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I did a 6 day fast with a Herbal Colon Cleanse...really great...worth

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I mixed it myself out of herbs and activated charcoal/Psyllium

husk...you can buy it commercially...

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Kefir, I join Jo Jo in asking you for more details. Please explain what herbs you "mixed" and in what proportions. There are commercial cleanses available, i.e. from Vitamin World, Nature's Secret, and others. They are professionally formulated, and relatively inexpensive. Why did you not choose those for your cleanse? Were you following someone's protocol? If so, can you please the details and/or supply a reference? How did you happen to choose the time period of 6 days? What were you hoping to accomplish by doing the cleanse? What were your results? Frank kefir_king <kefir_king wrote: I mixed it myself out of herbs and activated charcoal/Psyllium husk...you

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Kefir, Thanks for responding. Until now, I'd never come across Dr Richard Schulze. Your info sent me on a search for more info. Schulze is quite a guy!! I ordered one of his books from Amazon. I'd like to discuss more with you on making up your own formulation instead of ordering from Schulze. I just finished 12 days on the Burroughs Master Cleanser, preceded by two days of water only fasting. Have you done the Master Cleanser? If so, how would you compare the results versus the Schulze protocol? My background in cleansing and fasting is as follows. My first exposure was on a whim, without the benefit of any prior research. I bought the Nature's Secret "Ultimate Cleanse" from a health food store, after hearing an infomercial on the radio. I had no prior expectations at that time. As it

turned out, the cleanse had an affect on my recently diagnosed hypertension. It was a real case of serendipity, because based on what my doctor told me, I had nothing to do but continue on BP meds the rest of my life. My BP dropped shortly after starting the cleanse. This enabled me to get off one of the three BP meds the doc had me on. Moreover, it showed me I'd gotten bad advice about having to stay on the BP meds the rest of my life. I started reading books on how to reverse hypertension naturally. I bought every supplement recommended by the books. My BP started moving lower, as I literally consumed supplements by the handful. It now appeared I might be able to eliminate all the BP meds. My next discovery was the Rice Diet. This was a diet used at Duke University starting back in the late 1930's, that was used to treat high BP when there were no BP meds.

By accident, I found a headed by a doc who specialized in hypertension. At Duke he'd interned under Dr Walter Kempner, the inventor of the Rice Diet. With Dr Grim's supervision through the , I got off the other two BP meds. That was in December, 2004. I haven't been on BP meds since that time. The next thing I realized was that I'd really only substituted one type of pill for another to treat my hypertension. That's when I started reading about fasting and the various illnesses it was used to treat, simply by allowing the body to heal itself. I saw this as hopefully a way to eliminate all the supplements I was taking. A year later, I did a 15 day water only fast. Before starting the fast, I eliminated all the supplements I was taking. By the end of the fast, my BP was down to an outstanding 115/65...without medication or supplements. I

still don't take the supplements, but after breaking the fast, my BP started creeping up. I'm still below 140/90 BP, which is the threshold for having to resume taking meds. This led me to start thinking about cleansing. I felt the water only fasting was too dangerous to do unsupervised. I saw the cleansing as possibly being a detoxing prep to be done prior to doing another extended water only fast. Following the 15 day fast, I fasted one day per week, even though I knew it wouldn't do much more than just give my body a rest from having to expend energy to digest food. When I did the Burroughs Master Cleanser, I had a long list of expectations of it, such as getting my BP down to optimum levels of something like 110/60, also reversing my prostate cancer, which is still active following both surgery and radiation, eliminating my arthritis and tendinitis pains,

etc. The cleanse didn't really help much on my goals, but it was still a very satisfying experience. I could see from my stools that the cleanser was working and removing old fecal matter from my colon and intestines. This was accompanied by a strong feeling of well being, by just knowing that I was really detoxing my body. I didn't get that feeling from my fast, because there were no bowel movements during the fast. Your post about the Schulze cleansing protocol came at a perfect time for me, as I was pondering my strategy on what to do next. I do know that some of the supplements I'd been taking must've been helping, because while I was taking them my BP was at optimum levels of 120/80. But I also knew a lot of the supplements were probably not doing any good. My diet has been mostly vegetarian, mostly raw for over a year...but with occasional

deviations back into animal products, and some junk food. From the information you've provided, I believe doing the Schulze colon cleanse will be one of my top priorities. I look forward to more information exchanges with you, and hopefully more participation by others in this group. Frank kefir_king <kefir_king wrote: Hi FrankMy formula is very similar to the one Dr Schulze and other herbalists who uses it..he is a master herbalist. I don't use any other formula because I know this one is the best...Apple pectinPsyllium seed husksBentonite clay (food grade)Ginger rootActivated Charcoal (food grade)I mixed equal amounts

