Cell Regeneration

[Guest guest]

Rusty:

 

Actually, your lung cells do regenerate (otherwise people who have lung related

illnesses would seldom recover, and people who stop smoking wouldn't be able to

reach the pre-smoking state of lung function, which many do), and there is also

the possibility of regeneration in neural and brain tissue which has been

previously thought impossible. Work with stem cells and electrical stimulation

has provided remarkable forward movement in research in both of these areas.

 

http://biomed.brown.edu/Courses/BI108/BI108_2000_Groups/Stem_Cells/overview/righ\

t_neural.htm

 

http://archneur.ama-assn.org/issues/v56n7/abs/nnr7787.html

 

Some tissues (as I mentioned, the mucous membranes) replicate fairly rapidly.

Drugs used in chemotherapy (as well as radiation) take advantage of that in

order

to target certain phases in the cell cycle; that is why there is usually hair

loss

and oral/gastrointestinal side effects with them.

 

Others, like cardiac muscle, neural tissue and the like are very slow to

replicate

and may need " jump starting " with transplants. I am glad to see stem cell

research expanding into the use of fat cells in addition to fetal cells, not

just

for ethical reasons but for bioavailability and compatability... most of us

would

have our own " storehouse " of transplant possibilities! One of the things that

might have profound effects on our immune response would be reversal of depleted

T-cells which happens as we age and our thymus shrinks.

 

http://www.csa1.co.uk/hottopics/immune-aging/97review13.html

 

The problem with regeneration can be, of course, maladaptation or mutation of

cells from mutagens and carcinogens. If the body does not readily recognize a

cell as aberrent and destroy it, there is the possibility over time of

displacement of normal cells as the abnormal ones replicate (leading to

neoplasm).

It has been theorized that a " dip " in the immune system response can throw the

balance towards neoplastic growth, and such a dip might easily occur after a

shock

to the system, such as a profound physical or emotional trauma.

 

Since they have completed mapping the human genome, we can probably expect a

boom

of research and development such as the telomere research you mentioned (a nice

article, thanks).

 

Blessings,

Crow

 

Rusty Morgan wrote:

 

> Current scientific consensus is that each time a cell replaces itself, the

> telomers tying the ends of the chromosomes shortens and eventually in old age

> the cell can no longer replace itself and the body dies.

> The fewer times the cell has to replace itself the longer the body is capable

of

> staying alive.

> However some cells have much longer telomers than others and can be reproduced

> more often [ those 'mucous membranes of the alimentary canal', f'r instance).

[Guest guest]

Thanks Caroline for the informative links on stem cells and progenitor

cells.

I'm breathing easier now that I know my lungs are regenerating, now

if I can get my brain as good as a mouse's~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

You wrote:

>One of the things that

>might have profound effects on our immune response would be reversal

of depleted

>T-cells which happens as we age and our thymus shrinks.

 

The thymus was once thought to be non functional after puberty but

when the gland was removed, the patients lost their ability to heal.

While the thymus shrinks in size as we age, it apparantly still

functions in our immune system responses.

It's interesting that all primates except humans Thump their thymus on

a regular basis. [Tarzan knew this and he copied the apes].

Donna Eden incorporates the Thymus thump as one of her basic 5

exercises in her book, " Energy Medicine " .

The thymus resides just behing the middle of the breast bone and it's

worth a few thumps daily.

In the articl you linked it says

"

rusty

 

 

 

Caroline Abreu <carocrow

Sunday, April 22, 2001 6:43 PM

Re: Cell Regeneration

 

 

>Rusty:

>

>Actually, your lung cells do regenerate (otherwise people who have

lung related

>illnesses would seldom recover, and people who stop smoking wouldn't

be able to

>reach the pre-smoking state of lung function, which many do), and

there is also

>the possibility of regeneration in neural and brain tissue which has

been

>previously thought impossible. Work with stem cells and electrical

stimulation

>has provided remarkable forward movement in research in both of these

areas.

>

>http://biomed.brown.edu/Courses/BI108/BI108_2000_Groups/Stem_Cells/ov

erview/right_neural.htm

>

>http://archneur.ama-assn.org/issues/v56n7/abs/nnr7787.html

>

>Some tissues (as I mentioned, the mucous membranes) replicate fairly

rapidly.

