Guest guest Posted September 15, 1999 Report Share Posted September 15, 1999 > Tonight in class we learned that the occurance of some migranes attacks may be lessened by working the suboccipital muscles along both left and right sides throughly. And, concentrating on the suboccipital ridge and the nuchal line in addition to the laminar grove muscles. Working longitudinally. Hopefully you can find a therapist who can work this area properly and throughly enough that your headaches will not come around so often. Be Well, david. =========== here are 9 messages in this issue. > >Topics in today's digest: > > 1. category4 storm > Songwrit1 > 2. Re: category4 storm > REDTAIL29 > 3. Re: Digest Number 109 > Songwrit1 > 4. Reply to Crow..... > Frank Thompson <pamela4848 > 5. Re: introduction > Caroline Abreu <crow > 6. Re: Raven & MS > Caroline Abreu <crow > 7. Pamela > " Juniper Thyme " <juniper.thyme > 8. Re: introduction > REDTAIL29 > 9. Re: introduction > Caroline Abreu <crow > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > >Message: 1 > Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:03:46 EDT > Songwrit1 >category4 storm > >Good morning list friends! > I know this has nothing at all to do with bodywork, but here goes. >Hurricane Floyd is headed right at the town where I live. On the report I >read this morning, it said that the storm was so large that Andrew (who >killed 26 people and left 160k homeless) could fit into the eye of this >storm. The words " catastrophic results " caught my eye. > I know there is enough collective conciousness in this group of folk to >ward off this storm. For those of you who will, please send protective energy >to those of us living in the coastal areas. No matter what your religious >beliefs and backgrounds, prayer works. Thank you all so much...blessings, Song > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > >Message: 2 > Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:12:18 EDT > REDTAIL29 >Re: category4 storm > >song you and all the others on the coast are in my prayers today. DIANE > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > >Message: 3 > Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:16:39 EDT > Songwrit1 >Re: Digest Number 109 > >Raven, I don't know anything about MS or what the symptoms are or any of >that, but I do recognise a sister in distress. All I can do is send you >energy and pray. Sometimes it is a comfort to know you are not alone. >Blessings.....Song > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > >Message: 4 > Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:58:29 -0600 > Frank Thompson <pamela4848 >Reply to Crow..... > > >Crow wrote: >> Migraine is definitely a stress related syndrome, in addition to, in >> many people, an allergic reaction. Do you get " auras " before your >> headaches? In other words, do you experience anything before the >> headache that tells you the headache is coming? What symptoms are >> they? > >I don't get auras I get I small dot of flashing light in one eye which >turns in to a long streak of strobe light across my vision for about 20 >minutes. When it's over, I get a migraine. So when I begin seeing this >light I hurry and take my medication 'Imetrix' or 'Migranol NS'. If it >is too late I have Lortab one hand which I don't like having due to my >recent dependence Ultram, which is a synthetic opiate. I get migraines >1-2 monthly, tension headaches 1-2 weekly. Today is my first day to >learn about biofeedback after my therapist appointment. I have three >sessions scheduled, one week apart. I realize that I 'internalize' my >own and others problems. I am beginning to realize that it is I causing >my headaches, but haven't learned what to change or how to change. My >inner spirit is saying to be patient, that it will come. > >> Personally, I would encourage you to avoid substituting your previous >> addiction with another oral addiction; in other words, do not take >> herbs to relieve your tension from the loss of the pills. > >This is very interesting because about 4 days being off the medication I >discovered Valerian Root, thinking this would be a good substitution. I >practically swallowed half the bottle in a period of 4-6 hours and awoke >the next morning having a hallucination of seeing a black spider on my >bed. <I can't believe I am being this open and honest, but I need much >help and advice to get well>. Needless to say, I no longer take it. And >you are also right about substituting another my addiction with another. >It's as if I have this radar on top of my head 'searching' out another >addiction. It started in high school/college with food, then >chocolate,<4-5 large bags of kisses/weekly> then diet coke,<liters and >liters> then shopping and now this medication. I live a strong moral >life with values. I have often wondered what addiction I would have had >otherwise. > >Instead, >> focus more on body movement, psychological tension relievers, stress >> reduction therapies and most importantly, a balanced diet, lots of >> water and plenty of rest, including naps if you need them. > >Body movement, could you explain? Would the psychological tension >reliever be biofeedback? My body and soul was screaming for fresh water! > The last 4-5 days I have only had 1-2 cans/daily of diet coke, and have >been drinking lots of water. It's not only helping my body but my mental >state of releasing another addiction. > >Thank you so much Crow, for your wonderful advice and assistance. I am >truly open to anything/everything that will help me put harmony and peace >into my body, mind and soul. I fear it is going to be a long while in >learning and changing and sometimes wonder if it is at all possible. >Although, today I am so much better then I was 4 weeks ago, which is very >encouraging. In my prayers last night I thanked my God for allowing me >to go through this trial with the medication because I see that it was >this trial, painful as it was/is, it brought me to begin to search out >who I really am and begin changing and