Guest guest Posted January 9, 2001 Report Share Posted January 9, 2001 Hello Group This link will take you to a site, which can supply, in my experience, one of the most purest discriptions of all that you would ever want to know about Kundalini, Chakras, and Reality Creation. Enjoy Dennis... http://www.lazaris.com/media/search.cfm#217 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Hi, Dennis, Thank you for the info. I did enjoy it. I wonder do you know is there any good site for Chinese acupuncture, and the meridians system? Max - " Timelord " <qtech Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:42 AM Chakras and Kundalini explained > Hello Group > > This link will take you to a site, which can supply, in my experience, > one of the most purest discriptions of all that you would ever want to > know about Kundalini, > Chakras, and Reality Creation. > > Enjoy > Dennis... > > http://www.lazaris.com/media/search.cfm#217 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Hello again Max, On the site www.lazaris.com there is a set of two tapes " The Mysterious power of the Chakras " that explains in depth, all that you would ever want to Know about the subject. This material can take you beyond any possible human explanation of the subject, and because of which, will free you of any problems brought on by the Kundalini experience. Kindest Regards Dennis... P.S. The list below may be of interest to you on the subject " Chinese acupuncture, and the meridians system. http://dmoz.org/Health/Alternative/Acupuncture_and_Chinese_Medicine/ http://health.discovery.com/altmed/tnp/CID/CID30Area12Page2.html http://home.earthlink.net/~healerhen3ry/Massage.htm http://kizuna.ins.cwru.edu/asia110/projects/Tang2/hist.html http://members.aol.com/pganzel/my.html http://onhealth.com/ch1/resource/althealth/item,44854.asp http://pessoal.mandic.com.br/voli/acupvil.htm http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro98/202s98-paper1/Christensen.html http://skepdic.com/akinesiology.html http://tcm.medboo.com/palace/index.htm http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/micros.html http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~btcarrol/skeptic/acupunc.html http://www.acupuncture.com/Acup/back.htm http://www.acupuncture.com/Acup/Works.htm http://www.acupuncture.com/Mktplace/Book1.htm http://www.acupuncture-herbs.com/ http://www.acupunctureschool.com/ http://www.aidsinfonet.org/703-acupuncture.html http://www.americanwholehealth.com/library/acupuncture/acufaq.htm http://www.billnelson.com/other/walkabout.htm http://www.botanicum.com/acuahmedresearch.html http://www.china-guide.com/acupuncture/meridian.html http://www.china-guide.com/alt-medi.htm http://www.china-guide.com/meridian.html http://www.china-guide.com/textbook.htm http://www.chinese-pump.com/diffe.htm http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/17/24/02.html http://www.csicop.org/si/9509/chi.html http://www.drcounts.com/acupunc.html http://www.elixir.net/RRFiles/RR_nih-1c-altsys.html http://www.explorepub.com/articles/light_therapy.html http://www.healthbasic.com/english/tcm/acupuncture/index.shtml http://www.holisticonline.com/acp-meridians.htm http://www.icmart.org/icmart00/abstract/post10.html http://www.immunet.org/FactSheets/703-acupuncture.html http://www.index-china.com/index-english/TCM-s.html http://www.infratonicqgm.com/ http://www.integrative-medicine.com/sourcacu.html http://www.i-sis.org/lcm.shtml http://www.ivas.org/Vet.html http://www.lcta.com/herbalism.html http://www.medboo.com/eng/herbsgarden/main.htm http://www.medboo.com/eng/palace/acup.htm http://www.medboo.com/eng/palace/books.htm http://www.medboo.com/eng/palace/history.htm http://www.medboo.com/eng/training/faq.htm http://www.medicinechinese.com/intro.html http://www.meridiantherapies.co.uk/gallo02.html http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/taotecng.html http://www.njutcm.edu.cn/caisam.htm http://www.njutcm.edu.cn/eam2.htm http://www.paradigm-pubs.com/html/chdrta.html http://www.paradigm-pubs.com/refs/acupuncture.html http://www.paralumun.com/acupuncture.htm http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Bodywork/mercat17.htm http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/ak.html http://www.rmhiherbal.org/ai/pharintro.html http://www.rosedaleclinic.com/ http://www.sandiegoacupuncture.com/acupunctureworks.htm