Guest guest Posted February 29, 2000 Report Share Posted February 29, 2000 Sheesh! Mary Ann, you really need to connect up with a Naturopathic Doctor in your area. Being a Scientologist/Dianeticist and an hard-core Herbalist, I am absolutely, unequivocally antipathetic towards Psychiatric drugs; especially Prozac and Ritalin. Would I advise you to quit taking these drugs you are ingesting? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! I am not stupid enough to set myself up for a lawsuit by recommending you go against what your Medical doctor/Psychiatrist has ordered (advised) you to do, even though I personally feel and have the opinion that Prozac, Ritalin etc. ad nauseum, are the personal bane of human existence on this planet. This post will probably not win me any friends, but frankly my dear, I don't really give a damn. I have personally seen too many lives (over 2,000 cases) absolutely destroyed (in the name of health) by this vile cult called Psychiatry. Medical doctors are only a little bit better, and that is on an individual basis only. I recently read an article that Medical Doctors were the number one cause of death in the US today. Shucks, blow a little steam and you really do feel better. Thanks for getting me going. I needed that. Best regards, Ian PS. Mary Ann, if you really are serious about natural health, connect up with a Naturopath in your area. Mary Ann wrote: > Mary Ann <maryann23_1977 > > One more question... > > I take Prozac for depression. I have struggled with > depression for about 15 years. I used to take St > John's Wort and it worked well. Then I got pregnant > and my OB switched me to perscription antidepressants > (first Welbutrin then Paxil) because he said he didn't > know if SJW was safe during pregnancy. Now I also have > obsessive compulsve disorder (look it up on the > net--it's really weird and hard to live with at times > ). The postpartum time is really awful for me > because the depression and OCD is REALLY BAD. So I had > the baby 7 weeks ago and my OB put me on 30 mg of > Prozac a day in an attempt to ward off the impending > depression and such. I have been taking it for 5 > weeks. I inittially felt better, now I am having some > of the same postpartum depression/postpartum psychosis > symptoms I have had with my other babies. I feel > depressed, the obsessive compulsive disorder is VERY > bad, (obsessive and disturbing thoughts/images in my > mind that keep coming and wont go away) I have an ever > present sense of dread/doom, I feel afraid I am going > nuts/afraid of the obsessive thoughts (in this > disorder you cannot make them go away, they stick in > your thoughts and you can't control them), I am > usually afraid, have paranoia and panic attacks... In > general I think the Prozac isn't working plus I have > racing thoughts which I know Prozac can cause but it > als may be because I take Ma Huang. The Prozac is > supposed to help depression and specifically it is > used to treat OCD but it's not helping me. I have an > appt with a psychiatrist on 3/30, that's the earliest > I could get that my insurance would cover (they do NOT > cover naturopaths etc, I checked *frown*). I don't > know if the Prozac is making me worse and everyone I > ask says do NOT stop taking it without asking a dr. > But I don't have that much faith in drs!!! I am > thinking about quitting and going back to St John's > Wort...but I don't want to have a bad " episode " . I am > confused. Any thoughts??? Thanks! > > ===== > Mary Ann ~~~~the vegan, holistic minded, > natural living, stay at home mom and > proud attachment parent! > > " If I knew the way...I would take you home... " > ~~~The Grateful Dead > > > Talk to your friends online with Messenger. > http://im. > > ------ > Show your style! Choose from 6 great card designs when you > apply for Capital One's 9.9% Fixed APR Visa Platinum. > http://click./1/1894/2/_/498267/_/951777943/ > ------ > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not doctors although doctors are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here do so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice from list members, > and by accepting any products from Organic Solutions, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > Organic Solutions free of any liability. > Organic Solutions 1844 Springtime Ave., Clearwater FL 33755 > Phone: 727-447-6863 FAX: 727-447-6491 > e-mail: ian_shillington [This message contained attachments] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2000 Report Share Posted March 2, 2000 Surprisingly, NDs are not that expensive. You should know where you stand within a couple of visits. Check your yellow pages or check for ads in your local healthfood store. These are the places I would look. Best regards, Ian Mary Ann wrote: > Mary Ann <maryann23_1977 > > LOL Ian--take a deep cleansing breath! (just kidding). > > Thank you so much for giving it to me straight. How > can a hook up with a Naturopathic dr without going > broke?? My insurance co says they do not cover any > " alternative " practitioners, just " licensed MDs " . > Jeez... > > Any advice would be appreciated > Mary Ann > > --- Ian Shillington <ian_shillington > wrote: > > Sheesh! Mary Ann, you really need to connect up > > with a Naturopathic Doctor in your > > area. > > > > Being a Scientologist/Dianeticist and an hard-core > > Herbalist, I am absolutely, > > unequivocally antipathetic towards Psychiatric > > drugs; especially Prozac and > > Ritalin. > > > > Would I advise you to quit taking these drugs you > > are ingesting? ABSOLUTELY > > NOT!!! I am not stupid enough to set myself up for > > a lawsuit by recommending you > > go against what your Medical doctor/Psychiatrist has > > ordered (advised) you to do, > > even though I personally feel and have the opinion > > that Prozac, Ritalin etc. ad > > nauseum, are the personal bane of human existence on > > this planet. > > > > This post will probably not win me any friends, but > > frankly my dear, I don't really > > give a damn. I have personally seen too many lives > > (over 2,000 cases) absolutely > > destroyed (in the name of health) by this vile cult > > called Psychiatry. Medical > > doctors are only a little bit better, and that is on > > an individual basis only. I > > recently read an article that Medical Doctors were > > the number one cause of death in > > the US today. > > > > Shucks, blow a little steam and you really do feel > > better. Thanks for getting me > > going. I needed that. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ian > > > > PS. Mary Ann, if you really are serious about > > natural health, connect up with a > > Naturopath in your area. > > > > > > Mary Ann wrote: > > > > > Mary Ann <maryann23_1977 > > > > > > One more question... > > > > > > I take Prozac for depression. I have struggled > > with > > > depression for about 15 years. I used to take St > > > John's Wort and it worked well. Then I got > > pregnant > > > and my OB switched me to perscription > > antidepressants > > > (first Welbutrin then Paxil) because he said he > > didn't > > > know if SJW was safe during pregnancy. Now I also > > have > > > obsessive compulsve disorder (look it up on the > > > net--it's really weird and hard to live with at > > times > > > ). The postpartum time is really awful for me > > > because the depression and OCD is REALLY BAD. So I > > had > > > the baby 7 weeks ago and my OB put me on 30 mg of > > > Prozac a day in an attempt to ward off the > > impending > > > depression and such. I have been taking it for 5 > > > weeks. I inittially felt better, now I am having > > some > > > of the same postpartum depression/postpartum > > psychosis > > > symptoms I have had with my other babies. I feel > > > depressed, the obsessive compulsive disorder is > > VERY > > > bad, (obsessive and disturbing thoughts/images in > > my > > > mind that keep coming and wont go away) I have an > > ever > > > present sense of dread/doom, I feel afraid I am > > going > > > nuts/afraid of the obsessive thoughts (in this > > > disorder you cannot make them go away, they stick > > in > > > your thoughts and you can't control them), I am > > > usually afraid, have paranoia and panic attacks... > > In > > > general I think the Prozac isn't working plus I > > have > > > racing thoughts which I know Prozac can cause but > > it > > > als may be because I take Ma Huang. The Prozac is > > > supposed to help depression and specifically it is > > > used to treat OCD but it's not helping me. I have > > an > > > appt with a psychiatrist on 3/30, that's the > > earliest > > > I could get that my insurance would cover (they do > > NOT > > > cover naturopaths etc, I checked *frown*). I don't > > > know if the Prozac is making me worse and everyone > > I > > > ask says do NOT stop taking it without asking a > > dr. > > > But I don't have that much faith in drs!!! I am > > > thinking about quitting and going back to St > > John's > > > Wort...but I don't want to have a bad " episode " . I > > am > > > confused. Any thoughts??? Thanks! > > > > > > ===== > > > Mary Ann ~~~~the vegan, holistic minded, > > > natural living, stay at home mom and > > > proud attachment parent! > > > > > > " If I knew the way...I would take you home... " > > > ~~~The Grateful Dead > > > > > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Messenger. > > > http://im. > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > Show your style! Choose from 6 great card designs > > when you > > > apply for Capital One's 9.9% Fixed APR Visa > > Platinum. > > > > > > http://click./1/1894/2/_/498267/_/951777943/ > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the > > following: > > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician > > before using any natural remedy. > > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be > > your own physician and to > > > prescribe for your own health. > > > We are not doctors although doctors are welcome to > > post here as long as > > > they behave themselves. > > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are > > exactly that, and any person > > > following the advice of anyone posting here do so > > at their own risk. > > > It is up to you to educate yourself. 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