Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hi everyone. I hope to get advice from some experienced water fasters. I need to do a 20 day water fast to stop all bowel movements so that the tear in my anal canal can heal. I have had a severe anal fissure for almost 2 years. I got it from several months of undiagnosed Giardia which produced diarrhea. I rescue animals which is how I got Giardia. So now I know how to get rid of Giardia naturally but I did it too late. The diarrhea weakened the lining of the anoderm and now I have this lovely fissure. The pain from the fissure pretty much ruins your life. I hope having no bowel movements will fix it. I tried to do the 20 day water fast recently and had electrolyte problems. By day 3, my heart was beating irregular and my muscles started cramping up. My hand muscles were actually so cramped I had a hard time writing. I quickly drank fresh orange juice and the problem corrected itself in minutes, so it must have been a potassium deficiency. I think I drank too much water and washed out my electrolytes. I have done 5 day water fasts before with no problem, so I don't know what happened this last time. I drank distilled water with a tsp. VitaMineral Green mixed in thinking that would help provide some alkalinity to the distilled water. The distilled water makes me too acid and starts to burn my stomach if I do it without food for too long. This time I was thinking of doing the water fast with Zenergize tablets in my water which will add electrolytes such as potassium, magnesium, sodium, calcium. http://www.bevology.com/hydrate.html Also.... maybe by adding some baking soda and C Crystals to alkalize the distilled water? I have the book by Joel Fuhrman on how to do water fasting but he does not provide information on how to do a water fast that lasts longer than 3 days. I'd like to do this without medical supervision. So, when will bowel movements stop on an extended water fast? Because I think I need 10 days of no bowel movements at least for this to heal. I also thought of doing the Master Cleanse but I'm afraid it will keep the bowel movements happening. If I can do the Master Cleanse w/o getting bowel movements, that would obviosly be preferrable to a water fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 It sounds like your body didn't originally agree with the water fast. I can understand not wanting to go with the medical supervision, but it might be a wise choice in your case. If nothing else just have the blood and urine test done to check for those things that Joel Fuhrman mentions. I believe he had a chapter geared for medical professionals? If you know exactly what you want you may be able to avoid trying to convince doctors that a fast is a good thing. What I want to know is what was the natural way you finally found to cure Giardia??? Ryan From: vegan_animalloverDate: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:52:45 +0000 Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure Hi everyone. I hope to get advice from some experienced water fasters. I need to do a 20 day water fast to stop all bowel movements so that the tear in my anal canal can heal. I have had a severe anal fissure for almost 2 years. I got it from several months of undiagnosed Giardia which produced diarrhea. I rescue animals which is how I got Giardia. So now I know how to get rid of Giardia naturally but I did it too late. The diarrhea weakened the lining of the anoderm and now I have this lovely fissure. The pain from the fissure pretty much ruins your life. I hope having no bowel movements will fix it.I tried to do the 20 day water fast recently and had electrolyte problems. By day 3, my heart was beating irregular and my muscles started cramping up. My hand muscles were actually so cramped I had a hard time writing. I quickly drank fresh orange juice and the problem corrected itself in minutes, so it must have been a potassium deficiency. I think I drank too much water and washed out my electrolytes. I have done 5 day water fasts before with no problem, so I don't know what happened this last time. I drank distilled water with a tsp. VitaMineral Green mixed in thinking that would help provide some alkalinity to the distilled water. The distilled water makes me too acid and starts to burn my stomach if I do it without food for too long. This time I was thinking of doing the water fast with Zenergize tablets in my water which will add electrolytes such as potassium, magnesium, sodium, calcium. http://www.bevology.com/hydrate.htmlAlso.... maybe by adding some baking soda and C Crystals to alkalize the distilled water?I have the book by Joel Fuhrman on how to do water fasting but he does not provide information on how to do a water fast that lasts longer than 3 days. I'd like to do this without medical supervision.So, when will bowel movements stop on an extended water fast? Because I think I need 10 days of no bowel movements at least for this to heal.I also thought of doing the Master Cleanse but I'm afraid it will keep the bowel movements happening. If I can do the Master Cleanse w/o getting bowel movements, that would obviosly be preferrable to a water fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Hey Ryan, Thanks for the info. I'm guessing that I will feel an electrolyte problem before it becomes too