http://www.seniors-connection.com/05011999a.html http://www.smokefreekids.com/acubook.htm http://www.sourcenaturals.com/altpgs/tradchimed.html http://www.suninstitute.com/acupuncture.asp http://www.surfingto.com/health/acupuncture/starbanner.htm http://www.surfwise.com/acupuncture/auricula.htm http://www.tcmcollege.com/bookstor.htm http://www.txzenshiatsu.com/ http://www.webacu.com/mt_1.htm http://www.webusers.warwick.net/~u1038114 maxblack wrote: > Hi, > > Dennis, Thank you for the info. I did enjoy it. > > I wonder do you know is there any good site for Chinese acupuncture, > and the > meridians system? > > > Max > > > - > " Timelord " <qtech > > Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:42 AM > Chakras and Kundalini explained > > > > Hello Group > > > > This link will take you to a site, which can supply, in my > experience, > > one of the most purest discriptions of all that you would ever want > to > > know about Kundalini, > > Chakras, and Reality Creation. > > > > Enjoy > > Dennis... > > > > http://www.lazaris.com/media/search.cfm#217 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 What problems might be brought on by the kundalini experience? -Anne-Louise. > Timelord <qtech > Organization: Netscape Online member > > Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:09:12 +0000 > > Re: Chakras and Kundalini explained > > Hello again Max, > > On the site www.lazaris.com there is a set of two tapes " The Mysterious > power of the Chakras " > that explains in depth, all that you would ever want to Know about the > subject. > This material can take you beyond any possible human explanation of the > subject, > and because of which, will free you of any problems brought on by the > Kundalini experience. > > Kindest Regards > Dennis... > > > P.S. > > The list below may be of interest to you on the subject " Chinese > acupuncture, and the > meridians system. > > http://dmoz.org/Health/Alternative/Acupuncture_and_Chinese_Medicine/ > http://health.discovery.com/altmed/tnp/CID/CID30Area12Page2.html > http://home.earthlink.net/~healerhen3ry/Massage.htm > http://kizuna.ins.cwru.edu/asia110/projects/Tang2/hist.html > http://members.aol.com/pganzel/my.html > http://onhealth.com/ch1/resource/althealth/item,44854.asp > http://pessoal.mandic.com.br/voli/acupvil.htm > http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro98/202s98-paper1/Christensen.html > > http://skepdic.com/akinesiology.html > http://tcm.medboo.com/palace/index.htm > http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/micros.html > http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~btcarrol/skeptic/acupunc.html > http://www.acupuncture.com/Acup/back.htm > http://www.acupuncture.com/Acup/Works.htm > http://www.acupuncture.com/Mktplace/Book1.htm > http://www.acupuncture-herbs.com/ > http://www.acupunctureschool.com/ > http://www.aidsinfonet.org/703-acupuncture.html > http://www.americanwholehealth.com/library/acupuncture/acufaq.htm > http://www.billnelson.com/other/walkabout.htm > http://www.botanicum.com/acuahmedresearch.html > http://www.china-guide.com/acupuncture/meridian.html > http://www.china-guide.com/alt-medi.htm > http://www.china-guide.com/meridian.html > http://www.china-guide.com/textbook.htm > http://www.chinese-pump.com/diffe.htm > http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/17/24/02.html > http://www.csicop.org/si/9509/chi.html > http://www.drcounts.com/acupunc.html > http://www.elixir.net/RRFiles/RR_nih-1c-altsys.html > http://www.explorepub.com/articles/light_therapy.html > http://www.healthbasic.com/english/tcm/acupuncture/index.shtml > http://www.holisticonline.com/acp-meridians.htm > http://www.icmart.org/icmart00/abstract/post10.html > http://www.immunet.org/FactSheets/703-acupuncture.html > http://www.index-china.com/index-english/TCM-s.html > http://www.infratonicqgm.com/ > http://www.integrative-medicine.com/sourcacu.html > http://www.i-sis.org/lcm.shtml > http://www.ivas.org/Vet.html > http://www.lcta.com/herbalism.html > http://www.medboo.com/eng/herbsgarden/main.htm > http://www.medboo.com/eng/palace/acup.htm > http://www.medboo.com/eng/palace/books.htm > http://www.medboo.com/eng/palace/history.htm > http://www.medboo.com/eng/training/faq.htm > http://www.medicinechinese.com/intro.html > http://www.meridiantherapies.co.uk/gallo02.html > http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/taotecng.html > http://www.njutcm.edu.cn/caisam.htm > http://www.njutcm.edu.cn/eam2.htm > http://www.paradigm-pubs.com/html/chdrta.html > http://www.paradigm-pubs.com/refs/acupuncture.html > http://www.paralumun.com/acupuncture.htm > http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Bodywork/mercat17.htm > http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/ak.html > http://www.rmhiherbal.org/ai/pharintro.html > http://www.rosedaleclinic.com/ > http://www.sandiegoacupuncture.com/acupunctureworks.htm > http://www.seniors-connection.com/05011999a.html > http://www.smokefreekids.com/acubook.htm > http://www.sourcenaturals.com/altpgs/tradchimed.html > http://www.suninstitute.com/acupuncture.asp > http://www.surfingto.com/health/acupuncture/starbanner.htm > http://www.surfwise.com/acupuncture/auricula.htm > http://www.tcmcollege.com/bookstor.htm > http://www.txzenshiatsu.com/ > http://www.webacu.com/mt_1.htm > http://www.webusers.warwick.net/~u1038114 > > maxblack wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Dennis, Thank you for the info. I did enjoy it. >> >> I wonder do you know is there any good site for Chinese acupuncture, >> and the >> meridians system? >> >> >> Max >> >> >> - >> " Timelord " <qtech >> >> Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:42 AM >> Chakras and Kundalini explained >> >> >>> Hello Group >>> >>> This link will take you to a site, which can supply, in my >> experience, >>> one of the most purest discriptions of all that you would ever want >> to >>> know about Kundalini, >>> Chakras, and Reality Creation. >>> >>> Enjoy >>> Dennis... >>> >>> http://www.lazaris.com/media/search.cfm#217 >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Anne-Louise... > What problems might be brought on by the kundalini experience? > Check the following site: http://members.aol.com/ckress/symptoms.html -- --------------------------- Joel P. Bowman, Ph.D. Email: joel.bowman Department of Business Information Systems Western Michigan University http://spider.hcob.wmich.edu/~bowman --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Anne-Louise asked: >What problems might be brought on by the kundalini experience? Incompletion, whereby the energy gets caught or locked up in one chakra. This can cause gross addicition to that chakra. Second chakra addiction could bring insatiable appetites, 3rd. unwanted aggression etc. rusty http://www.pacificcoast.net/~rustym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 Thank you, Dennis, Sometimes I wonder which search machine are you using? Max - " Timelord " <qtech Friday, January 12, 2001 4:09 AM Re: Chakras and Kundalini explained > Hello again Max, > > On the site www.lazaris.com there is a set of two tapes " The Mysterious > power of the Chakras " > that explains in depth, all that you would ever want to Know about the > subject. > This material can take you beyond any possible human explanation of the > subject, > and because of which, will free you of any problems brought on by the > Kundalini experience. > > Kindest Regards > Dennis... > > > P.S. > > The list below may be of interest to you on the subject " Chinese > acupuncture, and the > meridians system. > > http://dmoz.org/Health/Alternative/Acupuncture_and_Chinese_Medicine/ > http://health.discovery.com/altmed/tnp/CID/CID30Area12Page2.html > ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 Hello Anne-Louise, > What problems might be brought on by the kundalini experience? The problem is, the misinterpretation of the actual experience which can be distorted due to the lower nature, which are Survival, Sexual, Emotional ,which correspond to the first, second, and third Chakras, the change in perception brought about by kundalini activation requires a total reorientation, which can only be brought about by pure nonjudgement of the experience. This is why, all of the teachings of old are all based upon self purification. If you have been through the self purification, then gradually activated the chakras under strict guidance, you would have no problem, but alas there are many that have not, manifested that path. Kind Regards Dennis... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 HI!I went to that last site mentioned about what could happen if you awakened the kundalini energy prematurly.This sounds so scary to me.How common is this of happening?Is it that easy to trigger or a rare thing?Arent there sighns before that happens?Also once that happens isnt there a way to balance yourself out ? Thank you!--- Timelord <qtech wrote: > Hello Anne-Louise, > > > > What problems might be brought on by the kundalini > experience? > > The problem is, the misinterpretation of the actual > experience which can > be distorted due to the lower nature, which are > Survival, Sexual, > Emotional ,which correspond to the first, second, > and third Chakras, the > change in perception brought about by kundalini > activation requires a > total reorientation, which can only be brought about > by pure > nonjudgement of the experience. > This is why, all of the teachings of old are all > based upon self > purification. If you have been through the self > purification, then > gradually activated the chakras under strict > guidance, you would have no > problem, but alas there are many that have not, > manifested that path. > > Kind Regards > Dennis... > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > **************************************** > Visit the community page: > > For administrative problems > -owner > To , > - > > All messages, files and archives of this forum are > copyright of the group and the individual > authors. > Photos - Share your holiday photos online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2001 Report Share Posted January 13, 2001 The big problem with the kundalini question, is that so few people know what it really is. Further, there is a lack of understanding of the bodies etheric system, the chakras, and the planes of vibration. This does not make for easy learning for those who are without a teacher of genuine attainment. I will do my best to explain. Kundalini is a highly refined energy which rises up the shushumna channel through the spine, until it reaches the crown of the head. In order to do this there must be no blockages in the etheric (energy) body, and both the Grande (between the solar plexus and the heart, and at the throat) 'gateways' must be fully opened. In addition to this, the etheric system must be ready for the extreme 'voltage' of kundalini. Anyone who has truly 'raised' Kundalini (and there are very very few) are Masters. Not suddenly or instantaneously, because much illumination is gained through the preparation over many years of effort. I know one Master personally, and it took him 10 years preparation. The effect of Kundalini is a state higher than Enlightenment known as Liberation. Alongside Kundalini (which is a singular, unified energy) are two channels which run up the sides of the spine, Ida and Pingala. These sit in the realm of opposition, and are balanced in the Adept prior to Kundalini being raised. It IS possible to send a bolt of energy through one of these channels, which are very powerful in their own right (these are the channels that control powers) and to mistakenly believe that you have raised Kundalini. This can result in strange abilities and is usually accompanied by terrible side effects. One chap I read about who was trying to raise Kundalini actually succeeded in opening the Pingala channel, which gave him access to the fire element. He could mentally direct a sheet of paper to burn from a distance, but couldn't control the energy and could not sleep properly, and was in terrible pain, like a burning sensation, until he eventually managed to shut it off again. Fortunately, it is also a fleeting energy, in that it comes and goes and is not consistant, and he recognised that he had not raised Kundalini at all, but had opened this channel. The reward of Kundalini is is the All-Self Knowing-Liberated state of awareness which puts a continual, controllable charge through ALL of the chakras, all of the time. This is why a Master is always calm, harmonious and centred, and is never short of power. It is possible to have a mental 'shock', where the illumined or enlightened state is achieved by 'accident'. This can occurr through exreme breathing exercises or drug use (I know someone this happened to, and he's been affected by it ever since). The problem is that these people do not understand what has happened to them, and it can leave the recipient is a great deal of mental anguish from which they might never recover. Certainly, it