Digest 504/ diagnosis

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At 21:17 1/2/1, Anand wrote:\

>One of the troubles with " Main stream Medicine " is it's passionate love

>affair with diagnosis..........

>Well, diagnosis has little to do with healing. Healing can be achieved also

>without diagnosis............

>Not knowing can be fun.....................

>Please bear with me. I know it sounds very difficult what I am saying, but I

>wouldn't have said it without 17 years of everyday treatment with people.......

 

 

 

I have to say my own experience doesn't second Anand Avid " s ideas at all.

 

I think that when a country is invaded it's too late to start praying and

changing the political system. You have to fight for your life. Only after

you have repelled the invaders can you have a re election and start

looking at beliefs which instigated the problems..

 

As a nurse, with 30 years experience, I know I was often insensitive to

what was going on in my patients mind but then I developed an unknown

disorder and was in so much pain there were days I couldn't walk. I was

losing all hope of having a life worth living. Because no diagnosis could

be found I was told it was all in my mind.

People do often say, with such despair, that you have to experience to

truly " know " what it feels like. Now I know what they mean.

 

For me, being told I had a mental problem that was making me so sick , made

it seem like the world has judged and found you wanting. It shatters your

self esteem as you doubt yourself because all around seem to believe you

are shamming illness for some obscure reason.

I know how disturbing it is to your sense of self to be exhausted, weak

and in pain and being told you are imagining it.

 

You try the exercise programs and not only do they not work for you, but

you actually feel worse. You know you would have to be mad to create that

sort of

world for yourself.

There was only one conclusion to be drawn. I must be insane.

 

Detecting abnormalities took away the mental stigma. I was given hope by

the results of those tests, even though they told me I had serious medical

problems. I felt empowered. If this is physical then I can do something

about it.

 

 

Anand wrote: > Knowing our not needing to know in order to be

>secure, is wisdom. Only not knowing allows us to explore and find out in a

>blissful flow, diagnosing as guessing can be part of it, diagnosing as

>knowing, can't.

 

For me it wasn't bliss not knowing. It was crippling, depressing and

hopeless. How can you deny the body its right to be heard when it screams

in pain ?.

Once I had found the demon I knew I could slay it.

 

I could then ask why did it happen? where did this come from? Why was I

vulnerable?

That needs the inner work. Mental healing resulted in a growth of

consciousness and more awareness and a re-election of new governing

thoughts, more spiritual awareness.

 

The story of my search for health can be found at

http://www.spirit.net.au/~masmith/docs/stories/liz.htm

 

Anand says I say:

>This is the basic dogmatic thought [no matter what the dogma is]: " let us

>stick with what we have because to do otherwise could be dangerous "

 

I sometimes think that energy therapists are just as vulnerable as the

medical profession and can become just as blinkered to the bodymind

connection.

 

Anand says:> I think theories are matter of faith, and having faith in

medicine is good,

>but keeping in mind that we all do mistakes all the time, is really making

>us free

 

Agreed.

 

Cheers

Liz