serious, plus the electrolyte water should protect me? I called the one fasting expert naturopath in my area and he seems to have disappeared. There is no one else to call unless I do it long distance it seems. Also I am afraid of needles for a blood test! Have you done the extended water fast? If so, when did bowel movements stop? I just spoke to some one who did a 14 day juice fast to cure his anal fissure and he says his bowel movements stopped on days 4-5. He says he thinks I should do vegetable juice only, no citrus. Here's how to rid yourself of Giardia (I think I also had Coccidia)... Symptoms of Giardia are severe burning diarrhea for the first few days. The egg cysts are shed by any infected animal. The cysts are so small they can be inhaled or even enter through your eyes if you touch your hands to your eyes or they blow into your eyes or nose if you are near infected soil or water. The cysts survive the stomach acids, then hatch/ grapple onto your small intestine. Your bowels will make gurgling sounds as long as you have this. Then the parasite will multiply and linger in your intestines forever in cysts and stages after that. It will cause every bowel movement to be loose, like a pile of chewed but undigested food. You will never see Giardia or the cysts, it is too small..but you will have noticeable loose bowel movements forever until you get rid of it. If I can warn any one about this, don't let this condition go on for too long or you could end up with a debilitating excruciatingly painful anal fissure like me! I didn't know I had Giaradia because I just wasn't paying attention. It happened so slowly that I soon thought it was normal to have loose bowel movements. The Giardia protozoa disrupt small intestine digestion until you get rid of them. The parasite also compromises your immune strength so herpes outbreaks will be frequent. So here's how to get rid of ANY internal parasite: I can now kill this parasite in 12 hours! (I caught it AGAIN 3 months later, and rid myself of it as soon as the symptoms started) Black Walnut hull (green hulls) tincture Wormwood capsules Clove capsules http://drclarkia.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=71 Follow the full 14 day instruction program to do a full parasite cleanse, it comes with the kit. This is the only company that does it right with GREEN black walnut hulls. I spent weeks looking for a company that provides the exact ingredients per the Hulda Clark book, "The Cure for all Diseases". Trust me, this works and you can spare yourself taking some toxic prescription drugs. I was told I need surgery for this anal fissure but I am a person who always seeks natural healing first so I hope this next fast will work. Plus I don't have $2,500 to cough up for the dilatation surgery! Ryan Carson <revcarson Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:38:34 AMRE: Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure It sounds like your body didn't originally agree with the water fast. I can understand not wanting to go with the medical supervision, but it might be a wise choice in your case. If nothing else just have the blood and urine test done to check for those things that Joel Fuhrman mentions. I believe he had a chapter geared for medical professionals? If you know exactly what you want you may be able to avoid trying to convince doctors that a fast is a good thing. What I want to know is what was the natural way you finally found to cure Giardia??? Ryan fasting-health- forum@ s.comvegan_animallover@ Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:52:45 +0000[fasting-health- forum] Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure Hi everyone. I hope to get advice from some experienced water fasters. I need to do a 20 day water fast to stop all bowel movements so that the tear in my anal canal can heal. I have had a severe anal fissure for almost 2 years. I got it from several months of undiagnosed Giardia which produced diarrhea. I rescue animals which is how I got Giardia. So now I know how to get rid of Giardia naturally but I did it too late. The diarrhea weakened the lining of the anoderm and now I have this lovely fissure. The pain from the fissure pretty much ruins your life. I hope having no bowel movements will fix it.I tried to do the 20 day water fast recently and had electrolyte problems. By day 3, my heart was beating irregular and my muscles started cramping up. My hand muscles were actually so cramped I had a hard time writing. I quickly drank fresh orange juice and the problem corrected itself in minutes, so it must have been a potassium deficiency. I think I drank too much water and washed out my electrolytes. I have done 5 day water fasts before with no problem, so I don't know what happened this last time. I drank distilled water with a tsp. VitaMineral Green mixed in thinking that would help provide some alkalinity to the distilled water. The distilled water makes me too acid and starts to burn my stomach if I do it without food for too long. This time I was thinking of doing the water fast with Zenergize tablets in my water which will add electrolytes such as potassium, magnesium, sodium, calcium. http://www.bevology .com/hydrate. htmlAlso.... maybe by adding some baking soda and C Crystals to alkalize the distilled water?I have the book by Joel