>Drugs used in chemotherapy (as well as radiation) take advantage of

that in order

>to target certain phases in the cell cycle; that is why there is

usually hair loss

>and oral/gastrointestinal side effects with them.

>

>Others, like cardiac muscle, neural tissue and the like are very slow

to replicate

>and may need " jump starting " with transplants. I am glad to see stem

cell

>research expanding into the use of fat cells in addition to fetal

cells, not just

>for ethical reasons but for bioavailability and compatability... most

of us would

>have our own " storehouse " of transplant possibilities! One of the

things that

>might have profound effects on our immune response would be reversal

of depleted

>T-cells which happens as we age and our thymus shrinks.

>

>http://www.csa1.co.uk/hottopics/immune-aging/97review13.html

>

>The problem with regeneration can be, of course, maladaptation or

mutation of

>cells from mutagens and carcinogens. If the body does not readily

recognize a

>cell as aberrent and destroy it, there is the possibility over time

of

>displacement of normal cells as the abnormal ones replicate (leading

to neoplasm).

>It has been theorized that a " dip " in the immune system response can

throw the

>balance towards neoplastic growth, and such a dip might easily occur

after a shock

>to the system, such as a profound physical or emotional trauma.

>

>Since they have completed mapping the human genome, we can probably

expect a boom

>of research and development such as the telomere research you

mentioned (a nice

>article, thanks).

>

>Blessings,

>Crow

>

>Rusty Morgan wrote:

>

>> Current scientific consensus is that each time a cell replaces

itself, the

>> telomers tying the ends of the chromosomes shortens and eventually

in old age

>> the cell can no longer replace itself and the body dies.

>> The fewer times the cell has to replace itself the longer the body

is capable of

>> staying alive.

>> However some cells have much longer telomers than others and can be

reproduced

>> more often [ those 'mucous membranes of the alimentary canal', f'r

instance).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Caroline, my previous response sent itself before I was through

typing.

The question I wanted to ask was regarding the link at:

http://www.csa1.co.uk/hottopics/immune-aging/97review13.html

Where it states:

" The development of therapies which can reverse thymic aging are

critical for improving outcome in clinical settings of T-cell

depletion, and could potentially improve immunologic function in

normal aged hosts. "

 

Are there any therapies for energizing the thymus that you know of?

rusty

[Guest guest]

Rusty:

 

On an energetic level, the thymus is associated with heart chakra energy... this

is one reason why an approach to immune disorders from an energetic standpoint

will normally include work in forgiveness and self love. Any issue that affects

us in a way that causes us to feel resentment or guilt can serve as a block to

recovery from these disorders, and for all we know, may in fact be part of their

causation.

 

Protracted grief is another emotion that affects the immune system, and that

again

is a heart issue.

 

http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance/heart.html

 

I don't know from whence came the original information, but before Donna Eden

and

her book, people were teaching " thymus thumping " (one of my teachers in HT

showed

it to us as an 'aside' about a decade ago), although it isn't as vigorous as

King

Kong or Tarzan! It's done with the hand held loosely curved, the fingertips

percussing the upper sternum until it feels uncomfortable and then stopping. (I

imagine you'd have to adapt it slightly if you have long nails LOL) This can be

done whenever you feel like it. I don't know of any research surrounding it,

but

hey, it feels pretty good to do it anyway, and I like to believe that my thymus

is

doing a good job.

 

Thanks for the converse ;-)

Crow

 

Rusty Morgan wrote:

 

> The thymus was once thought to be non functional after puberty but when the

> gland was removed, the patients lost their ability to heal.

> While the thymus shrinks in size as we age, it apparantly still functions in

our

> immune system responses.

> It's interesting that all primates except humans Thump their thymus on a

regular

> basis. [Tarzan knew this and he copied the apes].

> Donna Eden incorporates the Thymus thump as one of her basic 5 exercises in

her

> book, " Energy Medicine " .

> The thymus resides just behing the middle of the breast bone and it's worth a

> few thumps daily.

