Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 > Please see below for a few more ideas on the nature of friendship in this > new era of electronic communication: > Florie Hi to Florie, I read your piece to Jo on friendships online. You expressed it so well and I agree with it all. I am involved in a couple of lists and I am quite amazed at how easy it is to communicate in a meaningful way with ordinary people throughout the world. Jaylink (Ireland) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 - " jaylink " <jaylink Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:03 PM Re: electronic friendship > > Hi to Florie, > I read your piece to Jo on friendships online. You expressed it so well and > I agree with it all. > I am involved in a couple of lists and I am quite amazed at how easy it is > to communicate in a meaningful way with ordinary people throughout the > world. > > Jaylink > (Ireland) > Thank you for the smile! May I presume that I've just made a new friend in Ireland? Yours, Florie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 > Thank you for the smile! May I presume that I've just made a new friend in > Ireland? > > Yours, > > Florie Well I don't know about that Florie, we haven't been properly introduced. Who knows what strange characters we may be. If we met in the flesh (just a figure of speech, don't get excited) would we be friends? I was going to say 'if we met in real life' but then this is real life. Isn't it! I'm not one for letter writing, never have been, but on-line communication is very different. It's a strange medium. People seem to express themselves in a very open and sharing way to complete strangers! Is it the anonymity? Why do people in this list share so readily? I find it difficult to share with people normally, I need to be able to assess their likely response, I need to watch their body language, listen to the tone of their voice and make all sorts of unconscious judgements about them before I open myself to anything other than small talk. Yet, without any of this assessment, people jump straight in and reveal all sorts of personal details about themselves. This is strange indeed. Perhaps married couples should 'talk to each other on-line' (that was meant as a flippant remark but maybe there is something in that. Any marriage guidance counsellors out there, lurking? Come to think of it, I did the Marriage Encounter weekend many years ago and that was based on written sharing). Anyway, I digress, where was I, oh yes I was trying to get at the essence of friendship and communication. What do you think? Let me ask you a very basic but interesting question and I'm not trying to be rude or anything here but " why would you want to be my friend? " Jaylink Ireland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 - " jaylink " <jaylink Friday, October 06, 2000 3:25 PM Re: electronic friendship > > > Thank you for the smile! May I presume that I've just made a new friend > in > > Ireland? > > > > Yours, > > > > Florie > > Well I don't know about that Florie, we haven't been properly introduced. > Who knows what strange characters we may be. If we met in the flesh (just a > figure of speech, don't get excited) would we be friends? I was going to say > 'if we met in real life' but then this is real life. Isn't it! Ah, but we probably would never have crossed paths if it weren't for cyber-life! > I'm not one for letter writing, never have been, but on-line communication > is very different. It's a strange medium. People seem to express themselves > in a very open and sharing way to complete strangers! Is it the anonymity? > Why do people in this list share so readily? I find it difficult to share > with people normally, I need to be able to assess their likely response, I > need to watch their body language, listen to the tone of their voice and > make all sorts of unconscious judgements about them before I open myself to > anything other than small talk. Yet, without any of this assessment, people > jump straight in and reveal all sorts of personal details about themselves. > This is strange indeed. I've always been a letter-writer--isn't online communication simply the natural extension of the fine art of written communication? However, I'm also painfully shy in public and social situations. This is the only venue in which I feel that I can be myself, without fear of rejection or reprisal. > Perhaps married couples should 'talk to each other on-line' (that was meant > as a flippant remark but maybe there is something in that. Any marriage > guidance counsellors out there, lurking? Come to think of it, I did the > Marriage Encounter weekend many years ago and that was based on written > sharing). > Anyway, I digress, where was I, oh yes I was trying to get at the essence of > friendship and communication. What do you think? Let me ask you a very basic > but interesting question and I'm not trying to be rude or anything here but > " why would you want to be my friend? " > I suppose I could answer that in many ways, all honest. I could counter with: " Well, why *wouldn't* I ? Do you not