Fuhrman on how to do water fasting but he does not provide information on how to do a water fast that lasts longer than 3 days. I'd like to do this without medical supervision.So, when will bowel movements stop on an extended water fast? Because I think I need 10 days of no bowel movements at least for this to heal.I also thought of doing the Master Cleanse but I'm afraid it will keep the bowel movements happening. If I can do the Master Cleanse w/o getting bowel movements, that would obviosly be preferrable to a water fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks for replying, that makes sense about the parasite cleanse. One thing to watch out for if doing a Master Cleanser is that if you aren't taking an herbal laxative and having bowel movements, you can reabsorb the stuff and end up getting pretty sick. Also I have known of skin breakouts that look like measles when the skin has to become the organ of elimination from lack of bowel activity. With a water fast your body processes the stuff fast enough that you don't necessarily need colonics, enemas, or laxatives. Not sure if with vegetable juice fasts if you will avoid the bm's like you want to, but I do know they would be better than a Master Cleanse because they don't dump toxins at such an extent. If whatver you end up doing is without the bowel movements, you might look for a spa with a far infrared sauna. It would be good to sweat some of the crud out to help keep you feeling clear and happy. Good luck, please report back of your success! -Ryan humblebee.com From: vegan_animalloverDate: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:09:10 -0800Re: Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure Hey Ryan, Thanks for the info. I'm guessing that I will feel an electrolyte problem before it becomes too serious, plus the electrolyte water should protect me? I called the one fasting expert naturopath in my area and he seems to have disappeared. There is no one else to call unless I do it long distance it seems. Also I am afraid of needles for a blood test! Have you done the extended water fast? If so, when did bowel movements stop? I just spoke to some one who did a 14 day juice fast to cure his anal fissure and he says his bowel movements stopped on days 4-5. He says he thinks I should do vegetable juice only, no citrus. Here's how to rid yourself of Giardia (I think I also had Coccidia)... Symptoms of Giardia are severe burning diarrhea for the first few days. The egg cysts are shed by any infected animal. The cysts are so small they can be inhaled or even enter through your eyes if you touch your hands to your eyes or they blow into your eyes or nose if you are near infected soil or water. The cysts survive the stomach acids, then hatch/ grapple onto your small intestine. Your bowels will make gurgling sounds as long as you have this. Then the parasite will multiply and linger in your intestines forever in cysts and stages after that. It will cause every bowel movement to be loose, like a pile of chewed but undigested food. You will never see Giardia or the cysts, it is too small..but you will have noticeable loose bowel movements forever until you get rid of it. If I can warn any one about this, don't let this condition go on for too long or you could end up with a debilitating excruciatingly painful anal fissure like me! I didn't know I had Giaradia because I just wasn't paying attention. It happened so slowly that I soon thought it was normal to have loose bowel movements. The Giardia protozoa disrupt small intestine digestion until you get rid of them. The parasite also compromises your immune strength so herpes outbreaks will be frequent. So here's how to get rid of ANY internal parasite: I can now kill this parasite in 12 hours! (I caught it AGAIN 3 months later, and rid myself of it as soon as the symptoms started) Black Walnut hull (green hulls) tincture Wormwood capsules Clove capsules http://drclarkia.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=71 Follow the full 14 day instruction program to do a full parasite cleanse, it comes with the kit. This is the only company that does it right with GREEN black walnut hulls. I spent weeks looking for a company that provides the exact ingredients per the Hulda Clark book, "The Cure for all Diseases". Trust me, this works and you can spare yourself taking some toxic prescription drugs. I was told I need surgery for this anal fissure but I am a person who always seeks natural healing first so I hope this next fast will work. Plus I don't have $2,500 to cough up for the dilatation surgery! Ryan Carson <revcarson (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 1:38:34 AMRE: Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure It sounds like your body didn't originally agree with the water fast. I can understand not wanting to go with the medical supervision, but it might be a wise choice in your case. If nothing else just have the blood and urine test done to check for those things that Joel Fuhrman mentions. I believe he had a chapter geared for medical professionals? If you know exactly what you want you may be able to avoid trying to convince doctors that a fast is a good thing. What I want to know is what was the natural way you finally found to cure Giardia??? Ryan fasting-health- forum@ s.comvegan_animallover@ Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:52:45 +0000[fasting-health- forum] Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure Hi everyone. I hope to get advice from some experienced water fasters. I need to do a 20 day water fast to stop all bowel movements so that the tear in my anal canal can heal. I have had a severe anal fissure for almost 2 years. I got it from several months of undiagnosed Giardia which produced diarrhea. I rescue animals which is how I got Giardia. So now I know how to get rid of Giardia naturally but I did it too late. The diarrhea weakened the lining of the anoderm and now I have this lovely fissure. The pain from the fissure pretty much ruins your life. I hope having no bowel movements will fix it.I tried to do the 20 day water fast recently and had electrolyte problems. By day 3, my heart was beating irregular and my muscles started cramping up. My hand muscles were actually so cramped I had a hard time writing. I quickly drank fresh orange juice and the problem corrected itself in minutes, so it must have been a potassium deficiency. I think I drank too much water and washed out my electrolytes. I have done 5 day water fasts before with no problem, so I don't know what happened this last time. I drank distilled water with a tsp. VitaMineral Green mixed in thinking that would help provide some alkalinity to the distilled water. The distilled water makes me too acid and starts to burn my stomach if I do it without food for too long. This time I was thinking of doing the water fast with Zenergize tablets in my water which will add electrolytes such as potassium, magnesium, sodium, calcium. http://www.bevology .com/hydrate. htmlAlso.... maybe by adding some baking soda and C Crystals to alkalize the distilled water?I have the book by Joel Fuhrman on how to do water fasting but he does not provide information on how to do a water fast that lasts longer than 3 days. I'd like to do this without medical supervision.So, when will bowel movements stop on an extended water fast? Because I think I need 10 days of no bowel movements at least for this to heal.I also thought of doing the Master Cleanse but I'm afraid it will keep the bowel movements happening. If I can do the Master Cleanse w/o getting bowel movements, that would obviosly be preferrable to a water fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Wow, thanks for that additional info Ryan. Based on your warning, I'm thinking about trying the Master Cleanse at half dose, a watered down version so that the no bowel movements will be not such a problem. Thanks for the sauna idea to detox through my skin, now that sounds interesting! I also thought about epsom salt baths.Also I found the parts in Fuhrman's book that I missed. He explains that if I had a potassium deficiency, I would have been suddenly very weak and I wasn't. I now think it may have been a calcium deficiency brought on by the distilled (acidic) water. This makes sense because low calcium levels cause muscles to cramp and irregular heartbeat and that's what I experienced. The electrolytes, minerals, vitamins in the master cleanse would prevent that from happening by keeping me alkaline rather than acid. Shelagh Ryan Carson <revcarson Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 1:05:30 AMRE: Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure Thanks for replying, that makes sense about the parasite cleanse. One thing to watch out for if doing a Master Cleanser is that if you aren't taking an herbal laxative and having bowel movements, you can reabsorb the stuff and end up getting pretty sick. Also I have known of skin breakouts that look like measles when the skin has to become the organ of elimination from lack of bowel activity. With a water fast your body processes the stuff fast enough that you don't necessarily need colonics, enemas, or laxatives. Not sure if with vegetable juice fasts if you will avoid the bm's like you want to, but I do know they would be better than a Master Cleanse because they don't dump toxins at such an extent. If whatver you end up doing is without the bowel movements, you might look for a spa with a far infrared sauna. It would be good to sweat some of the crud out to help keep you feeling clear and happy. Good luck, please report back of your success! -Ryanhumblebee.com fasting-health- forum@ s.comvegan_animallover@ Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:09:10 -0800Re: [fasting-health- forum] Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure Hey Ryan, Thanks for the info. I'm guessing that I will feel an electrolyte problem before it becomes too serious, plus the electrolyte water should protect me? I called the one fasting expert naturopath in my area and he seems to have disappeared. There is no one else to call unless I do it long distance it seems. Also I am afraid of needles for a blood test! Have you done the extended water fast? If so, when did bowel movements stop? I just spoke to some one who did a 14 day juice fast to cure his anal fissure and he says his bowel movements stopped on days 4-5. He says he thinks I should do vegetable juice only, no citrus. Here's how to rid yourself of Giardia (I think I also had Coccidia)... Symptoms of Giardia are severe burning diarrhea for the first few days. The egg cysts are shed by any