growing. > > > " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " >I am trying..... > >~Pamela > > > > >_________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. >Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > >Message: 5 > Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:42:43 -0400 > Caroline Abreu <crow >Re: introduction > >redtail29 wrote: >> >> Hi my name is diane Im new to onelist. I am 44 year old. I have been involed >> with doing hyonotherapy and bioenergentics for about a year. I had a rough >> chilhood (who hasnt?) I have manged to shut off most of my emotions and >> feelings,, thru addications. Which i have let go of, and am now working on >> getting them back. I do alot of vibrating ,hitting and fake crying. I have to >> force these emotions. i am just acting part of the time. but it is a start.i >> am able to look people in the eye alot more. i have a hard time not judging >> myself while doing thes excersises. It tough to stop the vioce telling how >> stupid i look or sound. i have a very supportive therapist. who does some of >> these things along with me so i dont feel so stupid. interested in hearing >> more people experiences >> DI >> > >Diane, have you learned how to reframe your inner dialog, so that you >can create positive affirmations from your negative voices? It is so >important to feed yourself the " good food " of compliments and >reinforcement when you are undergoing therapy. > >It is also vital to realize that ALL EMOTIONS ARE GOOD. We tend to >have judgement about emotions, thinking that things like joy, and >love, and happiness are all good, and that sadness, anger, etc are >bad. Well, newsflash, people, we have to get real with ourselves; we >are not made of spun sugar and candle wax... sometimes we have to >experience the dips as well as the swells. > >Know too that you can fake laugh just like you can fake cry; in " 12 >stepping " that is called " Fake it 'til you make it " and it is very >effective in personal mood and attitude. If you want to feel up, then >dress " up " ... shed the dark colors, get the hair out of your eyes, >stop trying to emulate Marilyn Manson and lose the black nail polish >;-) Take a firm hand with your environment, so that it is clean and >uncluttered, but still soft and inviting for you. > >Here's another one for you... ignorance is not knowing any better; >stupidity is knowing better but not acting on it. If you take a >careful look at yourself, I'll bet you will see more ignorance than >stupidity, eh? And ignorance can be taken care of, with awareness and >education. So now you know better, you can tell that voice you ain't >stupid, because you have learned you don't have to listen to it >anymore. We are *all* ignorant of many things... that's our job, to >learn! > >Good luck with your progress along your path :-) > >-- >Blessings, >Crow > " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " >-- > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > >Message: 6 > Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:53:57 -0400 > Caroline Abreu <crow >Re: Raven & MS > >Rainwmyn wrote: >> >> Hello everyone My name is Chrisy Shamblin I prefer to be called Raven > >> ...I'm scared >> >> hanging by a shoe string, >> Raven >> >> > >What you need, Chrisy, is one of those towels like Douglas Adams >describes in " The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy " that sez: DON'T >PANIC! > >My first recommendation would be to locate a MS support group in your >area or at least online and begin to dialog with others who have >experienced what you have and know ways of coping that will help you. >YOU ARE NOT ALONE! When you are feeling overwhelmed, it will be good >to have people to talk to who have " been there " . > >More later, but I'd like you to think about being present with your >body for awhile, since it seems that you are not in total contact with >what is happening with you and that is very important so that you have >a baseline to work from; you will have good days and bad days, yes, >but you need to learn some " check in " skills with your physical self >so that you are having a more productive dialogue. > >-- >Blessings, >Crow > " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " >-- > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > >Message: 7 > Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:01:50 +0100 > " Juniper Thyme " <juniper.thyme >Pamela > >Hi Pamela, > >> So this poor decision has led me >> here, to learn. To find peace within myself. To stop abusing my spirit >> and body. To learn to love myself. To discover. To change. To be guided >> to the right path for me. At almost 40 yr. old I am beginning to feel an >> 'awakening' and want desperately to follow and accept it. I am a child >> to this knowledge, so please be patient with me and please advise me. > >This is wonderful to read, the fact that you can recognise the awakening >within you and the need to love yourself is a huge step forward and >I respect your courage to share these things. Addictions often occur when we >conciously or subconsciously want to mask our true feelings or can't let >them go for whatever reason> >this can lead to prolonged stress and dis-ease in the body and spirit and >may have contributed to the migraines. have you ever come across a book >called 'The Inner Child' or know anyone who uses this type of therapy? it is >a powerful way to reconnect with loving yourself, gaining self esteem,and >confidence and rebalancing body ,mind and spirit. > >Take time for you, make time for you, -a little each day (when the children >aren't too demanding!