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> I'm new to the group and lately I've been unfortunate

> enough to get a horrible rash of what appears to be

> either poison oak or poison ivy. i live in berkeley

> and am told that it's more likely to be poison oak.

> anyway, i'm deathly allergic and have tried

> homeopathic remedies, but the rash continues to

> spread. i've been resisting going to a doctor, but

> i'm losing hope. does anyone know of a good cure for

> this?

>

> thanks,

> carla

 

Carla

 

The suggestions others have mentioned are good...along with the paste, you

will want to add 5-10 drops of peppermint essential oil for the itching and

some lavender oil for healing...I have used some witch hazel with peppermint

oil added for any skin itchy ailment with good luck! You may also want to

take some Echinacea tincture (health food stores) to boost the immune system,

so it passes quickly...I'd take 1-2 dropperfuls at least 4 times a day....

 

Katy

Master Herbalist...

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I've read the interview with Carolyn Myss, Ph.D.

and I must say that it made me sad.

One of the troubles with " Main stream Medicine " is it's passionate love

affair with diagnosis.

This has to do with a wider and deeper tendency to link security with

knowledge.

Well, diagnosis has little to do with healing. Healing can be achieved also

without diagnosis.

As we are maturing in our scientific outlook, meaning letting the

conversation be more open, include wider cultural fields, the insistence to

know [in order to be secure], is in my eyes a regression to an earlier

dogmatic approach.

What is diagnosis?

Diagnosys is no more than a tool, which says " we can not treat every

individual for their condition is unique, let's drag them into the nearest

meaning field and treat what we recognize as " disorder " or illness.

This is true for linear thinking, because in this kind of thinking you have

to put something in the center of your meaning field.

But we have an alternative it is called holistic thinking. Where you look at

the person as a whole.

Diagnosis has a problem with that. Once you what the problem is [by

diagnosing] you treat the definition you found and not the human in front of

you. Knowing is a too strong a word for it. [Even doctors use suspect rather

then know].

The danger is that you can be wrong. And if you are wrong suspecting nothing

happens. But if you're wrong knowing then you are stupid, and your whole

self confidence can be damaged.

It is often the case that by overstressing something to make a stronger

claim [because basically we are insecure] only stresses our insecurity when

we realize that we had been mistaken.

There is nothing wrong with a mistake. There is something wrong stressing

knowledge a basis for security.

We can suspect, guess, learn from past mistakes, invent and refute private

or general theories as we go along, all these done softly don't harm one

flow, and we can invite others to this flow too [including diagnosing MDs],

but once you say you know, the flow is endangered, the other's opinion is

endangered.

Not knowing can be fun. Knowing our not needing to know in order to be

secure, is wisdom. Only not knowing allows us to explore and find out in a

blissful flow, diagnosing as guessing can be part of it, diagnosing as

knowing, can't.

Have a nice creative day

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> Not knowing can be fun. Knowing our not needing to know in order to be

> secure, is wisdom. Only not knowing allows us to explore and find out in a

> blissful flow, diagnosing as guessing can be part of it, diagnosing as

> knowing, can't.

> Have a nice creative day

>

Anand:

 

I hate to seem sarcastic or difficult, but there are many people out there who

have had physical, emotional and

mental disorders that are not having fun not knowing what is wrong, because they

cannot explore the causations of

their dis-ease or alternatives for healing. And we all know that healing does

not mean the same thing as curing,

though palliation of symptoms is usually what most people are looking for.

 

I don't think you are being particularly responsible in saying that diagnosis is

always dogmatic, regressive or

immature. Healing CAN be achieved without formal medical diagnosis, but I

guarantee you it cannot be achieved

without acknowledgement of the root causation, be that physical, emotional,

mental, spiritual or energetic. If you

have no idea where to start, and most people do not, you are shooting in the

dark at a moving target.

 

Don't be so quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Medicine has an

important place in the care and

treatment of people, for many reasons, not the least of which is the aspect of

faith. If you take a person's faith

away and do not replace it with something else they can trust, you are damning

them.

 

Yes, it is important to look at a person as a whole; diagnosing a specific

disorder does not mean that you cannot

treat a person holistically, or explore various levels of causation. There is no

reason to believe that once you

know what is going on with your body then you are stuck... if you were not stuck

to begin with you would not have

anything wrong with your body, would you? Your theory is flawed at its base.

 

--

Blessings,

Crow

" Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

--

--

Caroline " Crow " Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT, CH, MTC

Certified in Healing Touch, Reiki, Hypnotherapy and Chios

AIM: CaroCrow

URL: http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance

 

" We see things not as they are but as we are. " The Talmud

 

" We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we

created them. " Albert Einstein

 

" I like big work. Why do small? Why be ordinary when you can be extraordinary? "

Caroline Myss

 

" A master is like an ocean. Ocean is there, readily available. It does not

reject anybody. " Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

 

When seeking a guide for a path, choose someone who also walks it.

 

 

 

 

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I'm one of those people. You're right, it's no fun at all. I've had a series

of represeentatives of a variety of modalities try to figure out what's

going on with me for the past five years.

 

Diagnosis is nothing more complex than using scientific method to limit the

possible number of causes associated with a given ailment. Scientific method

has gotten a bad rap in our business, largely because of allopaths who don't

understand it. But, make no mistake, everyone in the healing biz diagnoses

to at least some extent. We're generally prohibited by law from saying that

we are, but if it walks like a duck....

 

I'm not sure what is meant by " diagnosing as knowing. " If the term is meant

to indicate those who decide that they have the one, single cause of the

problem and won't budge regardless of any contrary data, then I agree. If

the statment means those who prescribe treatment for conditions they can't

explain while claiming to be operating scientifically, then I agree again.