consider yourself worthy of another's admiration? " , or ask if you have so many people in your life that there is not room for another. I could be contentious and ask if you have not found my communications up to your expectations, I could simply tell you what I feel, which is this: I liked your response to my post yesterday and felt good feelings toward you. No more, no less. Perhaps the word " friend " is used too easily these days. Shall we consider ourselves cordial correspondents and see where it leads? I have no agenda--I know nothing of your age, sex, religion, bank balance, background...don't much care, either. You seem to be an intelligent soul with something to say and a literate way of presenting it, and that is a trait that I find attractive in people with whom I communicate; also, although perhaps erroneously referred be me as " friends " . Allow me to rephrase yesterday's presumption: May I assume that our correspondence has created the possibility of good feelings between the two of us and that there is the potential for more of those good feelings in the future? Cordially, Florie Gray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 Very good response, Florie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 Hello everyone, I haven't followed this entire thread but do find the last two interchanges interesting. Yaylink may I just add my 2 cents worth here, it appears that you may have taken Florie's comment re 'friendship' a little hard. What is the problem with the possibility that she might indeed become a cyber friend? Why even ask that I wonder. I have found cyber communication to be a fascinating medium for connecting. I as well have been a lover of letter writing and this is just an extension of letter writing, yet more immediate hence it facilitates an ease of that -freeely flowing *part of ourselves* - that desires and needs to be expressed without the usual 'walls' and 'masks' we may put up in face to face encounters. Indeed many of us write under cyber names, to protect ourselves yet do often reveal very intimate parts of ourselves, parts we perhaps need to express to someone. There are depths of beauty and truth in all of us that we wish to expose to others - our longings, our fears, our sensitivities. Yet face to face we may fear to open up to others that intimately. And in return our own judgements often screen out others needs for the same. So cyberspace can prove to be a very freeing and intimate medium of sharing and connecting. I have encountered that at times. And it can remain fulfilling just on that level, within this other parallel universe of sorts. However, just to add to the other side of this perspective, cyber space can also be an invisible domain inhabited by 'suspect' individuals some of whom I have experienced as well. These are people not who they claim to be or individuals who have intentions other than those that they are professing. Thus I would say, caveat emptor and trust your instincts. If a more serious 'relationship'/friendship was to develop, I explore and investigate. So I try to remain free and wise at the same time. some thoughts .....in friendship : ) Maya On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:25:32 +0100, wrote: > > > Thank you for the smile! May I presume that I've just made a new friend > in > > Ireland? > > > > Yours, > > > > Florie > > Well I don't know about that Florie, we haven't been properly introduced. > Who knows what strange characters we may be. If we met in the flesh (just a > figure of speech, don't get excited) would we be friends? I was going to say > 'if we met in real life' but then this is real life. Isn't it! > I'm not one for letter writing, never have been, but on-line communication > is very different. It's a strange medium. People seem to express themselves > in a very open and sharing way to complete strangers! Is it the anonymity? > Why do people in this list share so readily? I find it difficult to share > with people normally, I need to be able to assess their likely response, I > need to watch their body language, listen to the tone of their voice and > make all sorts of unconscious judgements about them before I open myself to > anything other than small talk. Yet, without any of this assessment, people > jump straight in and reveal all sorts of personal details about themselves. > This is strange indeed. > Perhaps married couples should 'talk to each other on-line' (that was meant > as a flippant remark but maybe there is something in that. Any marriage > guidance counsellors out there, lurking? Come to think of it, I did the > Marriage Encounter weekend many years ago and that was based on written > sharing). > Anyway, I digress, where was I, oh yes I was trying to get at the essence of > friendship and communication. What do you think? Let me ask you a very basic > but interesting question and I'm not trying to be rude or anything here but > " why would you want to be my friend? " > > Jaylink > Ireland > > _____ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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