina. I take everything in stride, in the spirit that it is intended. Having to face my own mortality with the cancer really changed my whole outlook on life as a survivor. Nothing bothers me any more because life is too short. Your message was informative and very graciously put! And you wouldn't believe how many weeds I have around my yard because they produce beautiful flowers! I love gardening and just being in the outdoors in general. Being next to nature I believe is the closest thing to being next to God that we can get, at least in this life! Blessings, Renee --- Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: > Hi Renee, > > Shoot, I hope I did not come off wrong when I said > Lobelia is a weed and not decorative. My writing may > sometimes come off not to gracious and I am truly > sorry if it seemed that way. > > Gina > > > Renee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote: > Hi Gina, > > My comment about growing lobelia in my flower > garden was just a bit of humor. I do truly value > this information, especially in regard to quitting > smoking, as I hope to investigate and use that info > to help people quit now. It really is a pretty > little flower though. I used it last year in my > hanging baskets, as I wanted a red, white and blue > arrangement. Lobelia was the only truly blue flower > I could find that would give me the cascading effect > I wanted in my hanging baskets. I'm interested in > finding out how the jewelweed works for Ben too, as > I am not familiar with that either. I always want to > learn! Thanks again for the info. It is valuable to > me and I'm sure to alot of others who come here > looking for answers. That is why we're all here, to > share and learn! > > Blessings, Renee > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: > Your welcome, I have no experience with jewelweed > BUT that does mean a thing. I have personally never > had poison ivy, others have that have been around > me. Lobelia is the herb for the lung ( the Indians > use to call it there wacky tabaky, it calms a person > done)and yes it does help you quit smoking it make > cigs taste terrible!!!! The unfortunate part about > Biser book, he only make so many and when he is done > with what he has they are no longer available. If > you do ever get your hands on his book you will see > what I mean, action packed with info. I have seen > his books once in a while on ebay the ones that I > have are Saving your Life with Cayenne & Laymen > Course on Killing Cancer. Where I get the herbs from > is > www.pacificbotanicals.com > you get them at cost but you are buying them one > pound at a time which for tinctures you need that. > But you will not believe the price difference. And > great quality too. Okay I can go on,on, on and on. > If you have anymore questions ask away. I hope that > tincture helps. > > Be Well > Gina > > Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote: > Thank you very much for the info. I was in the > health food store and did not find it. I found some > Lobelia, but it said it is used for quiting smoking. > I am now trying Jewelweed per recomendation of the > store. But I will definetly check out this Sam Biser > Book for future uses and if this Jewelweed does not > work well I will try to find the Lobelia Weed and > make this. I already have the Braggs Apple Cider > Vinegar and the Vodka. > > Have you ever heard of Jewelweed and will it work > good? They told me to give it 2 -3 days and it > should be cleared up. > > > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: > Hi, > The lobelia I am talking about is not the decorative > one, it is a weed. > This is written in Sam Biser book: > If cayenne is the King of herbs, this one is the > Queen. Lobelia inflata A favorite of 19th century > Master herbalist Samuel Thompson, who made it > famous. It contains more active ingredients than any > other herb except opium. Almost impossible to > cultivate. Grows to a foot and a half high. Moves > location year to year. Has tiny, slightly violet > flowers and sometimes grows at the base of tree or > in little open fields. Commercial tinctures are way > to weak, and low dosages used are ineffective. this > herb can save human beings in seconds when nothing > else can help. > I made my own, I learned this in Sam Biser book and > it is extracted with 1/2 apple cider vinegar > (Braggs) and 1/2 vodka. I order my herbs from > Pacific Botanical you can get them at cost there and > that is were Sam Biser book referred to get them. > So from what this says I dont know if the > commercial one is strong enough, but it is worth a > try since you dont have time to make it. > > Gina > Renee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote: > Hi Ben, > > I'm not sure what Lobelia tincture is either but > it would be better to try it based on Gina's > recommendation as someone who has used it than to > use > hydrocortisone creams. Many of those creams contain > aluminum. I am a big advocate of avoiding aluminum > toxicity, especially after my life threatening > cancer. > I am going to the health food store to check out the > lobelia tincture too, myself, as I have been looking > for a suitable alternative to the hydrocortisone > creams. I do grow lobelia in my flower gardens!!! > > And Gina, Thanks for the info! > > Blessings, Renee > > --- Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: > > > I made my own, but I am sure they have it at a > > health food store. I would pick up the vinegar > too. > > > > Ben Allen <mjs_daddie wrote:I have > never > > heard of Lobelia Tincture, Would I be able to find > > this at any health food or vitamin store? > > > > > > Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: > > I have had people used Lobelia tincture and it has > > worked like a charm for them stopped the itching > and > > healed it. The only thing that I always wonder if > > the apple cider vinegar that is in it helps it > > itself. I used Braggs brand. > > > > mjs_daddie <mjs_daddie wrote: Does > anyone > > have any ideas to clear up and stop the itch of > > Poison > > Ivy? It is driving me crazy! I have been puttin > some > > Aloe Gel on it > > and it seems help for about an hour then the itch > > starts again. > > > > Thanks, Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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