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> Message: 6

> Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:40:01 -0800

> " Susette Horspool "

> Re: Dreams

>

> Actually, Florie, I had a strange dream last night, too! I dreamed I was

> outside someplace with my family, when suddenly there were birds all around

> us. BIG birds! Like we people had shrunk or something. This huge crow hopped

> over to me and I reached up timidly to touch it's breast feathers, thinking

> that love would stop me from being scared and it from hurting me, while

> fearing that I might be overstepping my bounds - a very strange dichotomy.

> Any takers?

>

> Love - Susette

>

 

Hi Susette:

 

Back again, nice to see you've been dreaming of corvines <LOL>

 

Black birds get a lot of bad press, and there are a lot of aspects to these

birds

that frighten or disturb people, from Poe's Raven and the pair of Ravens that

sit

on the shoulders of Odin (Hugin and Munin, " Thought " and " Memory " ). In Native

tradition they can be anything from the Prometheus that brought fire to warm the

earth to mighty tricksters. Their medicine is magic and mystery, helping us to

explore our darkness.

 

Angwusnasomtaka, or " Crow Mother " is one of the most important Kachinas in

Pueblo

culture. Most Northwest tribes include Raven in their totem poles.

 

They are in the songbird family, and have the capability to vocalize, like

parrots. They are very intelligent, live in family units, and keep clean nests.

They are omnivorous and do a lot of " housekeeping " by clearing out carrion in

the

environment. They are very wary and you can't catch one easily, so touching one

would be a big coup. They have few natural enemies, but owls will eat them.

This

is a caution for crow people to be conscious of the dangers of deception, which

is

owl's medicine. In other words, to avoid naivete' in their interactions with

others.

 

When I started working with corvines as medicine I had many unusual experiences;

now I find that when I hear that " caw " or " croak " it is a comforting reminder to

pay attention.

 

The most important part of your dream, though, is what do these large birds mean

to *you*? You expressed that they were intimidating and frightening... yet you

also felt that love/affection would protect you (and perhaps your family?). What

aspect of your life or yourself might these great black birds represent?

 

--

Blessings,

Crow

" Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

--

---

Rev. Caroline Gutierrez Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT, CH

AIM: CaroCrow

http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance

 

" We see things not as they are but as we are. " The Talmud

 

" We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we

created them. " Albert Einstein

 

A wise person learns by the experience of others. An ordinary person learns by

his

or her own experience. A fool learns by nobody's experience.

 

" It's not where you go, but what you see that makes life a pilgrimage. " Carolyn

Scott Kortge

 

 

 

 

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Hmmmm - You guys have given me a lot to think aboutl As with my meditations,

when I ask two or three questions at once, however seemingly unrelated, they

always come out in one big answer and everything fits together. This dream

could be doing the same thing.

 

So, the Crow could be a warning for me, reminding me to stay alert, yes.

Until my business can support me, I am substitute teaching teenage felons at

local boys camps. Sometimes the boys play tricks on me, like this last week.

Since I've had a history in my life of wanting to trust everyone and not

acknowledge blatant dishonesty, it was hard for me to see what they were

doing. But now I am beginning to put two and two together to catch them.

 

On a more primal level, I am sure the Crow represents the mystery of my life

goals and how the heck I am going to get there, whether or not they will

actually work out, and whether I will be able to keep my family. I know that

I will be a changed person after this stage - a transformed one, and it

scares me - a huge fear, like I'm being born again into a different life as

a different person.

 

Timidly touching the Crow with love, but not feeling like I deserve to?

Afraid I will be angrily rejected? It reminds me of my Mom when I was a kid

and how she would sometimes lash out.Three different levels addressed in the

same dream. Awesome!

 

Love to you all - Susette

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