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Cynthia--

 

Holistic treatments are wonderful and easy to implement (sewing a marble in the

back of the sleeper's collar to insure that s/he is not sleeping on their back

is one that quickly comes to mind).

 

However...snoring can be a symptom of sleep apnea, which can be a dangerous and

even deadly problem. You might want to suggest that your friend's partner see a

physician to rule out anything more serious first.

 

My husband has severe obstructive apnea (snores like a freight train!!!) and

uses a CPAP machine to help him breathe freely during the night. It's a bit

unsightly, and it took a some getting used to, but it is a blessing because it

keeps him breathing freely.

 

There are at least two other people on this list who have apnea. I'm sure that

they will also have some suggestions for your friend.

 

Best,

 

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Deal all,

I just got an urgent e-mail from a good friend seeking holistic

treatments for snoring - ruining a new relationship. I have no

clue. Help. Thank you. Cynthia

 

 

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At 10:23 AM 12/5/00 -0500, you wrote:

>There are at least two other people on this list who have apnea. I'm sure

that they will also have some suggestions for your friend.

>

>Best,

>

>Florie

 

 

Definitely look into the sleep apnea aspect of it. It can cause some pretty

nasty complications if untreated. I have sleep apnea as does my husband and

although the gear take a bit of getting used to, I wouldn't trade mine for

anything.

 

Sleeping on the side or on the stomach does help reduce snoring hence the

marble or tennis ball sewn into the pajamas in the back. For some people

wearing those strips that go across your nose to keep your sinuses open help.

 

You don't mention if this friend is overweight...weight has in some cases a

lot to do with developing sleep apnea and a reduction in weight will solve

the problem. You also don't mention if there are allergies...if there are

and they result in swollen nasal passages this can create snoring. A proper

prescription or herbal antihistamine/decongestant should allieviate the

problem. Take care however in using herbal treatments for this...follow the

dosage instructions carefully. Many herbal decongestants can raise blood

pressure (OC and prescription can too but the doctor should evaluate to make

sure this is not a problem). Also if the snoring seems to be related to the

sinuses clogging at night, regular lavaging of the sinuses with a Neti

(spelling?) pot might be another option.

 

Hope all this helps.

 

Bright Blessings,

 

Angharad Truthsayer

aka Sandy Roberts

 

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re: snoring.....

mix lavendar and eucalyptus with a little almond carrier oil, and burn in

the bedroom about an hour or two before going to bed. The lavendar helps the

sleep and the eucalyptus helps keep the airways clear which cn prevent

snoring.....believe me, I have a husband who can snore for England!!!! this

does work for us.

Ruth

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Dear Florrie and Ruth,

Florrie, what's a CPAP machine? Thank you for your response. I've

forwarded it on. There was mail the first week I d about

responding to you off line if interested in trance work. I'm interested,

but deleted your address. My email is: cjohnson

 

 

Ruth, you wrote " mix lavendar and eucalyptus with a little almond carrier

oil, and burn in

the bedroom about an hour or two before going to bed. "

I'm sorry for being so dumb, but do you mix dry herbs in the oil and light

it in an incense burner? I've used homeopathics and herbs in teas, but not

am not well versed in other modalities.

 

Thank you both so much for the suggestions. This would be funny if it

didn't sound so serious. cynthia

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Dear Angharad Truthsayer

aka Sandy Roberts

 

Thank you for answering the snoring problem. What is a Neti (whatever

spelling) pot? Boy! This is fun...I'm learning a lot of new things. I do

appreciate it. cynthia

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Hi, Cynthia!

 

A CPAP (or CPAC) machine is basically a " breathing machine " for those with

obstructive sleep apnea. It forces a stream of air into the nostrils of those

who might stop breathing without it.

 

This is a really simplistic explanation, and I'm hoping that one of the

listmembers who has used one might be able to explain it better. It's kind of

cumbersome (and sleeping next to someone hooked up to a mask and a hose can be

pretty disconcerting at first), it's a real help. It's changed my husband's

life--he no longer falls asleep behind the wheel of his car or in the middle of

working with a client!

