Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 <P> In the 'meat vs no meat' debate, I think it is worth considering what the blood type diet has to say. & nbsp; I am not saying it is necessarily perfect, but I have experienced great success myself when I follow it properly. & nbsp; In this diet, people with type A blood are advised not to consume meat, although chicken and turkey are considered neutral. & nbsp; Milk and wheat are also out. & nbsp; People with type O blood, however, should be eating quite a bit of meat. & nbsp; Having read a great deal of the scientific thought behind it, it seems reasonable. & nbsp; It makes sense to think that not everyone (being individuals) should have to follow the same diet. & nbsp; The idea is that the lectins in food resemble the identifying features of our blood type. & nbsp; Therefore the body either recognises them as its own, or rejects and attacks them. & nbsp; It seems to go a long way towards explaing why some blood types are especially disposed to certain types of cancer and so on.</P> <P>If you're interested, the website contains a lot of useful information, and the people on the message board are very helpful. & nbsp; <A href= " http://www.dadamo.com " >www.dadamo.com</A></P> <P>Robyn<BR></P> <P> & nbsp; <B><I>Caroline Abreu & lt;carocrow & gt;</I></B> wrote: <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style= " BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px " ><TT>Anat:<BR>*sigh*<BR><BR>Veganism is a choice; it may be wonderful in some ways but it is not the only choice. & nbsp; We are omnivores, with characteristics of both<BR>vegetarian and carnivorous animals. & nbsp; We should look to balance rather than avoidance or overindulgence as a rule.<BR><BR>A question... if this lady is a strict vegan, I take it that she is taking B12 injections for her problem? & nbsp; If you have pernicious anemia,<BR>which is related to malabsorption, then the injections are a better route and it doesn't matter about the meat. & nbsp; Capsules will do you<BR>little good; unless they are enteric coated they won't make it where they need to go to be absorbed.<BR><BR>I think that vegetarianism as a personal practice, like fasting, can be good as a cleanse, since animal protein is grounding. However, I<BR>personally don't think we should do anything from aversion, rather we should listen to our intuition and look to nature. & nbsp; We can't say we<BR>want natural this-and-that and then refuse to listen to nature when it speaks to us.<BR><BR>You have to remember that I have crow medicine, and crows are not only omnivores, they are carrion eaters ;-) Since it's hard to imagine<BR>being superior to other animals since I am an animal, it is also hard for me to see vegetarianism/veganism as superior to omnivorism<BR>spiritually or physically.<BR><BR>For folks who have a problem eating anything with eyes, I wonder if they have thought about the fact that everything has a consciousness?<BR>Even carrots scream when they are being ripped out of the ground, or the cinnamon tree that is being stripped of its bark for tea. & nbsp; It's a<BR>proven fact that latex allergy is primarily related to a defensive allergen produced by the rubber plant to protect itself from attack!<BR><BR>It is not a matter of consuming/wearing/using a living thing, it is a matter of honoring the living thing for its give away, from cotton to<BR>cows. & nbsp; I refer anyone to indiginous lifeways for this, and challenge you to find a single indiginous group on the globe that does not use<BR>animal protein for food. & nbsp; See how they live and how they behave in regard to the rules of nature and their bodies; nothing is wasted, and<BR>all nutrition is honored equally for its sacrifice.<BR><BR>My HT mentor, Janet Mentgen, is the founder of HT. & nbsp; She has been involved in energy work for many years and is very zen. She is one of the<BR> " brightest " people I know. & nbsp; However, while she was eating vegetarian, she developed a deficiency that eventually became a problem with her<BR>spleen. & nbsp; The prescription? Three ounces of red meat a week. & nbsp; That is a very little bit, and can be snuck into a stir fry, etc. & nbsp; Believe me,<BR>if you can get used to tofu, you can get used to red meat.