Guest guest Posted October 1, 2000 Report Share Posted October 1, 2000 Barbara: I suppose that digging around in scripture can be considered off-topic for this list, but, well, you asked, and hey, I love digging around in scripture <G> In doing websearching for " Physician, heal thyself " which is the original Jewish proverb quoted by Jesus, not " healer " , there were several references, including the following. As you can see, the location of the quote is Luke 4:23. The situation in which the quote is used is indeed the temple, but I suspect it was said with the inflection " you may not believe me yet, but... " What follows is a partial concordance of the quote and what follows it, which is the equally famous quote, " No prophet is accepted in his own country. " Hope this helps.... and thanks for asking; I had forgotten the source of this quote and was so used to thinking of it as a rebuke (something like Jesus said when he spoke of taking the beam out of your eye before tending to the mote in your brother's) that I had forgotten its context. The reiteration of a similar " save yourself " comes not only from the jeering crowd at the cross, but earlier during Jesus' temptation in the desert, and has a different meaning altogether. > Now identified as the Son of God, empowered by the Holy Spirit and victorious over the confrontation with Satan, Jesus returned to > Nazareth. He was thirty years of age (Lk. 3:23), the age when, under Judaism, a rabbi could commence his ministry. He would have > approximately three years until His death. His first major encounter would occur in His hometown -- among His own family -- in His own > synagogue. > > Dr. Luke describes that occasion this way: > > And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up; and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the > sabbath day, and stood up to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet, Isaiah. And when he had > opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath > anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach > deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To > preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. > And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this > scripture fulfilled in your ears. And all bore him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his > mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph's son? And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, > heal thyself; whatever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country. And he said, Verily I say > unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country (Lk. 4:16-24). > > " Physician Heal Thyself " Luke Ch.4 v.23 > > This proverb, quoted almost 2000 years ago by Christ in Luke, the physician's gospel, comes from a time when > physicians were consulted as a last result, when the physician's knowledge was scant and when the physician's > armamentarium was rudimentary. It was not until 1912 after all that one's chances of survival actually improved on > consulting a doctor as opposed to not consulting a doctor. Doctors were not popular 2000 years ago - they were > feared and jeered. The proverb is really an analogy used to point out a person's failure to deal with their own problems > whilst trying to advise others how to deal with theirs. In modern terminology " mind your own business " . > Barbara Neebel Meier wrote: > I am searching for the original source of the phrase " Healer, Heal Thy > Self " . I believed it to be from Jesus in the temple. Can anyone help? > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Share Posted October 3, 2000 on 10/1/00 5:44 AM, Caroline Abreu at crow wrote: Barbara: I suppose that digging around in scripture can be considered off-topic for this list, but, well, you asked, and hey, I love digging around in scripture <G> Dear Caroline and all others who responded to my quest for this reference, Thank you. It seems it is not quite the context I thought it was so I am relieved I asked. I have always thought it to mean we must heal ourselves as our own healing will enhance our ability to facilitate healing for others. Sincerely, Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Share Posted October 3, 2000 Barbara: I'm sure that's the context in which it is used most of the time. Interestingly, several of the articles I located in searching had to do with the important task of a physician in finding someone else to help them if they are ill, rather than attempting self prescription, which can often be a dangerous practice because of lack of impartial perspective. That is certainly a drawback in the current trend of self diagnosis and over the counter self medication practiced by many people. Sort of like cooking... someone else besides the cook should taste the soup. So I learned a little bit, too... we are not islands. At the same time, I would refer you to the " 11th Commandment " spoken by Jesus, that we should love others as we love ourselves. If we are not up to par in caring for ourselves we can't be expected to do a very good job with others in the long run, either by energy or by example. Thanks again, Crow " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " PS: You might note I'm writing from my " alternate address " at hotmail until my primary email server gets the kinks out of their server. If you need to reach me for anything, please write me at -owner and it will be sent to me at the correct address, wherever I am! , Barbara Neebel Meier <Barbara@w...> wrote: > on 10/1/00 5:44 AM, Caroline Abreu at crow@c... wrote: > > Barbara: > > I suppose that digging around in scripture can be considered off-topic for > this > list, but, well, you asked, and hey, I love digging around in scripture <G> > > > Dear Caroline and all others who responded to my quest for this reference, > Thank you. > > It seems it is not quite the context I thought it was so I am relieved I > asked. > > I have always thought it to mean we must heal ourselves as our own healing > will enhance our ability to facilitate healing for others. > > Sincerely, > > Barbara > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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