Digest Number 457

December 14, 2000

Hi, my name is kelly and I'm new to the list : )

(I've been lurking a bit here, but haven't posted yet)

Can I ask , do you mean the book, Women's Bodies, Women's wisdom by

Christine Northrup ?

- Kelly

(glad to meet you all)

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> Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:56:25 -0800 (PST)

> maryann <maps31

>Re: Digest Number 456(tears)

>

>re: tears

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>Dan (and all)

>

>I have been reading and reading...and I wish to share

>with you the book " Women's bodies, Women's minds "

>

>Sounds rather sexist, huh?

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> Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:07:39 -0800 (PST)

> maryann <maps31

>Re: Digest Number 456

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>Dang it all..I sent it I think,

>anyway

>men and women do have a different way of dealing with/

>and looking at things. It in our make-up. our

> " electrical " and biological make-up.

>Strange as it mak seem, Doctors have researched this

>and it is more than hormones (both sexes have estrogen

>AND tetesteron)

>exanple (I like this one)

>ask a man to tell an account of something that

>happened.

>usually goes...point a to be

>ask a woman teh same thing and off it goes...kinda in

>a circle if you will, by the time the conclusion, the

>bottom line, the facts may just include teh day of the

>week, weather, what colour they were wearing...etc etc

>etc...but we get there. same end. And I find it

>frustrating as all get out (as my Mom would say) to be

>stopped and asked not to tell THE story, just the

>result....my signifigent whatever does that just to

>see my reaction...he makes me nuts!)

>enough rambling......

>Mush to all,

>Namaste

>Maryann

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>I also a list on

>but right this sec I cant remember the code...its on

>the site (mine) or in or write...we are having fun!

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> Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:21:27 EST

> mcv1052

>Re: Digest Number 456

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>MaryAnn

> Men and women use different parts of the brain , plus their hormones are

>different.

>We are not the same. Men use the left side of the brain which is the

thinking

>part and logicalone. We as women use the right side and the left side. most

>women are billateral (which means both sides) We use the feeling side of

>the brain and creative where men just think about things.

>Cathy

>Mcv1052

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January 17, 2001

Re microwaved herbs,

I haven't seen all of this correspondence but I'm reminded of a study I

saw many years ago carried out by some Steiner people. They boiled water

over different fuels, used it to sprout wheat seeds and timed how long it

took for them to sprout. If my memory is right, a straw fire gave

quickest sprouting time, followed by wood, coal and then electricity. I

daren't think where microwave came (it hadn't been invented then). They

also similarly checked out cooking vessels. All I can recall on that is

that gold came out best. So it's gold cooking pots over straw fires then.

Peter Deadman

January 17, 2001

on 1/17/01 1:50 AM, Peter Deadman at jcm wrote:

> Re microwaved herbs,

>

> I haven't seen all of this correspondence but I'm reminded of a study I

> saw many years ago carried out by some Steiner people. They boiled water

> over different fuels, used it to sprout wheat seeds and timed how long it

> took for them to sprout. If my memory is right, a straw fire gave

> quickest sprouting time, followed by wood, coal and then electricity. I

> daren't think where microwave came (it hadn't been invented then). They

> also similarly checked out cooking vessels. All I can recall on that is

> that gold came out best. So it's gold cooking pots over straw fires then.

The study was published in a book by Rudolf Hauschka, " Nutrition " ,

unfortunately now out of print. He is well-known for the natural cosmetics

line he developed. This book and his other great work, " The Nature of

Substance " , combined scientific research and cosmic principles in a manner

that is rare in mid-twentieth century European culture. If you can find,

please read. One of the main themes of both works is the importance of

organic vs. synthetic in human agriculture, nutrition and other endeavors.

March 18, 2002

Hello All,

I am a passive member of this group - primarily for

the reason that I am not actually involved in any

TCM-related activities but am very much interested in

the subject. What you discuss here gives a lot of

interesting information and makes me think and

reconsider a lot of things in my everyday life.

The discussion about the Elements, and tastes, and

smells was fantastic!!!

Talking about myself -- I somehow get addicted to

chocolate -- it's a real ADDICTION, if I have it - I

eat it, NOW and as much as I have! Can it be somehow

explained from a TCM point of view? What can cause the

craving and why?

Thank you,

Natalia

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> There are 9 messages in this issue.