 

The group doing the trance/telepathy experiments is called

Parahypnosis -- it's an interesting group of people...psychics,

skeptics, and everything in between. We're just about done discussing the

results of last week's pendulum experiment, and are about to start designing a

new group experiment for this weekend. Come and play, if you'd like--several

folks from Bodymind are contributing.

 

Best,

 

Florie

 

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Tuesday, December 05, 2000 6:32 PM

Re: snoring

 

 

Dear Florrie and Ruth,

Florrie, what's a CPAP machine? Thank you for your response. I've

forwarded it on. There was mail the first week I d about

responding to you off line if interested in trance work. I'm interested,

but deleted your address. My email is: cjohnson

 

 

Ruth, you wrote " mix lavendar and eucalyptus with a little almond carrier

oil, and burn in

the bedroom about an hour or two before going to bed. "

I'm sorry for being so dumb, but do you mix dry herbs in the oil and light

it in an incense burner? I've used homeopathics and herbs in teas, but not

am not well versed in other modalities.

 

Thank you both so much for the suggestions. This would be funny if it

didn't sound so serious. cynthia

 

 

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At 04:40 PM 12/5/00 -0700, you wrote:

>Dear Angharad Truthsayer

>aka Sandy Roberts

>

>Thank you for answering the snoring problem. What is a Neti (whatever

>spelling) pot? Boy! This is fun...I'm learning a lot of new things. I do

>appreciate it. cynthia

 

 

I would suggest going back through the archives as we recently had a

discussion about them. They are a ceramic pot that looks like Aladdin's

lamp and are used to lavage the sinus cavities. I have never used one so

would it would be difficult for me to explain, however, someone and perhaps

they can chime in uses one regularly and would be better able to explain how

to properly use one.

Bright Blessings,

 

Angharad Truthsayer

aka Sandy Roberts

 

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At 08:20 PM 12/5/00 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi, Cynthia!

>

>A CPAP (or CPAC) machine is basically a " breathing machine " for those with

obstructive sleep apnea. It forces a stream of air into the nostrils of

those who might stop breathing without it.

>

>This is a really simplistic explanation, and I'm hoping that one of the

listmembers who has used one might be able to explain it better.

 

CPAP stands for Continuous Positive Air Pressure. It works by keeping a

continuous stream of air blowing through either a mask which covers the nose

or a mask with nostril pillow which fit directly into the nostrils, thereby

keeping the air passages open. To obtain a CPAP, it must be determined that

you have sleep apnea by means of a sleep study. The sleep study is usually

done as an outpatient either at the hospital or a sleep study center. It

consists of spending the night hooked up to various monitoring devices that

measure everything from your heart rate to breathing patterns to brain

waves. It determines if you have sleep apnea, which type obstructive or

central (some people have both) and how severe it is. If it is determined

that you have sleep apnea, your doctor will discuss treatment options with

you. If it is mild in nature and weight may be a contributing factor, a

simple weight reduction plan may be all that is in order. If this is not

the case, depending upon the severity, your doctor may prescribe a CPAP or a

BiPAP. If this is the option, you will usually have another sleep study

done in order to titrate the pressure needed to keep your air passages open.

Once that is done, your doctor will prescribe the appropriate machine and

air pressure settings. The CPAP can be obtained from a durable medical

equipment company that specializes in respiratory equipment.

 

It may take a bit of time to get used to wearing the mask but once you have

gotten the first few nights of restful sleep, trying to sleep without it

will be the last thing on your mind. It does truly make a difference that

is immediately noticeable. They usually prescribe the type mask that covers

the nose to start with...if you find that you are not tolerating it well or

are having difficulty with air leaking from the mask, discuss the option of

nasal pillows with your doctor. I was unable to use the typical triangluar

mask as it leaked air into my eyes even with the smallest size, so I now

have a mask that uses nasal pillows and it works perfectly.

 

Hope this helps.

Bright Blessings,

 

Angharad Truthsayer

aka Sandy Roberts

 

We within us carry all the knowledge necessary to create a beautiful

universe filled with love, laughter and joy. Begin today to find this

within you and share it with the world. You will find that it will be the

greatest journey you can ever imagine.