<BR><BR>Here is a quote for you from healthlink:<BR> " Adequate B12 is important for other reasons than just prevention of anemia. & nbsp; The nervous system also utilizes B12, so a lack of B12 can<BR>result in numbness and tingling of the hands and feet, memory loss, disorientation, depression, and even personality change. " <BR><BR>It's not just B12, it's iron:<BR> " The iron in meat, fish and poultry is in the " heme " form and is absorbed more easily by the body. Vegetables, fruit, grains and eggs<BR>contain " non-heme " iron which is not absorbed as well. Eating meat, fish or poultry and/or having a source of Vitamin C at a meal increases<BR>the absorption of non-heme iron. " <BR><BR>Non-heme forms of iron are bound to some other organic constituent of the food. Cooking tends to break these interactions and increase iron<BR>availability. & nbsp; So if you're looking to vegetables for your iron, you need to cook the vegetables. One classic example of a food that<BR>contains iron that is not readily bioavailable is spinach. & nbsp; In spite of its iron content, it also contains considerable oxalate, which<BR>chelates it and renders it nonabsorbable. (from Net Biochem) Dang, and I *like* spinach ;-)<BR><BR>We're not talking bread, eggs and dairy here. & nbsp; Omitting them from the diet will actually *cause* a reaction when you eat them later,<BR>whether or not you were allergic in the first place. & nbsp; So if you have developed a true food allergy to wheat, eggs or milk products, best to<BR>avoid them now.<BR><BR>Another quote for ya:<BR> " A food allergy is an immune response to a food or a substance, normally a protein or glycoprotein, in a food naturally, or by<BR>contamination, or produced by processing, cooking or digestion. & nbsp; Other adverse reactions to food occur which are not immune responses (and<BR>hence not allergies). These include microbial or chemical food poisoning, and intolerance of specific substances (such as lactose). The<BR>mechanisms of the latter adverse reactions are not fully understood but in the acute form tend to be essentially gastrointestinal upsets,<BR>usually dependent on the amount of the food consumed, and not normally life-threatening. " <BR><BR>But back to meat. & nbsp; There are amino acids there that are vital for the system, and in spite of all the hype as to its dangers, most of that<BR>is because people eat far too much meat, not that they consume it in the first place.<BR><BR>Hope this helps. & nbsp; We all live by free choice, and if we aren't getting what we need because we are doing what we want, then who is to<BR>blame? & nbsp; Take care of your B12 deficiency, whatever it takes for you to do it.<BR><BR>pine wrote:<BR><BR> & gt; i'de like to ask another important question to many vegans and vegeterians:<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; on this evening i met an old woman at the nature food store.<BR> & gt; she was about 80 years old but still she was vivid and energetic. we started talking about the right perfect nutrition and she told me<BR> & gt; that she is a strict vegan but she doesn't play with vit b12 deficiencies anymore.<BR> & gt; " I won't take risks anymore " she said. " i've had enough. " she said that after years of veganism she developped a vit 12 deficiency which<BR> & gt; led to a severe malady (lupus) and to a paralyzed hand.<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; I urge you - not to play with this matter - she said excitedly. eat meat as a remedy even if you hate it<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; I told her that meat disgusts me so she insisted i should take capsules or shots. don't wait until severe things happen... believe me...<BR> & gt; i know what i am talking about<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; on the last blood test i had a deficiency of vit b12 and i started taking the pills but developped allergy and fever as a reaction. so i<BR> & gt; quited. i only know that wen i eat my simple vegan food i feel wonderful light and healthy and my skin glows,<BR> & gt; when i turn to heavy foods like bread and eggs i develop acne and negative reactions,<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; sooooo my question is how to decide. should i be attentive to the blood tests and change my habbits or stick to the way of living as i<BR> & gt; did till now (fruits vegetables almonds and legumes) ?<BR> & gt; usually i feel good although i have difficulties to decide even on prosaic matters .... & nbsp; and i am not a Libra like you ,,,<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; what is your opinion?<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; thanks again for sharing the knowledge.<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; ANAT<BR><BR>--<BR>Blessings,<BR>Crow<BR> " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " <BR>--<BR>--<BR>Caroline " Crow " Abreu<BR>Hypnotherapy * Healing Touch * Reiki * Chios<BR>AIM: CaroCrow ... : NRGbalance<BR>URL: <A href= " http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance " >http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance</\ A><BR><BR>Intuitive Readings:<BR><A href= " http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance/readings.html " >http://www.geocities.co\ m/nrgbalance/readings.html</A><BR><BR>Nam Myoho Renge Kyo<BR>Om Mani Padme Hum<BR>Om Tare Tutare Ture Soha<BR><BR> " We see things not as they are but as we are. 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