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> Topics in this digest:

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> 1. Re: Smoking Hormones

> pai.mu.tan

> 2. Re: 5 elements Theory - Practical

> interpretation

> " Judy Fitzgerald "

> <victoria_dragon

> 3. RE: 5 elements Theory - Practical

> interpretation

> " Susie " <yinyang

> 4. 5 elements Theory - Emotions

> " Judy Fitzgerald "

> <victoria_dragon

> 5. Re: 5 elements Theory - Practical

> interpretation

> " Judy Fitzgerald "

> <victoria_dragon

> 6. Re: Hormones

> " Judy Fitzgerald "

> <victoria_dragon

> 7. Fwd: Integrating the Traditional Chinese

> Understanding of the Kidneys into Western H

> " Judy Fitzgerald "

> <victoria_dragon

> 8. Re: Hormones

> Al Stone

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> 9. Re: 5 elements Theory - Practical

> interpretation

> Frederic Lecut

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> Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:26:34 +0100 (MET)

> pai.mu.tan

> Re: Smoking Hormones

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> Dear gigigrem,

>

> Of course, the many substances found (and not yet

> found) in tobacco smoke

> mess up your body, including your hormones (which -

> according to my knowledge

> have NOTHING to do with Oriental medicine - they,

> too, get influenced by TCM

> treatment, but you don't use them for diagnosis or

> for a TCM treatment plan)

> Without meaning to impose anything on you, I'd

> suggest that you don't look

> for hormones that are responsible for your smoking

> habit, but for the

> (presumed) " advantages " that keep you smoking (e.g.

> feeling attractive, cool, " be one

> of them " , putting something in your mouth, etc.

> etc.)

> Unless, of course, you just want to cut down - in

> which case you can stop

> worrying about why you didn't stop yet.

>

> As I said, I don't want to impose anything on you,

> this is just what works

> for me.

> Feel free to try it out or not.

>

> Best regards

> Rebecca

>

> > I recently had acupuncture in my ears to stop

> smoking. I have had 4

> > treatments and have cut down my smoking from a

> pack a day to 5

> > cigarettes a day. When I asked my practitioner

> why I was having so

> > much trouble quiting all together, she said

> because my hormones were

> > out of balance and so it made it harder for me to

> stop.

> >

> > She said there were four hormones in the body and

> they all needed to

> > be in balance. I believe she said one was

> thyroid, one was uterus

> > and I don't remember what the other ones were.

> >

> > Can someone please tell me what the hormones are.

> And also, I am

> > having trouble understanding hormones as related

> to Oriental

> > medicine. All I keep thinking of is the Western

> medical thinking of

> > hormones meaning menopause (or hormones that women

> have).

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> > Thank you.

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March 19, 2002

Hi Victoria,

Below is a cut & paste that I sent Natalie.

I was sure someone would pick up on SP Xu (unless she's

eating it unsweetened) and we also learned of a LIV & LIV blood

relation. Cravings at PMS? Emotional cravings?

-Kit

Hi Natalie,

The quote below is not TCM. But, I'm sure someone else will answer

re:

Spleen Xu and, in women, Liv Blood related.

People that have a diminished output of cortisol can exhibit any of

the following symptoms - they will crave substances that will temporarily

raise their serum glucose level such as caffeine, sweets, soda or juice,

tobacco, marijuana.

Frequent ingestion of white sugar, honey, maple syrup, fruit juices,

sodas, etc. will cause a rapid rise in blood glucose levels. Our bodies

are not made to handle large amounts of concentrated sweets (an ice cream

sundae has 24 teaspoons of sugar) and this rapid rise will cause the

pancreas to " freak out " and overreact in insulin secretion -

this leading to a rapid fall in blood glucose levels. At that point the

adrenals must put out large amounts of cortisol to bring the blood sugar

back to normal. This type of diet that is very prevalent today will over

time exhaust the adrenals and also lead to hypoglycemia.

Caffeine, alcohol, marijuana, methylxanthines (in

chocolate) will have the same effect as the concentrated sweets listed

above.

http://www.myvits.com/bodymech/bodymech-adrenals.htm

A good Idea would be to read the adrenal chapter link above. Note

the diet. It is almost identical to one, that I read in one

of Flaw's books, for damp heat and SP issues.

Good luck,

Kit

Hi Natalia,

I searched for info on chocolate & TCM and found next to nothing.

The

little bit I did find claims that chocoate has Hot energy.

Hopefully someone else has more detailed information on the properties of

chocolate from a TCM standpoint.

Sorry.

Victoria

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March 19, 2002

>Talking about myself -- I somehow get addicted to

>chocolate -- it's a real ADDICTION, if I have it - I

>eat it, NOW and as much as I have! Can it be somehow

>explained from a TCM point of view? What can cause the

>craving and why?

Hi Natalia,

I searched for info on chocolate & TCM and found next to nothing. The

little bit I did find claims that chocoate has Hot energy.

Hopefully someone else has more detailed information on the properties of

chocolate from a TCM standpoint.

Sorry.

Victoria

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March 19, 2002

Thanks, Kit, for some very useful information.

I wish I could have re-quoted the part about the link between diminished

cortisol production, blood glucose levels, and cravings as it is especially

important.