of all except ginger root which obviously is very hot...use much less,maybe 20-20% of the others.You have to follow a very strict program with this formula, take it five times a day ( 1 teaspoon heap) in 8 oz glass of spring water or 1/2 1/2 apple juice, water. Shake vigorously and take it down quickly.do it on an empty stomach between meals...5 times a day for 6 days...if you eat solid food it is not as effective as going on a raw vegetable juice diet..pref organicNote..be careful because this formula swells inside your colon..don't overdo it otherwise your colon will get clogged up..it happened to me on day 6 so i had to do some work to flush it out..must drink 8 glasses of water minimum..don't eat anything for 1 hour after taking the formula...this formula is an intestinal vacuum cleaner..good luck , Frank Berveiler <frankshtn wrote:>>

Kefir,> > I join Jo Jo in asking you for more details.> > Please explain what herbs you "mixed" and in what proportions. There are commercial cleanses available, i.e. from Vitamin World, Nature's Secret, and others. They are professionally formulated, and relatively inexpensive. Why did you not choose those for your cleanse? Were you following someone's protocol? If so, can you please the details and/or supply a reference? How did you happen to choose the time period of 6 days?> > What were you hoping to accomplish by doing the cleanse? What were your results?> > Frank> > kefir_king <kefir_king wrote:> I mixed it myself out of herbs and activated charcoal/Psyllium > husk...you can buy it

commercially...> , JoJo 46580 > <jojo46580@> wrote:> >> > What brand did you use?> > Where did you purchase it?> > Or did you mix it/make it yourself?> > > > More information please! :-)> > > > Best Regards ~> > JoJo> > > > kefir_king <kefir_king@> wrote:> > I did a 6 day fast with a Herbal Colon Cleanse...really > great...worth > > trying> >

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I take suplements, but I dont recommend that you take a handfull if

suplements whether natural or med. The ones I take are a very simple

mineral/vit base. Not more then 3-4 a day max...preferably less. The

diet is much more important. Good quality organic fruits will provide

most of the vit you need and organic veg will provide the

minerals..think of vegtables as primarly Bio Mineral Converters and

Fruit as Bio Vitamin Converters.

anyway, here is a story i heard first hand...

A guy was taking suplements, and he was feeling great and getting

better and younger by the day. Then he decided to increase his

suplements and take every imaginable supment for everything he could

think off....well to cut the story short...he ended up in hospital...

, Frank Berveiler

<frankshtn wrote:

>

> Kefir,

>

> Thanks for responding.

>

> Until now, I'd never come across Dr Richard Schulze. Your info

sent me on a search for more info. Schulze is quite a guy!! I

ordered one of his books from Amazon. I'd like to discuss more with

you on making up your own formulation instead of ordering from

Schulze.

>

> I just finished 12 days on the Burroughs Master Cleanser,

preceded by two days of water only fasting. Have you done the Master

Cleanser? If so, how would you compare the results versus the

Schulze protocol?

>

> My background in cleansing and fasting is as follows. My first

exposure was on a whim, without the benefit of any prior research. I

bought the Nature's Secret " Ultimate Cleanse " from a health food

store, after hearing an infomercial on the radio. I had no prior

expectations at that time. As it turned out, the cleanse had an

affect on my recently diagnosed hypertension. It was a real case of

serendipity, because based on what my doctor told me, I had nothing

to do but continue on BP meds the rest of my life. My BP dropped

shortly after starting the cleanse. This enabled me to get off one

of the three BP meds the doc had me on. Moreover, it showed me I'd

gotten bad advice about having to stay on the BP meds the rest of my

life.

>

> I started reading books on how to reverse hypertension

naturally. I bought every supplement recommended by the books. My

BP started moving lower, as I literally consumed supplements by the

handful. It now appeared I might be able to eliminate all the BP

meds.

>

> My next discovery was the Rice Diet. This was a diet used at

Duke University starting back in the late 1930's, that was used to

treat high BP when there were no BP meds. By accident, I found a

headed by a doc who specialized in hypertension. At Duke

he'd interned under Dr Walter Kempner, the inventor of the Rice

Diet. With Dr Grim's supervision through the , I got off

the other two BP meds. That was in December, 2004. I haven't been

on BP meds since that time.