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At 06:58 AM 12/6/00 -0700, you wrote:

>Once again, thank you for all the good information. While I'm on line

>another friend asked me to find out what might treat the hepatitis that the

>Judd (singer) mom had. I think it's hepatitis C, but she asked me some time

>ago - any thoughts on memory loss?? Just kidding, cynthia

 

 

Can't help on the hepatitis but Gingko Biloba is great for memory. So is

meditation, maritial arts, or any other activity that requires discipline.

It tends to carry over into the rest of our lives and I find that when I am

focused, I remember better.

 

Bright Blessings,

 

Angharad Truthsayer

aka Sandy Roberts

 

We within us carry all the knowledge necessary to create a beautiful

universe filled with love, laughter and joy. Begin today to find this

within you and share it with the world. You will find that it will be the

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Once again, thank you for all the good information. While I'm on line

another friend asked me to find out what might treat the hepatitis that the

Judd (singer) mom had. I think it's hepatitis C, but she asked me some time

ago - any thoughts on memory loss?? Just kidding, cynthia

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I have used a neti pot and also something I like even more called a

Grossan nasal irrigator (http://www.pharmacy-solutions.com/) - it's an

attachment that you attach to a water pik. Both take some getting

used to but make a big difference in nasal congestion. Also reducing

or eliminating dairy in your diet....

 

Just a few sites with info on neti pots:

http://www.scand-yoga.org/english/shop/uk_neti.html

http://www.itppeople.com/store/ceramic.htm

 

For more info on various ways of dealing with allergies, asthma, and

other breathing difficulties:

http://64.37.202.203/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000015.html

 

Best wishes,

MichelleH

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Dear all,

 

My friend with the snoring problem wrote the following. I think she's trying to

do the eucalyptus and lavender at night. I sent her all the responses you sent.

She lives in the middle of nowhere, has no support system, and doesn't know

where to start. Would someone be willing to spell out step by step something

that's burned in almond oil? This may seem trivial, but this is a lady who is

starting along a long-neglected path. Thanks in advance, cynthia johnson

 

>>Thank you for all the responses on the snoring situation. I can't seem to

find the oil for the potpourri, it seems that no one here carries anything

like that or knows anything about it, I am even trying on the Internet but

can't seem to put in the right thing to find out what I want to.>>

 

PS She's in Sioux Falls, S. Dak.

 

 

 

 

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At 08:19 PM 12/17/00 -0700, you wrote:

>Dear all,

>

>My friend with the snoring problem wrote the following. I think she's

trying to do the eucalyptus and lavender at night. I sent her all the

responses you sent. She lives in the middle of nowhere, has no support

system, and doesn't know where to start. Would someone be willing to spell

out step by step something that's burned in almond oil? This may seem

trivial, but this is a lady who is starting along a long-neglected path.

Thanks in advance, cynthia johnson

>

>>>Thank you for all the responses on the snoring situation. I can't seem to

>find the oil for the potpourri, it seems that no one here carries anything

>like that or knows anything about it, I am even trying on the Internet but

>can't seem to put in the right thing to find out what I want to.>>

>

>PS She's in Sioux Falls, S. Dak.

 

 

 

On the internet, the best place I know of to purchase essential oils is from

Kamala. Just have her do a search on any of the major search engines using

the word Kamala. I know the woman who runs the business and have bought

from her before. She studied the oils while living overseas where she made

contacts with the people who actually produce them so everything she imports

is of the highest quality. If I were going to use the oil combination that

you describe, I would purchase an aromatherapy diffuser. These can be very

inexpensive or very expensive depending upon what she chooses. The simplest

ones are clay or ceramic and have a bowl at the top where the oil is placed

and a tea candle is set in the bottom under the bowl. The flame heats the

oil which is diffused into the air. The expensive models are usually

electric and are made to hold the entire bottle of oil in some cases and

diffuse specific amounts into the air at prescribed intervals. Kamala

usually carries the simplest type of diffuser. To find the more expensive

variety...have her do a search using the following

words...diffuser,essential oil. That should give her a variety of products

to choose from.

 

Hope this helps.

Bright Blessings,

 

Angharad Truthsayer

aka Sandy Roberts

 

We within us carry all the knowledge necessary to create a beautiful

universe filled with love, laughter and joy. Begin today to find this

within you and share it with the world. You will find that it will be the

greatest journey you can ever imagine.

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