... Re:Reiki and Kundalini ...

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Hello there...

 

Life Force, Chi, Ki, Prana etc etc .... it can be rather difficult to grasp

how these things work. What you are asking by a difference in energy between

Reiki and Kundalini is like asking 'What is the difference in the gas that

you use in a cooker, and that in a generator to drive a conveyor belt?'.

There isn't any .. it's how it's used. There is a degree of refinement

involved, in that there are 3 basic 'grades' of prana, much like there are

'grades' of fuel. There is Ching, Cha (or Chi) and Shen. This is the Chinese

system, which is the easiest was to understand it. Ching is physical

generative force. Cha is refined vital (or love) energy, whilst Shen is pure

spiritual force, and is the most refined. Naturally these correspond to

various energy centres in the body. Ching is held at the lower tan-tien

(power heaven - which is the chinese equivalent of the Perinium and Navel

chakras), Cha is held at the middle tan-tien (which is the equivalent of the

solar plexus and heart centres), and Shen is in the upper tan-tien (mainly

the head, but includes the throat chakra & brow chakra).

 

Now, when the Master raises Kundalini (and anyone who has raised Kundalini

is a Master!!), The Prana is gradually being refined as it rises through the

spinal centres. This is because the Adept or Master has worked to join the

energy centres of the body into one operational system. When Jesus

demonstrated the Transfiguration, when he blazed like the sun and was seen

with Moses and Elijah, he had about 15 'units' of Chi in his system, and

raised Kundalini. Now, it is inappropriate to ask 'Was this Ching, Chi or

Shen?', because His system was completely purified, and He refined the

energy as it was needed. Ching is like unrefined ore, requiring many tons

for any useful fuel. Chi is like the raw material with the dross removed,

requiring less physical material for the same amount of precious metal, but

Shen is like spun gold, and that which began as tons and tons of rocks, has

ended as a small bowl of highly refined product. Does this make better

sense?

 

Reiki (which as I'm sure you know is a Japanese concatenation of the words

for Universe and Life Force) is intended to use this same energy in a

different way for healing purposes. Unfortunately, Reiki doesn't work. The

'practitioner's of Reiki lay their hands on the patient, and the energy is

supposed to go where it's needed. The problem here, is that the people

acting as healers do not have the energy system required to perform this

healing, and the Reiki attunements do not provide it. I have taken the first

Reiki degree myself, and there is no question in my mind that this form of

healing is identical to any other (in spite of it's rituals and symbols),

and unless the person doing it actually has the energy in place, nothing

will happen. This is also to suggest that anyone who has the energy in place

and has never been anywhere near Reiki will also have exactly the same

effect. In other words, it's the Chi and the Individual that matters, not

the method. I have so far been unable to find any evidence that the Reiki

system is anything special. I have no doubt that Dr Usui (the founder) had

wonderful healing abilities, and that he wanted desparately to pass it on.

Alas, he himself did not actually know how he did it, and so it leaves

little help for those who follow him.

 

I have this healing power to a degree, but it isn't Reiki, although (given

what I have written) it isn't 'not-Reiki' either. I however, have

sensitivity to the energies of my body, and know how to control them. This

means that someone with 'more' Chi than I have may still not be as effective

due to their lack of control.

 

I hope that goes some way in helping you...

 

Best wishes,

 

Anne-Louise.

[Guest guest]

Anne-Louise:

 

I don't know where you got your Level I Reiki from, but your assessment is

certainly not what I have experienced from Reiki, and I have worked with several

methods of energy work as well. Since I have had positive results with Reiki

and

know of others who have as well, I am frankly stymied by your remark that Reiki

'doesn't work' :-) I'm sure that you did not mean to insult the large number of

Reiki practitioners on this list.

 

I would advise you to locate a Reiki Master Teacher that you trust and respect

and

try again. There is something wrong if you did not experience a shift, and you

obviously know very little about what Reiki really is from what I am reading of

your spotty history of it. Indeed, if you experienced Reiki from a person who

had

the same spotty background, that might explain it.

 

All energy is energy, but there are several different vibrational levels of

energy, as I'm sure you're aware, like there are different keynotes in a piece

of

music. It's not as if you can get different notes from pounding the same key in

different ways.