>

> The next thing I realized was that I'd really only substituted

one type of pill for another to treat my hypertension. That's when I

started reading about fasting and the various illnesses it was used

to treat, simply by allowing the body to heal itself. I saw this as

hopefully a way to eliminate all the supplements I was taking.

>

> A year later, I did a 15 day water only fast. Before starting

the fast, I eliminated all the supplements I was taking. By the end

of the fast, my BP was down to an outstanding 115/65...without

medication or supplements. I still don't take the supplements, but

after breaking the fast, my BP started creeping up. I'm still below

140/90 BP, which is the threshold for having to resume taking meds.

>

> This led me to start thinking about cleansing. I felt the water

only fasting was too dangerous to do unsupervised. I saw the

cleansing as possibly being a detoxing prep to be done prior to doing

another extended water only fast.

>

> Following the 15 day fast, I fasted one day per week, even though

I knew it wouldn't do much more than just give my body a rest from

having to expend energy to digest food.

>

> When I did the Burroughs Master Cleanser, I had a long list of

expectations of it, such as getting my BP down to optimum levels of

something like 110/60, also reversing my prostate cancer, which is

still active following both surgery and radiation, eliminating my

arthritis and tendinitis pains, etc.

>

> The cleanse didn't really help much on my goals, but it was still

a very satisfying experience. I could see from my stools that the

cleanser was working and removing old fecal matter from my colon and

intestines. This was accompanied by a strong feeling of well being,

by just knowing that I was really detoxing my body. I didn't get

that feeling from my fast, because there were no bowel movements

during the fast.

>

> Your post about the Schulze cleansing protocol came at a perfect

time for me, as I was pondering my strategy on what to do next. I do

know that some of the supplements I'd been taking must've been

helping, because while I was taking them my BP was at optimum levels

of 120/80. But I also knew a lot of the supplements were probably

not doing any good.

>

> My diet has been mostly vegetarian, mostly raw for over a

year...but with occasional deviations back into animal products, and

some junk food.

>

> From the information you've provided, I believe doing the Schulze

colon cleanse will be one of my top priorities.

>

> I look forward to more information exchanges with you, and

hopefully more participation by others in this group.

>

> Frank

>

>

>

>

>

> kefir_king <kefir_king wrote:

> Hi Frank

> My formula is very similar to the one Dr Schulze and other

herbalists

> who uses it..he is a master herbalist. I don't use any other

formula

> because I know this one is the best...

>

> Apple pectin

> Psyllium seed husks

> Bentonite clay (food grade)

> Ginger root

> Activated Charcoal (food grade)

>

> I mixed equal amounts of all except ginger root which obviously is

> very hot...use much less,maybe 20-20% of the others.

>

> You have to follow a very strict program with this formula, take it

> five times a day ( 1 teaspoon heap) in 8 oz glass of spring water

or

> 1/2 1/2 apple juice, water. Shake vigorously and take it down

> quickly.do it on an empty stomach between meals...5 times a day for

6

> days...if you eat solid food it is not as effective as going on a

raw

> vegetable juice diet..pref organic

> Note..be careful because this formula swells inside your

colon..don't

> overdo it otherwise your colon will get clogged up..it happened to

me

> on day 6 so i had to do some work to flush it out..must drink 8

> glasses of water minimum..don't eat anything for 1 hour after

taking

> the formula...this formula is an intestinal vacuum cleaner..good

luck

>

> , Frank Berveiler

> <frankshtn@> wrote:

> >

> > Kefir,

> >

> > I join Jo Jo in asking you for more details.

> >

> > Please explain what herbs you " mixed " and in what proportions.

> There are commercial cleanses available, i.e. from Vitamin World,

> Nature's Secret, and others. They are professionally formulated,

and

> relatively inexpensive. Why did you not choose those for your

> cleanse? Were you following someone's protocol? If so, can you

> please the details and/or supply a reference? How did you happen

to

> choose the time period of 6 days?

> >

> > What were you hoping to accomplish by doing the cleanse? What

> were your results?

> >

> > Frank

> >

> > kefir_king <kefir_king@> wrote:

> > I mixed it myself out of herbs and activated charcoal/Psyllium

> > husk...you can buy it commercially...

> > , JoJo 46580

> > <jojo46580@> wrote:

> > >

> > > What brand did you use?

> > > Where did you purchase it?

> > > Or did you mix it/make it yourself?