(: )> > >bright blessings >Jan > > > > > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > >Message: 8 > Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:54:22 EDT > REDTAIL29 >Re: introduction > >In a message dated 9/13/99 8:42:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >crow writes: > ><< > Crow > " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " > -- > Thanks Crow , >I appreicate your words. Ive come a long way ,but ive got along way to go >yet. I guess thaat is a good idea faking the emotions until they become >real. It,s just so much more comfortable dealing with life in the logical. >But my Spirit isnt about logic. Its about what is in my heart and Soul. >I need to ask you Crow or any one else...I can not connect any postive, >spiritual ,Godly feelings to my sexual feelings. I know these are " God given >and not to be taken lightly or loathed and dispised " I get angry that i have >these feelings, because of the abuse of people i love. I do not want to >accpect that i need and want these. It feels like iiii am saying what was >done to so many people is Ok. >I feel like I am one of the few people that wishes there was no such thing as >sexual feelings. I cant find a place for this in my program or Spirit. >Thanks for listening >DI > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Show your ONElist SPIRIT! > <A HREF= " http://clickme./ad/tshirt2 " >Click Here</A> > With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. > > ------ >> > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > >Message: 9 > Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:10:40 -0400 > Caroline Abreu <crow >Re: introduction > >REDTAIL29 wrote: >> >> Thanks Crow , >> I appreicate your words. Ive come a long way ,but ive got along way to go >> yet. I guess thaat is a good idea faking the emotions until they become >> real. It,s just so much more comfortable dealing with life in the logical. >> But my Spirit isnt about logic. Its about what is in my heart and Soul. >> I need to ask you Crow or any one else...I can not connect any postive, >> spiritual ,Godly feelings to my sexual feelings. I know these are " God given >> and not to be taken lightly or loathed and dispised " I get angry that i have >> these feelings, because of the abuse of people i love. I do not want to >> accpect that i need and want these. It feels like iiii am saying what was >> done to so many people is Ok. >> I feel like I am one of the few people that wishes there was no such thing as >> sexual feelings. I cant find a place for this in my program or Spirit. >> Thanks for listening > >Di: > >This last post of yours disturbs me on several levels; for one thing, >I am wondering if you can see the correlation between your rejection >of your sexual feelings and your lack of connection with your body >functions? This is a very important connection for you to explore; the >energy that facilitates procreation and reproduction is also the same >useful energy that fuels our creativity and our will to survive. > >It is vital that you befriend your personal energy and your body; no >matter what your history, no matter what your memories, you are not >living in the past, but in the present, and in the present your body >is not supporting you because you are not fully living in it. > >I am not normally so forceful with my responses to folks here but your >posts appear to be more than a litany of complaints, rather more like >a cry for help... and honestly, that help will primarily have to arise >from inside your being. As a whole being, do not forget that you must >not avoid your physical being in a misguided attempt to enhance your >spiritual or intellectual growth; an imbalance will not serve your >progress. As a soul you chose to be in a body, and as your temple, it >can teach you many lessons in patience, unconditionality and service. >It is not perfect, but it is beautiful because it is your home while >you are alive. > >Sexual energy is a good and natural method for beings like us to >reproduce ourselves. Like all good things, it can be perverted, >damaged, or misused, but that does not impinge upon its inherent >goodness. Even if you chose not to have children, or even decided to >be celibate, this energy is a powerful force for motivation and >productivity... we give birth to ideas, art, movements... >possibilities! I would suggest you purchase a book on the energetic >body and the chakras, and pay close attention to the lower three >chakras, the root, the sacral, and the solar plexus. These areas focus >more directly with the physical than the upper chakras and would seem >to be what you need to focus on right now. If you check the archives >for you can find information about each of these chakras by >searching for " Root " , " Sacral " and " Solar Plexus " . Even if energy >centers are not within your philosophical mindset, the developmental >lessons of the chakras correlate with Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, and >show us how we progress from task to task in development. No stage is >superfluous. > >You can choose not to accept that you need and want sexual feelings; >you are free to decide to do anything you want. However, you are not >doing yourself or anyone else a service by behaving reactively instead >of proactively to your negative feelings. Repression can result in >myriad other problems, including emotional and physical symptoms. I >find it interesting that your moniker is " Redtail " . Red is an >important color for grounding and connection to the root chakra, your >base to communicate with the earth. There is nothing dirty about you >or your feelings. Your body is your friend, and if it doesn't appear >to be cooperating with you, perhaps it is because you are not >communicating clearly with it... maybe you've " got your wires crossed " >and something is shorting out... maybe you're not grounding your >energy properly? > >I cannot diagnose you, obviously. But keep your mind open, and if your >therapist is not addressing this issue of abuse with you and you are >ready to deal with it, I think you should honor that and find someone >who can help you process your feelings. > >-- >Blessings, >Crow > " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " >-- >Rev. Caroline Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT >ICQ# 4458763 >AIM= CaroCrow > > >_________________________ ____ >_________________________ ____ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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