Guest guest Posted May 12, 2001 Report Share Posted May 12, 2001 Abs: I've met Patch through the holistic nurses association, and one of my best friends went with him to India to clown at the orphanages several years ago. Yes, he's charismatic, all right ;-) Although they are very different in some ways, I thought that Robin Williams was an excellent choice for him in the film (which is about his struggles to get through medical school and still follow his passion for levity). In the flavor of what he does, there are several groups dedicated to clowning and using humor in the hospital both for patients and for staff. The humor in " The Journal of Nursing Jocularity " , for instance, can be a bit raw sometimes, but it helps nurses to relieve pent up emotions and avoid burnout, even to begin grieving. Crow Arabella McIntyre-Brown wrote: > Mention of Patch Adams in the posts about humour and seriousness .... I never > saw the film, but I > did see Patch Adams - he came to a conference in Manchester (UK) about health. > Talk about > Messianic! Everyone there was ready to chuck everything and follow this man > back to his Silly > Hospital, or go with him to war zones dressed as clowns, to disrupt the > conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 Generally the humor gets more raw as the situation becomes more nasty. Back in '79 I was an EMT. Our Rescue Squad attended the crash of a DC-10 out of O'Hare with some 350 fatalities. An outside observer watching us return to quarters would have thought we were the most unfeeling people on Earth because of the jokes. Yet, these were men I had worked with and knew to be some of the most compassionate people around. But black humor can act a compensating mechanism. Without it, there would be even more firefighters in psych wards. >Caroline Abreu <carocrow > > >Re: Re: Seriously funny >Sat, 12 May 2001 06:49:15 -0400 > >Abs: > >I've met Patch through the holistic nurses association, and one of my best >friends >went with him to India to clown at the orphanages several years ago. Yes, >he's >charismatic, all right ;-) Although they are very different in some ways, >I >thought that Robin Williams was an excellent choice for him in the film >(which is >about his struggles to get through medical school and still follow his >passion for >levity). > >In the flavor of what he does, there are several groups dedicated to >clowning and >using humor in the hospital both for patients and for staff. The humor in > " The >Journal of Nursing Jocularity " , for instance, can be a bit raw sometimes, >but it >helps nurses to relieve pent up emotions and avoid burnout, even to begin >grieving. > >Crow > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 Dear Ray: I have 2 nurse friends who work at our Local Shriners Burn Institute, their humor is very very raw, as they refer to the kids as " crispy critters " . That sounds just terrible, but the nurse burn out rate in a burn institute is less than 3 years. They witness and have to participate in sooo much suffering. If they couldn't have this humor they'd be gone. Both of these nurses have been thier over 10 years, and are fantastic healers. But the first time I heard them talk I actually winced from the direspect. Now I love them both as I understand they compensatory mechinism. love connie > " Ray Hunter " <rayhuntermt > > Mon, 14 May 2001 17:02:10 > > Re: Re: Seriously funny > > Generally the humor gets more raw as the situation becomes more nasty. Back > in '79 I was an EMT. Our Rescue Squad attended the crash of a DC-10 out of > O'Hare with some 350 fatalities. An outside observer watching us return to > quarters would have thought we were the most unfeeling people on Earth > because of the jokes. Yet, these were men I had worked with and knew to be > some of the most compassionate people around. But black humor can act a > compensating mechanism. Without it, there would be even more firefighters in > psych wards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 I have a great deal of respect for people who can do that sort of work day to day. For what it's worth, we used the same term. We also found it ironic (at the time) that Browns's Fried Chicken showed up with food for the rescue workers. I dimly recall that several of the patrons of the bar we went to after the call seemed a bit shocked, but another facet of the situation is that you find yourself not really caring what people who don't know think. It's humor you could never adequately explain to someone who hadn't been there. I suspect that soldiers have the same mechanism. >tink-im <tink-im > > >Re: Re: Seriously funny >Mon, 14 May 2001 14:19:10 -0400 > >Dear Ray: > I have 2 nurse friends who work at our Local Shriners Burn Institute, >their humor is very very raw, as they refer to the kids as " crispy >critters " . That sounds just terrible, but the nurse burn out rate in a >burn >institute is less than 3 years. They witness and have to participate in >sooo much suffering. If they couldn't have this humor they'd be gone. >Both >of these nurses have been thier over 10 years, and are fantastic healers. >But the first time I heard them talk I actually winced from the direspect. >Now I love them both as I understand they compensatory mechinism. >love >connie > > > " Ray Hunter " <rayhuntermt > > > > Mon, 14 May 2001 17:02:10 > > > > Re: Re: Seriously funny > > > > Generally the humor gets more raw as the situation becomes more nasty. >Back > > in '79 I was an EMT. Our Rescue Squad attended the crash of a DC-10 out >of > > O'Hare with some 350 fatalities. An outside observer watching us return >to > > quarters would have thought we were the most unfeeling people on Earth > > because of the jokes. Yet, these were men I had worked with and knew to >be > > some of the most compassionate people around. But black humor can act a > > compensating mechanism. Without it, there would be even more >firefighters in > > psych wards. > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 Dear Ray, yup, exactly. I bet soldiers have a bunch of that humor. I did a nurse residency in our local Veterins hospital, and those guys were encouragable. I laughed and laughed. The funniest ones, would then move into shell shock and then be a total reck. I loved those men. My heart broke for them. love connie > I have a great deal of respect for people who can do that sort of work day > to day. For what it's worth, we used the same term. We also found it ironic > (at the time) that Browns's Fried Chicken showed up with food for the rescue > workers. I dimly recall that several of the patrons of the bar we went to > after the call seemed a bit shocked, but another facet of the situation is > that you find yourself not really caring what people who don't know think. > It's humor you could never adequately explain to someone who hadn't been > there. I suspect that soldiers have the same mechanism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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