does not leave them Illuminated, and has not provided any visible benefit at all. (At this point, I decided to check out the URL's you sent - Interesting is it not, that my comments concerning the Ida and Pingala channels being confused with Kundalini are mimicked in these letters and symptoms. I.e. Intense hot and cold, twitching, lack of sex drive, sleeping disorder, and use of drugs). My conclusion on the people who submitted letters and the website itself is that we have yet more people who are making assumptions about Kundalini, and who do not understand the energetic mechanism of the body, and are unaware of the appropriate preparation. Just to finish. You don't actually need to raise Kundalini to achieve Liberation. Just thought I'd mention it!! Hope this helps. -Anne-Louise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2001 Report Share Posted January 13, 2001 >HI!I went to that last site mentioned about what could >happen if you awakened the kundalini energy >prematurly.This sounds so scary to me.How common is >this of happening? May be related, may be not: A couple of years ago someone I was very fond of committed suicide. Just this very week I was looking through some old backups and found an interview he'd given my wife when she was working in mental health provision in our home city. (let's call him Brian) According to the interview Brian's problems had begun when he'd attended a 'life improvement' course. He'd felt elated, 'god-like', changed. Unfortunately the state didn't last, he didn't attend the follow up sessions, and he ended up having a psychotic episode which put him in a psychiatric hospital for a couple of months. The experience scarred him, and it was when he was heading (or believed he was heading) for another episode that he killed himself. I think I remember Carl Rogers the psychotherapist talking about the problem of sending people out of therapeutic environments back into real life and expecting their changes to be well received and to hold. I suspect the warnings that are applied to Kundalini should be applied to any attempt to affect a life change. Ged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2001 Report Share Posted January 13, 2001 Read " The Liquid Light of Sex " Barbara Hand Clow or And The Sun is Up; Kundalini rises in the west by W. Thomas Wolfe or Handbook to Higher Consciousness by Keys A number of webpages -- lost bookmarks in puter crash Namaste The Reiki Lady North Texas and South West Oklahoma ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 >or Handbook to Higher Consciousness by Keys Hi Reike Lady: just a note on the Handbook to Higher Consciousness. Author is Ken Keyes jr. Pronounced like eyes with a K in the front. I attended the final month at Berkeley before the move to Cornucopia. Another student, Roedy Green, has this list of Ken's works at: http://mindprod.com/kensbooks.html My living love pathway has led me, 20 years later, to this: http://www.pacificcoast.net/~rustym/ living love, rusty reikilady1 <reikilady1 Saturday, January 13, 2001 12:31 PM Re: Re: Chakras and Kundalini explained >Read " The Liquid Light of Sex " Barbara Hand Clow > >or And The Sun is Up; Kundalini rises in the west by W. Thomas Wolfe > >or Handbook to Higher Consciousness by Keys > >A number of webpages -- lost bookmarks in puter crash > >Namaste >The Reiki Lady >North Texas and South West Oklahoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 My Keyes book is one of the original -- my cousin is a Ph. D. psychologist and because I am reiki -- he gave me many books that are 20 - 30 years old. I can be quirky but he can't Namaste The Reiki Lady North Texas and South West Oklahoma ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Anna-Louise thank you for the education you put it very well. My understanding of the kundalini is that it is coiled at the bade of the spine and is awakened through breathing yoga meditation purification of the body and mind. It doesn't necessarily mean a bolt lightening experience the energy is very subtle light joyful and liberating I feel it all comes from the breath and bringing more prana into the body and breathing into the space of one's being. having body awareness. thank you again Namaste, Ariel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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