[Guest guest]

Rusty:

 

In addition to the " energetic maintenance " I mentioned in my last post, I am

sure

there are immune system boosters to be found in dietary supplements,

aromatherapy,

etc. The stem cell research I commented on seems to be the focus of most

current

scientific research in this area, though.

 

I have fibromyalgia, and occasionally use a handheld TENS unit on trigger

points,

especially along the costal margins of my upper chest when they tighten up after

stretching. I've often wondered how that mild electrical stimulation affects my

thymus. It would be interesting to see some solid research in the use of

electrical stim, magnetics and even tachyon for thymus stimulation.

 

Of course, I don't think anything really beats good old hands on bodywork and

energy work to stimulate endorphins and enkephalins and support relaxation,

which

is really important in healing on any level... and ya gotta turn that compost

every so often ;-)

 

In addition to that is the connection through the subconscious mind through

meditation, visualization, and self hypnosis. They use biofeedback and

visualization in working with children who have a diagnosis of various invasive

disorders to empower them and have discovered there can be profound effects in

immune stimulation from it. Like the Seth quotes that Michelle passed along

comment, the best way is not in a confrontative battle with an invader, but in

developing an understanding, detente and eventually a peace treaty with the

rogue

cells. After all, the cells emerged from the system, they did not come from

somewhere else... so they are not really invaders, they are misguided family

members ;-)

 

Rusty Morgan wrote:

 

> Hi Caroline, my previous response sent itself before I was through typing.

> The question I wanted to ask was regarding the link at:

> http://www.csa1.co.uk/hottopics/immune-aging/97review13.html

> Where it states:

> " The development of therapies which can reverse thymic aging are critical for

> improving outcome in clinical settings of T-cell depletion, and could

> potentially improve immunologic function in normal aged hosts. "

>

> Are there any therapies for energizing the thymus that you know of?

> rusty

 

--

Blessings,

Crow

" Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

--

[Guest guest]

oh wow, good info, thumping on my chest as we speak.

thanks,

love,

connie

 

> " Rusty Morgan " <rustym

>

> Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:47:25 -0700

>

> Re: Re: Cell Regeneration

>

>

> The thymus was once thought to be non functional after puberty but

> when the gland was removed, the patients lost their ability to heal.

> While the thymus shrinks in size as we age, it apparantly still

> functions in our immune system responses.

> It's interesting that all primates except humans Thump their thymus on

> a regular basis. [Tarzan knew this and he copied the apes].

> Donna Eden incorporates the Thymus thump as one of her basic 5

> exercises in her book, " Energy Medicine " .

> The thymus resides just behing the middle of the breast bone and it's

> worth a few thumps daily.

[Guest guest]

Hi Rick,

<<Are there any therapies for energizing the thymus that you know of?>>

 

I often feel drawn to rub or massage my family and myself in the area of

the thymus, especially my diabetic husband when he is being particularly

grumpy. The Yoga position " the cobra " is supposed to stimulate the thymus

gland also, as well as connect the heart and throat chakras

Ninox

[Guest guest]

Me too! :-D

Audrey

 

, tink-im <tink-im@c...> wrote:

> oh wow, good info, thumping on my chest as we speak.

> thanks,

> love,

> connie

>

> > " Rusty Morgan " <rustym@p...>

> >

> > Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:47:25 -0700

> >

> > Re: Re: Cell Regeneration

> >

> >

> > The thymus was once thought to be non functional after puberty but

> > when the gland was removed, the patients lost their ability to

heal.

> > While the thymus shrinks in size as we age, it apparantly still

> > functions in our immune system responses.

> > It's interesting that all primates except humans Thump their

thymus on

> > a regular basis. [Tarzan knew this and he copied the apes].

> > Donna Eden incorporates the Thymus thump as one of her basic 5

> > exercises in her book, " Energy Medicine " .

> > The thymus resides just behing the middle of the breast bone and

it's

> > worth a few thumps daily.

[Guest guest]

ABOUT THE THYMUS

 

NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY IN YOGA CLASSES THE TEACHER INSTRUCTS US TO PUT THE

THOUGHT BEHINF THE CHEST BONE....