Digest Number 562

[Guest guest]

Briget -- Having *intensely had similar experiences, and listened to stories

which reminded me about this,

I received an insight, which soothed me.

Oftentimes people who are particularly sensitive, functions well/ or better,

at being forewarned. Inside their own sensitive systems, they begin an inner

organization, to prepare,

to structure. When the disaster strikes, they are a step ahead. This will be

more functional, than

being caught totally unawares.

 

Now, as I type- a- chat to you, I embrace the idea, that sensitive people also

'pick up'

on dynamics and patterns. Just like weather patterns guides us to expect certain

manifestations in

other geographic spots.

 

I am grateful for the ointments of words from 'Crow " , our beloved one, on this

Bodymind group.

This time when she talked to you.

Wishing you Starblinkingbeingness,

Ina

 

 

Bridget wrote: " What made me envision

>her death 2 days before it actually happened? See, this is what I mean about

>'thoughts'. I felt so guilty for at least a year after her death, like my

thoughts had caused it to happen.

>Why can't I envision myself winning the Lottery, or my daughter

>becoming a Doctor, or something like that?

>

>Bridget Parker

> Mary Kay, Emerald Star Senior Consultant

> Future Fabulous Fifties Elite Director "

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-- Chinese Medicine

Digest Number 562

 

16. Re: Tongue lashing and consideration

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Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:11:23 -0000

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Re: Tongue lashing and consideration

 

Chinese Medicine , " susie "

<susie@p...> wrote:

> I don't think that Jason is the only contributor to this group who

" tongue

> lashes " other participants. I rarely contribute anything, because I

don't

> want to be ripped apart. It strikes me that there some people on

the list

> who are hear to learn and others who are hear to tell everyone else

how much

> they know and therefore how superior they are. People have many

different

> levels of knowledge and there are many different styles of

acupuncture and

> TCM, so its not clever to point at another and try and show them up,

but it

> is clever if you know a better way of doing something and can

communicate it

> with generosity and kindness and also encourage discussion which

benefits

> all of us.

> Regards

> Susie

>

 

I agree Susie, I would like to clarify my position. 1st – I am not

here to make any friends, I am not here to show any superiority, I am

here for 2 reasons: 1) to be involved in intelligent dialog about CM

and 2) to push the profession into a reality. Let me elaborate on #2

– Which is why I lash out. It is hard to have dialog when basic

knowledge is missing, and this is fine, because as you point out, we

are all at different levels. BUT, a major problem arises when people

purport expertise or make theories up or whatever without any tangible

grasp of reality, meaning knowledge of basic or higher level CM

theory. This is, as stated previous, one of the biggest problems with

practice in the West and makes our profession look like monkeys.

People take, IMO, too much liberty to expand upon theory when they do

not even know the basics and lack the massive amount of clinical

experience needed. – This is not directed at anyone, just the

profession as a whole… (I will be happy to discuss this idea further,

if people disagree)…

 

I for one do not purport anything that I cannot back up with

literature. I do not claim to `know it all', but I am clear what I

know and where it came from… This knowledge may or may not be wrong

(or right), but because I have a source and a pretty good grasp of the

basics we can have an intelligent discussion based on those ideas.

 

I will always point out when others are MSUing or ask for a source.

One should only be offended if they know they are MSUing ( and deny

it), so I suggest always say you are MSUing, or state something from a

source, or keep quite.

 

Furthermore, I said " People moxa phlegm conditions all the time " -

Maybe this is worded poorly, but the intention is clear; Moxa is used

for phlegm conditions by many practitioners, meaning it is not

contradicted for Phlegm (conditions).. IS that hard to understand

(Shanna?)

 

So you ask for Respect, I will give it to anyone who respects the

medicine. IF you don't know, ask, and people will answer, but making

stuff up, IMO, is a quick way to lashing… I have never lashed anyone

who admitted what they didn't know and asked intelligent questions,

and I think that goes for most people… Happy to hear comments…

 

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To JASON !

 

I am appalled that you can express yourself in this forum as you do.

You do not seriously expect us to believe that you are interested in

intellectual discussion.

With your attitude I would prescribe some treatment for anger before

engaging in discussion .

I agree with those others who have expressed disquiet.

 

I find your manner offensive. This is a shame because you have so much to

contribute.

 

We can all learn from each other ...if you find something unacceptable say

so but rethink your methodology / language please.

 

YOU CAN WALK YOUR TALK BUT IT IS USELESS IF NO ONE LISTENS!

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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