Guest guest Posted November 12, 2000 Report Share Posted November 12, 2000 Sandra - aldonsa Over the past year, anxiety and panic attacks seem to come from nowhere. About a month ago, at the suggestion of my primary doctor, I started taking Kava Kava (whole plant) herbal capsules. I take 2 twice/daily and my anxiety/panic attacks had allowed me to regain my center and do healing meditations for myself. I no longer have the anxiety, panic attacks or depression. I have found why they were happening and able to release myself from past life issues working through my pain. Check with your doctor or a reputable holistic practitioner, sharing your concerns and thoughts. Remembering memories can trigger anxiety. The choice we have in this lifetime is to work through those issues or they will continue to reoccur. It is a process and it is important to remember to be patient with yourself. giving yourself permission to work through your issues. I know I am changed. It seemed so strange to be scared of things that have never bothered me before and without reason. I needed to remember that all medical concerns happen for a reason - the opportunity to grow. I wish you the best on your journey. In light and love - Sandy Mathieson, Spiritwalker Wednesday, November 08, 2000 9:21 AM Digest Number 424 > >**************************************** >Visit the community page: >For administrative problems -owner >To , - > >All messages, files and archives of this forum are copyright of the group and the individual authors. >------ > >There are 9 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Re: [MassageTherapistsUnited] National Scam Exam > " Massage Avatar " <massageavatar > 2. Re: EMDR and more (long post) > " Noelle Miller " <nmiller465 > 3. general info related to EMDR > " jimsnow " <jimsnow > 4. spiralling chakras > " jimsnow " <jimsnow > 5. maybe out of place!!! > " sandra " <aldonsa > 6. Re: maybe out of place!!! > " Richard M. Gray, Ph.D. and Florence Tomasulo Gray " <florie > 7. Re: maybe out of place!!! > mcv1052 > 8. Re: maybe out of place!!! > GRANDMABEAR712 > 9. Re: Jeannie's NDE- long > " Richard M. Gray, Ph.D. and Florence Tomasulo Gray " <florie > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 > Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:53:06 MST > " Massage Avatar " <massageavatar >Re: Re: [MassageTherapistsUnited] National Scam Exam > >Rich: > >> >> Suspect what problems? How will you determine what the problem is? >>Diagnose? We have been doing massage for over 3,000 years without even >>having to know anatomy. How can you justify its need now? >> > >Suspect problems does not mean diagnose, Rich. I simply meant that in >massage school, at least the one I went to, we were taught contraindications >and danger signs. For the good of the client, we should know a few. It does >NOT mean that I would say to a client, " Hey, this mole looks like skin >cancer! " It means that I have the concern for my client to tell them that >they may need help that is beyond my scope. > >Respectfully, I am withdrawing from this discussion with an agreement to >disagree. > >Thank you all for your time and input! > >Jan >_______________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 2 > Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:52:32 -0800 > " Noelle Miller " <nmiller465 >Re: EMDR and more (long post) > >Hi, all - > >EMDR stands for Eye Movement Desensitization/ Reprocessing. It's a way of >working to release trauma, physical pain, etc. It's not known exactly WHY it >works, but there is something that happens in the brain in response to >bilateral stimluation while tuning into the problem (bilateral stimulation >was first formulated to be the eye movements back and forth; now some EMDR >therapists use tapping on the client's knees or hands, or an >audiocassette/headphones with alternating clicks). > >As a therapist trained in EMDR, I agree that it's terrific. However, the >full protocol is somewhat complicated, and my experience is that it's >nowhere near as effective when it's used for self-help as when it's done >with a trained other person.Difficult material CAN come up between sessions, >so a big part of the classic EMDR protocol is devoted to safe place >visualizations, etc., before starting the processing. (One good self-help >technique is the butterfly hug when in distress. Hug yourself, hands on >upper arms, and lightly tap alternately for a while. This is often taught to >children - now adults too! - after EMDR sessions for self-soothing. It often >works!) > >Fortunately, there are now incredibly helpful self-help techniques. I'd >strongly recommend EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) in which you tap on >certain acupoints on your own body while " tuning into " the problem - trauma, >physical pain, negative self-talk, etc. The theory is that all " negative " >emotions are actually caused by a disruption in the body's energy system, >i.e., the meridians. By tuning into the problem - thus activating the >blockage or other disruption - and then meridian tapping, you can clear the >disruption. It may happen in one round or it may take some digging to find >the deep layers, but an amazing proportion of the time, the difficult >sensation, etc., just clears. With a traumatic memory, for instance, you can >find that you can still remember everything that happens but the distress >just.. clears. Which means you don't act in your daily life from that >distressed place anymore.. amazing changes, often new understandings emerge, >often a sense of peacefulness.. > >With clients, I now use EFT much more than EMDR, and the best part is I can >easily teach them to go home and do it themselves, to help free themselves >from panic attacks, fears, phobias, much physical pain, traumatic memories.. >it's freeing and empowering.. and it's on the web in detail. > >Full instructions, a free downloadable manual, and a huge resource file of >articles about EFT used for just about anything are available at the >www.emofree.com . (No, I'm not affiliated in any way, just a fan. I've >helped free myself from deep negative self-beliefs as well as often just >tapping out the " icks " of the day.) There are other wonderful variations of >the meridian therapies (I'm currently working a lot with TAT - Tapas >Acupressure Technique - and loving it) but the founder of EFT, Gary Craig, >has made so much available at emofree for free that I encourage everyone to >check it out there and try it. > >There are articles and basic instructions for some of the other meridian >therapies at Christine Sutherland's website www.lifeworks-group.com.au. >That's where I first got basic TAT instructions and began to recover from >mercury