New member response to Caroline's questions about bodywork/hyp...

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Caro sez:

 

<< but it is no safer to assume that just because a therapist is a

woman she will not do anything inappropriate or sexual to you. >>

 

90% of sexual perpetrators are male.

 

Anukki

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Just so. Thanks, Manny.

 

 

>Manny Abreu <whiteowl

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>Re: New member response to Caroline's questions about

>bodywork/hyp...

>Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:37:33 -0400

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>Anukki wrote:

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> > Anukki

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> > Caro sez:

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> > << but it is no safer to assume that just because a therapist is a

> > woman she will not do anything inappropriate or sexual to you. >>

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> > 90% of sexual perpetrators are male.

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>90% of " reported " perpetrators may be male, however, that doesn't mean that

>90%

>of men are perpetrators.

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>Manny

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Take this seriously, please. We have one in our area and I would not of

believed the

story had it not come from a cop who's a client of mine. Thing is, the guy is

giving away

" free " massages and working in what should be a legitimate setting. Hopefully

he gets

caught before he advances his " technique " and the area ends up with more

problems than it

has now. Karen

 

Anukki wrote:

 

> Anukki

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> Caro sez:

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> << but it is no safer to assume that just because a therapist is a

> woman she will not do anything inappropriate or sexual to you. >>

>

> 90% of sexual perpetrators are male.

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> Anukki

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Anukki wrote:

 

> Anukki

>

> Caro sez:

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> << but it is no safer to assume that just because a therapist is a

> woman she will not do anything inappropriate or sexual to you. >>

>

> 90% of sexual perpetrators are male.

 

90% of " reported " perpetrators may be male, however, that doesn't mean that 90%

of men are perpetrators.

 

Manny

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I am a male massage therapist. I work on many woman and men and use any

means necessary to put my clients at ease starting with education of new

clients of draping and discussing any concerns. Options always include

clothed massage, someone in the room with them (always, with children, at

my insistence), blue hospital gowns, proper draping, or respect of the wish

not to see a therapist that one is not comfortable with. I get the issue

of men that don't want to be touched by men as well as women that don't

want to be touched by men. Usually with a bit of discussion the issue goes

away and we have ongoing successful sessions. If they are still not

comfortable after my information about procedure, I send them on to someone

else, as it would be unethical for me to try to work on them.

 

The massage profession is overwhelmingly female in numbers of

practitioners. While in the general population, 90% of sexual predators

may be male, it is skewed in the massage and bodywork field due to the

gender percentage. We must also remember that sexual predators tend to go

into jobs where they have easiest access to their victims. In La Crosse,

WI, we had only one case in the last several years. It was a female

therapist inappropriately displaying her genitalia & inappropriately

touching female clients labia and breasts. She was fired from her massage

position and does not now work in the profession.

 

My wife, also an MT, has been 'hit on' by a female client, too. It does

happen.

 

Rob Myran

 

At 09:18 AM 9/21/99 -0500, you wrote:

>karen <ksellars

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>Take this seriously, please. We have one in our area and I would not of

believed the

>story had it not come from a cop who's a client of mine. Thing is, the

guy is giving away

> " free " massages and working in what should be a legitimate setting.

Hopefully he gets

>caught before he advances his " technique " and the area ends up with more

problems than it

>has now. Karen

>

>Anukki wrote:

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>> Anukki

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>> Caro sez:

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>> << but it is no safer to assume that just because a therapist is a

>> woman she will not do anything inappropriate or sexual to you. >>

>>

>> 90% of sexual perpetrators are male.

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>> Anukki

>> AnniesHands.com

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>> > ****************************************

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< 90% of sexual perpetrators are male.

 

90% of " reported " perpetrators may be male, however, that doesn't mean that

90%

of men are perpetrators. >>

 

My goodness, what a lot of heat I stirred up with that little statistic! No,

of course it doesn't mean that 90% of men are perps. That is just plain

silly, isn't it?

 

When I sent that stat to the list, I wondered if I needed to make sure to say

that I was in no way intending to male bash, but I thought my reputation

might just stand for itself. I see that it did not. Bummer.

 

Some people who have suffered abuse as children grow up to perpetrate. Most

do not. Many people have grown up with this irrational fear that is myth

based. They think that because they were abused, then in turn they will

become abusers. It just ain't so.

 

Anukki

AnniesHands.com

[Guest guest]

Anukki writes:

 

> Anukki

>

> Caro sez:

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> << but it is no safer to assume that just because a therapist is a

> woman she will not do anything inappropriate or sexual to you. >>

>

> 90% of sexual perpetrators are male.

 

No. A large portion of *reported* sexual abusers are male.

 

Offhand, I'd guess that 50% of sexual perpetrators are male, given

that most adults perpetrate sex in some form or another.

 

Chris.

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Anukki writes:

 

> Some people who have suffered abuse as children grow up to

> perpetrate. Most do not.

 

Some people who have not suffered abuse as children grow up to

perpetrate. Some do not. Childhood abuse is not the only " cause " of

abuse.

 

> Many people have grown up with this irrational fear that is myth

> based. They think that because they were abused, then in turn they

> will become abusers. It just ain't so.

 

I would amend that to say, " it ain't necessarily so " . They aren't

completely immune to becoming abusers either.

 

Chris.

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Chris

It is not the people who were abused that think that children who are abused

will also become abusers. It is society who has put that label out there.

 

As I said before it is the act that we need to be trying to stop not label .

We need to quit labeling gender and stop the violent act itself

 

Cathy