> > >

> > > More information please! :-)

> > >

> > > Best Regards ~

> > > JoJo

> > >

> > > kefir_king <kefir_king@> wrote:

> > > I did a 6 day fast with a Herbal Colon Cleanse...really

> > great...worth

> > > trying

> > >

>

>

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Kefir and All Others interested in the Dr Schulze cleanse, I'm thinking (and hoping) the version of the Schulze cleanse you use, can be combined with the Burroughs Master Cleanser, to create an "enhanced" Schulze cleanse and juice fast (lemon juice in lieu of vegetable juice). The Master Cleanser calls for drinking 6-12 ten oz glasses of leamonade per day containing the following ingredients freshly made in each glass: 2 tbsp lemon juice (approx 1/2 lemon), manually squeezed from fresh organic lemons, 2 tbsp Grade B organic maple syrup, and AT LEAST 1/10th tsp cayenne pepper (up to as much as can be tolerated) mixed in 10 oz purified water. I'm thinking this could simply be combined with the apple pectin, psyllium seed husks, bentonite clay (food grade), ginger root, and activated Charcoal (food grade). You mentioned you think the Schulze cleanse works

best when combinded with a juice fast rather than solid food. It seems to me the Master Cleanser would qualify as a juice fast. The rest of the Master Cleanser protocol calls for a daily salt water flush consisting of 2 tsp of uniodized sea salt dissolved in ONE QUART of warm purified water and quickly drunk in its entirety first thing in the morning on an empty stomach (to flush the GI tract of any "debris" loosened by the previous day's lemonade , but not evacuated by the previous day's BM's). Furthermore, if a large number of BM's aren't ocurring, drinking a cup of herbal laxative tea (Smooth Move or Get Regular are recommended brand names), at bed time, in addition to the SWF. From what you've said about the effectiveness of the Schulze cleanse, I think both the SWF and the HLT might be able to be eliminated. I'm hoping the lemonade

will qualify as a "juice fast" because I don't know anything about juice fasting, and don't have a juicer...YET! I estimated the calorie count of a single glass of lemonade to be about 110 calories (with vitamins and enzymes coming from the lemon juice and minerals coming from the maple syrup), and the macro nutrients being 98% carbs, 1% fat, and 1% protein. I'd appreciate all comments about this idea. Frankkefir_king <kefir_king wrot Hi FrankMy formula is very similar to the one Dr Schulze and other hebalists who uses it..he is a master herbalist. I dont use any other formula because I know this one is the best...Apple pectinPsyllium seed husksBentonite clay (food grade)Ginger rootActivated Charcoal (food grade)I

mixed equal amounts of all except ginger root which obivoiusly is very hot...use much less,maybe 20-20% of the others.YOu have to follow a very strict program with this formula, take it five times a day ( 1 teaspoon heap) in 8 oz glass of spring water or 1/2 1/2 apple jiuce, water. Shake vigourously and take it down quickly.do it on an empty stomach between meals...5 times a day for 6 days...if you eat solid food it is not as effective as going on a raw vegtable juice diet..pref organicNote..be carefull because this formula swells inside your colon..dont overdo it otherwise your colon will get clogged up..it happend to me on day 6 so i had to do some work to flush it out..must drink 8 glasses of water minimum..dont eat anything for 1 hour after taking the formula...this formula is an intestinal vacuum cleaner..good luck , Frank Berveiler <frankshtn

wrote:>> Kefir,> > I join Jo Jo in asking you for more details.> > Please explain what herbs you "mixed" and in what proportions. There are commercial cleanses available, i.e. from Vitamin World, Nature's Secret, and others. They are professionally formulated, and relatively inexpensive. Why did you not choose those for your cleanse? Were you following someone's protocol? If so, can you please the details and/or supply a reference? How did you happen to choose the time period of 6 days?> > What were you hoping to accomplish by doing the cleanse? What were your results?> > Frank> > kefir_king <kefir_king wrote:> I mixed it myself out of herbs and activated charcoal/Psyllium

> husk...you can buy it commercially...> , JoJo 46580 > <jojo46580@> wrote:> >> > What brand did you use?> > Where did you purchase it?> > Or did you mix it/make it yourself?> > > > More information please! :-)> > > > Best Regards ~> > JoJo> > > > kefir_king <kefir_king@> wrote:> > I did a 6 day fast with a Herbal Colon Cleanse...really > great...worth > > trying> > > > <a href="Join'>http://www.paperbackswap.com/index.php?> n=2 & r_by=jojo46580%40earthlink.net">Join our club and swap paperback

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