poisoning.. but that's another post! > >In Light, >Noelle > > >Noelle Miller, MA, MFT, RM >Energy Psychology, Spiritual Psychotherapy >Usui Reiki Master/Teacher >Los Angeles, CA, USA > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 3 > Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:44:02 -0500 > " jimsnow " <jimsnow >general info related to EMDR > >There is a relationship between where the eyes go and what the person is >doing inside their head. The observation of " Eye Accessing Cues " is nicely >described in the book " Magic of NLP Demystified', by Byron Lewis and Frank >Pucelik (ISBN 1-55552-017-0) > >By observing what direction the client's eyes go (up, down, sideways, left, >right) and comparing that to what you observe about their visualization, >recall of conversation, feelings, etc.; you can begin to predict how they >are representing their past and present experience inside. When a traumatic >experience is unresolved in the client's memory, there is also a " glitch " >installed in the energetic pattern of their memory and this creates a >blockage, which is observable in uneven eye accessing. > >When the client follows the EMDR Practitioner's finger, the client then >moves their eyes into the area of the 'glitch " (that's a technical term here >in Canada), which associates the client into the problem state of mind, >buried in memory. So, then you have the opportunity to clear the >problem/memory, by whatever technique works for the client and it sounds >like maureen got good results with whatever technique was used. > >Notice that EMDR has the capability of associating the client into a problem >state of mind, with the memory remaining outside of consciousness. You can >get excellent results with clients who were traumatized, i.e. victims of >abuse, by avoiding the problem memory which is buried outside of >consciousness for very good reasons. What I do is have them associate into >The Energetic Pattern of the Problem State-of-Mind (eye accessing cues are >one way to do this) and then work with the energetic pattern using Reiki, >hypnosis, NLP, Time Line Therapy and/or past life regression, etc. There is >no single best way to do this. The best way for the client is the one that >works and I think it is also wise to have a bunch of other Practitioners, >using other modalities, that you can call on right away to help with a stuck >client. > >Jim Snow >Paramedic, Reiki Master >Canada > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 4 > Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:50:55 -0500 > " jimsnow " <jimsnow >spiralling chakras > >Crow: > >Thanks, I had the feeling I was missing something. Makes total sense now. > >Jim > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 5 > Wed, 08 Nov 2000 02:18:11 -0000 > " sandra " <aldonsa >maybe out of place!!! > >Hello, I joined the list becuase the name seemed interesting but it >seems you are all professionals in the field, well, I am not, only a >journalist and spiritual seeker but I am looking for adive on >something that is disturbing my life. I've been suferring from what >they call panic attacks, and general state of anxiety which is very >tiring and influences very aspect of my life. If anyone has something >to say I would appreciate it!! > >Sandra > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 6 > Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:28:34 -0500 > " Richard M. Gray, Ph.D. and Florence Tomasulo Gray " <florie >Re: maybe out of place!!! > >Dear Sandra; > >Many of us on the list are not professionals, just seekers like yourself. > >The benefit of having so many professionals of every type on the list is >that you can be sure of getting responsible and correct information from >many different sources. > >I'm certain you will get the advice you need here. Welcome. > >Florie >======================= >Click and plant a tree for free! > http://www.webreleaf.org >======================= >- > " sandra " <aldonsa > >Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:18 PM > maybe out of place!!! > > >> Hello, I joined the list because the name seemed interesting but it >> seems you are all professionals in the field, well, I am not, only a >> journalist and spiritual seeker but I am looking for adive on >> something that is disturbing my life. I've been suferring from what >> they call panic attacks, and general state of anxiety which is very >> tiring and influences very aspect of my life. If anyone has something >> to say I would appreciate it!! >> >> Sandra >> >> >> >> **************************************** >> Visit the community page: >> For administrative problems -owner >> To , - >> >> All messages, files and archives of this forum are copyright of the > group and the individual authors. >> > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 7 > Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:32:56 EST > mcv1052 >Re: maybe out of place!!! > >Sandra >There is a technique called EFT which is at http://www.emofre.com is a very >good way of handling panic and anxiety, Also an essential oil Lavender is >very helpful >Cathy >Mcv1052 > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 8 > Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:27:23 EST > GRANDMABEAR712 >Re: maybe out of place!!! > >Sandra, >Your not in the wrong place, we are all in here to share our problems with >each other. Also our good times. I also suffer from anxiety (panic attacks). >I am on medication for it. I also suffer from depression and many other >health problems. The people in this group are some of the nicest and sweetest >people I have ever met. Everyone is helping me through a not so good time >right now. Please stay with us and you will see. You can say anything here or >you can write to me out of the group I'm here to help you all I can and I'm >not a professional. >Hope you stay, >Ellie > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 9 > Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:39:11 -0500 > " Richard M. Gray, Ph.D. and Florence Tomasulo Gray " <florie >Re: Jeannie's NDE- long > >I'm not receiving all of my e-mail these days--slow server. > >Jeannie--please forgive me for not responding. I have not seen the post >(although I want to very much). Could someone please forward it to my >e-mail address? > >Thanks. > >Florie >======================= >Click and plant a tree for free! > http://www.webreleaf.org >======================= >- ><GRANDMABEAR712 > >Monday, November 06, 2000 9:48 PM >Re: Jeannie's NDE- long > > >> Jeannie, >> I just read your post to Florie. > > > >______________________ >______________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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