If it means ignoring important data because it didn't come from the right

kind of specialist, I'm still there.

 

On the other hand, the statement taken as a whole seemed to favor

intentionally remaining clueless as being advantageous. Perhaps for some

people it is. I find that careful observation combined with scientific

method is generally the best way to go. The trick is that science is not

very helpful when data is inadequate. When your initial premises are

inaccurate, logic can lead you astray faster than anything. so, we need to

know when and how to mix science and empiricism. More to the point, we need

to teach our allopathic colleague how to do so.

 

I believe that our approach is superior to that of allopathy because we have

the latitude to ignore science in those situations where it's not

appropriate. In that way, we have a tool that they don't. It doesn't mean

that we shouldn't use their intellectual tools when it is appropriate.

 

 

 

>Caroline Abreu To:

> Re: Digest Number 504 Date:

>Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:14:38 -0500

>

> > Not knowing can be fun. Knowing our not needing to know in order to be >

>secure, is wisdom. Only not knowing allows us to explore and find out in a

> > blissful flow, diagnosing as guessing can be part of it, diagnosing as >

>knowing, can't. > Have a nice creative day > Anand:

>

>I hate to seem sarcastic or difficult, but there are many people out there

>who have had physical, emotional and mental disorders that are not having

>fun not knowing what is wrong, because they cannot explore the causations

>of their dis-ease or alternatives for healing. And we all know that healing

>does not mean the same thing as curing, though palliation of symptoms is

>usually what most people are looking for.

>

>I don't think you are being particularly responsible in saying that

>diagnosis is always dogmatic, regressive or immature. Healing CAN be

>achieved without formal medical diagnosis, but I guarantee you it cannot be

>achieved without acknowledgement of the root causation, be that physical,

>emotional, mental, spiritual or energetic. If you have no idea where to

>start, and most people do not, you are shooting in the dark at a moving

>target.

>

>Don't be so quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Medicine has an

>important place in the care and treatment of people, for many reasons, not

>the least of which is the aspect of faith. If you take a person's faith

>away and do not replace it with something else they can trust, you are

>damning them.

>

>Yes, it is important to look at a person as a whole; diagnosing a specific

>disorder does not mean that you cannot treat a person holistically, or

>explore various levels of causation. There is no reason to believe that

>once you know what is going on with your body then you are stuck... if you

>were not stuck to begin with you would not have anything wrong with your

>body, would you? Your theory is flawed at its base.

>

>--

>Blessings, Crow " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " --

>--

>Caroline " Crow " Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT, CH, MTC Certified in Healing

>Touch, Reiki, Hypnotherapy and Chios AIM: CaroCrow URL:

>http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance

>

> " We see things not as they are but as we are. " The Talmud

>

> " We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we

>created them. " Albert Einstein

>

> " I like big work. Why do small? Why be ordinary when you can be

>extraordinary? " Caroline Myss

>

> " A master is like an ocean. Ocean is there, readily available. It does not

>reject anybody. " Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

>

>When seeking a guide for a path, choose someone who also walks it.

>

>

>

>

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Jim,

 

I agree with you on the use of eight extra vessels -- the Ben Cao Gang Mu is the primary place Li Zhishen recorded this information and, it is extremely useful for clinical herbal applications. The primary reason is because it gives a difering angle of insight which may be the key for cracking a difficult case.

 

Will

 

 

If I remember correctly, the 8-Extra meridians are related to herbs in some editions of the Ben Cao Gang Mu. There's no reason why they shouldn't be used in herbalism. When seeing particular 8-Extra movements in the pulse, you can modify or choose herbal formulas based on the list.

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Hmm... you could look for grants from charitable

foundations- I understand there is grant money

that goes un-given because not enough people

apply.

 

 

 

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in central Mexico and noted a problem with alcoholism within the local

population. I am innovative enough to believe there may be

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leads? I am willing to brainstorm and network. Lori

 

 

 

 

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I need a grant . Can you tell me how?

Brian Carter <bbcarter wrote:Hmm... you could look for grants

from charitable

foundations- I understand there is grant money

that goes un-given because not enough people

apply.

 

 

 

Brian Benjamin Carter

Editor, The Pulse of Oriental Medicine

Columnist, Acupuncture Today

 

The PULSE of Oriental Medicine:

Alternative Medicine You Can Understand

http://www.pulsemed.org/

 

The General Public's Guide to Chinese

Medicine since 1999... 8 Experts,

100+ Articles, 115,000+ readers....

 

Our free e-zine BEING WELL keeps

you up to date with the latest greatest

PULSE articles.

 

Sign up NOW. Send a blank email to:

beingwellnewsletter-

 

Hi...jason and Bobbi...I am a new graduate of TCM. I would relish the

opportunity to work in Mexico or other location abroad. I can not do

it indefinitely without getting paid. My mother has been a missionary

in central Mexico and noted a problem with alcoholism within the local

population. I am innovative enough to believe there may be

opportunity and need for acupuncture programs in Mexico...the

challenge would be getting them (thus ourselves) funded. Any ideas or

leads? I am willing to brainstorm and network. Lori

 

 

 

 

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Chefck the following website for a listing of non-profit orgs that give grants

for all diff. types of business/ needs. I think their is a sign in fee but

after that you can search by every different fiueld available.......location,

type of need, type of assistance.

 

http://fconline.fdncenter.org/

 

I hope it helps.

 

 

 

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Thanks

Pete Zizzi <ziz024 wrote:Chefck the following website for a listing

of non-profit orgs that give grants

for all diff. types of business/ needs. I think their is a sign in fee but

after that you can search by every different fiueld available.......location,

type of need, type of assistance.

 

http://fconline.fdncenter.org/

 

I hope it helps.

 

 

 

Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more

http://taxes./

 

 

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