infected animal. The cysts are so small they can be inhaled or even enter through your eyes if you touch your hands to your eyes or they blow into your eyes or nose if you are near infected soil or water. The cysts survive the stomach acids, then hatch/ grapple onto your small intestine. Your bowels will make gurgling sounds as long as you have this. Then the parasite will multiply and linger in your intestines forever in cysts and stages after that. It will cause every bowel movement to be loose, like a pile of chewed but undigested food. You will never see Giardia or the cysts, it is too small..but you will have noticeable loose bowel movements forever until you get rid of it. If I can warn any one about this, don't let this condition go on for too long or you could end up with a debilitating excruciatingly painful anal fissure like me! I didn't know I had Giaradia because I just wasn't paying attention. It happened so slowly that I soon thought it was normal to have loose bowel movements. The Giardia protozoa disrupt small intestine digestion until you get rid of them. The parasite also compromises your immune strength so herpes outbreaks will be frequent. So here's how to get rid of ANY internal parasite: I can now kill this parasite in 12 hours! (I caught it AGAIN 3 months later, and rid myself of it as soon as the symptoms started) Black Walnut hull (green hulls) tincture Wormwood capsules Clove capsules http://drclarkia. com/store/ comersus_ viewItem. asp?idProduct= 71 Follow the full 14 day instruction program to do a full parasite cleanse, it comes with the kit. This is the only company that does it right with GREEN black walnut hulls. I spent weeks looking for a company that provides the exact ingredients per the Hulda Clark book, "The Cure for all Diseases". Trust me, this works and you can spare yourself taking some toxic prescription drugs. I was told I need surgery for this anal fissure but I am a person who always seeks natural healing first so I hope this next fast will work. Plus I don't have $2,500 to cough up for the dilatation surgery! Ryan Carson <revcarson (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>fasting-health- forum@ s.comSunday, January 4, 2009 1:38:34 AMRE: [fasting-health- forum] Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure It sounds like your body didn't originally agree with the water fast. I can understand not wanting to go with the medical supervision, but it might be a wise choice in your case. If nothing else just have the blood and urine test done to check for those things that Joel Fuhrman mentions. I believe he had a chapter geared for medical professionals? If you know exactly what you want you may be able to avoid trying to convince doctors that a fast is a good thing. What I want to know is what was the natural way you finally found to cure Giardia??? Ryan fasting-health- forum@ s.comvegan_animallover@ Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:52:45 +0000[fasting-health- forum] Need info on extended water fast, to cure anal fissure Hi everyone. I hope to get advice from some experienced water fasters. I need to do a 20 day water fast to stop all bowel movements so that the tear in my anal canal can heal. I have had a severe anal fissure for almost 2 years. I got it from several months of undiagnosed Giardia which produced diarrhea. I rescue animals which is how I got Giardia. So now I know how to get rid of Giardia naturally but I did it too late. The diarrhea weakened the lining of the anoderm and now I have this lovely fissure. The pain from the fissure pretty much ruins your life. I hope having no bowel movements will fix it.I tried to do the 20 day water fast recently and had electrolyte problems. By day 3, my heart was beating irregular and my muscles started cramping up. My hand muscles were actually so cramped I had a hard time writing. I quickly drank fresh orange juice and the problem corrected itself in minutes, so it must have been a potassium deficiency. I think I drank too much water and washed out my electrolytes. I have done 5 day water fasts before with no problem, so I don't know what happened this last time. I drank distilled water with a tsp. VitaMineral Green mixed in thinking that would help provide some alkalinity to the distilled water. The distilled water makes me too acid and starts to burn my stomach if I do it without food for too long. This time I was thinking of doing the water fast with Zenergize tablets in my water which will add electrolytes such as potassium, magnesium, sodium, calcium. http://www.bevology .com/hydrate. htmlAlso.... maybe by adding some baking soda and C Crystals to alkalize the distilled water?I have the book by Joel Fuhrman on how to do water fasting but he does not provide information on how to do a water fast that lasts longer than 3 days. I'd like to do this without medical supervision.So, when will bowel movements stop on an extended water fast? Because I think I need 10 days of no bowel movements at least for this to heal.I also thought of doing the Master Cleanse but I'm afraid it will keep the bowel movements happening. If I can do the Master Cleanse w/o getting bowel movements, that would obviosly be preferrable to a water fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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