Guest guest Posted February 18, 2001 Report Share Posted February 18, 2001 Hi Arleen, I'd like to hear more about how you work. I am a firm believer that there is an interaction between mind-body-spirit in physical illness/health. However, I do not go so far as to say there is a 100% correlation. I'm always open to finding out more, though, and believe that we (in the healing professions) need to have a greater respect for this approach. One of the problems, as in anything, is to sift out the wheat from the chaf. This is difficult to do without good, solid research. I know there is remarkable work being done regarding the effects of prayer and healing in double-bind studies. We need to find a way to do more of this with other healing modalities, too. I am not a researcher myself. Any researchers out there willing to tackle this? God bless. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 How true, Crow. Learning to live fully is not the same as living perfectly---and fully for one person is different from fully for another person. I read something today that I like---learning to deal effectively with the negative as more important than being positive. Balance, balance, balance. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 Just read Katy's lovely warm note to Gina and loved the welcoming tone of it but wanted to mention that many healers that I know get really exasperated with some of Louise Hays' simplistic ideas of what disease is about and would just as soon burn her books. Please note that I am not saying that everyone feels that way or implying that there is not some useful information in there.... I wanted to mention this only because it can be very painful and not useful for someone to read a simple explanation for their " problem/imbalance/disease " and then feel bad/incompetent or a failure if they cannot " cure " it with the little simplistic ideas mentioned. One simple example, she says that reocurring sinus infections are a sign of deeply rooted anger. In my humble opinion they are a sign of an opportunistic bacteria that can live in your sinus' ever after a first infection and will go into imbalance each time you have excess mucus in your sinus' to give it a breeding ground. Yes, there may be reasons why you have excess mucus but they are, in my opinion, unlikely to be because of buried anger....and more likely to be nutritional or a viral cold. By the way....a cure for sinus infection that works well for those I know who've tried it (including me) is to use colloidal silver (I dilute it by half) as nose drops. I used it once and it killed the bacteria and I've never had a sinus infection since. Just snuff it up into the sinus' and blow out...continue (remember to blow gently....go easy on the nose) until you feel that you're getting the colloidal mixture fully into the sinus'. Okay, long enough post. Just wanted to put that out there. I hope that any who love Louise Hays' work will post their experiences of what of her work has worked for them. winter blessings, Kathrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 Hi there I am a so-called healer... and all my work revolves arround the mind and the roll emotions play in ill health... so far... not one case that I have worked with has NOT had an emotional cause... all of the cases that I have worked with are caused by an emotional backlog... and all have been *cured* by emotional release and mind/spirit work... changing attitudes, beleif systems etc... so do not underestimate how powerful these so-called simplistic methods are. There is an interesting saying... *the issue is in the tissue*. I could go on to a whole indeapth description/discussion as to why this is so... etc... but feel that is not necessary. Get to the root of the problem (mostly emotional) and you will get rid of the problem. Blessings Arleen ps.. while I am not a Louise Hay practioner at all.. I can verify many of her findings though the work that I do. Body Alignment Technique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 My day job is as a Master's Level Counselor. When clients come with a laundry list of complaints I always reach for Louise Hay. It is better than some of my textbooks@ Namaste and Makia The Reiki Lady North Texas and South West Oklahoma ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 Celeste: The limitations lie not so much with our minds but with our interpretations and intentions. Since we are not omniscient and seldom have a wide enough perspective to see what we are supposed to be learning from our circumstances, we interpret a lot of things as problems and " bad " that may in the long run prove to be valuable, if not comfortable, lessons. While I'm not endorsing an idea that we don't need to take an active role in our health and comfort, I do think that there is a personal aspect to it, which is seeking perfection, that is somewhat unrealistic, at least on this plane. Something a lot of people seem to ignore is the fact that we are born to die, and are naturally limited by the parameters of our physical bodies and circumstances. That is as it should be, and honestly, I think we choose those limitations for a reason... however, since as I said before, pain is inevitable but suffering is optional, when we begin to realize that we are bordering on the personally intolerable in the pain we have chosen, it may be time to choose an easier path that we can still use to learn our lessons. That is where self-actualization, healing and proactive change come in. In hypnosis we talk a lot about the critical factor that stands between the conscious mind and the subconscious... between what we think we see, and what is really there, in other words. The critical factor is the filter that keeps us grounded in middle world reality, and it has its practical uses for morals, structure, and group-think. But it can also trigger the lack of focus through doubt that keeps us from enjoying our personal miracles. A story that reminds me of this is the Biblical story of Jesus and Peter walking on the water. Peter at first believes he is capable, yet allows his personal fears to get in the way, and starts sinking. Jesus chides him gently for letting go of his focus ( " Oh ye of little faith " ) and helps him up. When I am troubled by doubt this is a story that comforts me; doubt and worry cloud my ability to see the miracles in my life. I recently ran across a quote from Einstein that reads " There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. " No matter how small the progress, even if it is simply a shift in perception, healing has begun. It is so important to remember to be patient... we seldom get where we are overnight, so why do we expect it to change that quickly? Blessings, Crow >celeste m sullivan <csull3 > > >Re: Louise Hays' work >Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:31:46 -0600 > >Hi Arleen, > >I'd like to hear more about how you work. I am a firm believer that >there is an interaction between mind-body-spirit in physical >illness/health. However, I do not go so far as to say there is a 100% >correlation. I'm always open to finding out more, though, and believe >that we (in the healing professions) need to have a greater respect for >this approach. One of the problems, as in anything, is to sift out the >wheat from the chaf. This is difficult to do without good, solid >research. I know there is remarkable work being done regarding the >effects of prayer and healing in double-bind studies. We need to find a >way to do more of this with other healing modalities, too. I am not a >researcher myself. Any researchers out there willing to tackle this? > >God bless. > >Celeste _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 Hi Celeste Sorry to take so long to respond to your message... I have just moved and ... well... this is Africa.. and although really quite 1st world in so many ways... are not all govenment institutions 25th world... its taken ages to get our line connected.. from the house next door!!! I promise to reply in depth soon... but must just unpack and set things up... Yep.. the Healing center is about to become opperational as soon as I finish unpacking! Blessings Arleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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