 

Here is some basic information (for the uninitiated), and a couple of my

favorite

Reiki references:

http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance/reikinfo.html

http://www.threshold.ca/reiki/index.html

http://www.angelfire.com/az/SpiritMatters/index.html

 

Anne-Louise Lasley wrote:

 

> Reiki (which as I'm sure you know is a Japanese concatenation of the words for

> Universe and Life Force) is intended to use this same energy in a different

way

> for healing purposes. Unfortunately, Reiki doesn't work. The 'practitioner's

of

> Reiki lay their hands on the patient, and the energy is supposed to go where

> it's needed. The problem here, is that the people acting as healers do not

have

> the energy system required to perform this healing, and the Reiki attunements

do

> not provide it. I have taken the first Reiki degree myself, and there is no

> question in my mind that this form of

> healing is identical to any other (in spite of it's rituals and symbols), and

> unless the person doing it actually has the energy in place, nothing will

> happen. This is also to suggest that anyone who has the energy in place and

has

> never been anywhere near Reiki will also have exactly the same effect. In

other

> words, it's the Chi and the Individual that matters, not the method. I have so

> far been unable to find any evidence that the Reiki system is anything

special.

> I have no doubt that Dr Usui (the founder) had wonderful healing abilities,

and

> that he wanted desparately to pass it on.

> Alas, he himself did not actually know how he did it, and so it leaves little

> help for those who follow him.

 

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[Guest guest]

Joel,

 

I'll put this as well as I can. You might not like this answer, but it's

what I think is the truth. You don't know ANYBODY who has raised Kundalini.

You know a few people who THINK they have, but they haven't. You have to

try to appreciate what you're dealing with. This is a so overused word that

it becomes diluted, but in this world, Kundalini is the ULTIMATE. The

individuals who succeed (and many try, most merely injure themselves) are

the Masters, the Christs, the Buddahs. Even Rumi hadn't raised Kundalini.

Masters who have raised Kundalini have such powerful auric fields that

anyone with your sensitivity would know about it immediately. You would feel

as though you were in the presence of someone who was, quite simply,

divinity personified. I must suggest that everyone else is simply paying lip

service to something they have no experience of. Unfortunately, it's very

easily done. I've seen it many times. It's possible to have glimpses of

Enlightenment without raising Kundalini, and it's possible to raise the

energy to the solar plexus or even the heart centre, and believe that you

have 'done' it. I have met two people who genuinely have raised Kundalini,

and they are awesome. Until you have encountered it genuinely, it is

difficult (if not impossible) to truly understand it at any level.

 

There is no difference between 'Reiki' energy, and 'Kundalini' energy. It's

a matter of refinement and intensity. Kundalini, if it reaches all the way

to the Crown Chakra without killing the recipient (I'm not joking!!) is

about 10 Billion Volts of pure God. Reiki is down to the individual.

 

I very rarely talk about my own spiritual experience in any definate detail,

and rarer still about my experiences with my Guru, but I will share one with

you today. When I first met him, I had so many preconceived ideas, notions

about how things worked. I was (looking back upon it) truly ignorant but at

least genuine in my search. My Teacher wasted no time in systematically

breaking down my mental barriers. It was very hard, often humiliating, and

always met with my obstinate resistance. One of the things I found

particularly hard to deal with, was how much I got wrong. I kept hounding

him about Enlightenment, Samadhi, Kundalini, Powers, and all such rubbish.

Up to this point he had never revealed any particular abilities of his own.

He was someone whom I knew to have reached the Enlightened point, but had no

real idea of what that meant. One day he sat me on his sofa and told me that

I needed to focus my attention, and until I understood that I would make no

progress at all. He told me that it was nothing to do with hard

concentration, it was in fact, a very relaxed holding of the awareness on

one point only, and becoming totally absorbed within it. I asked him what he

meant. He said it's not enough to simply have attention, or even Attention

Attention. You must develop Attention, Attention, ATTENTION. With that third

ATTENTION everything in the room shook as though we had been in the midst of

a minor earth tremour. The mirror over his fireplace, all of the books in

the bookcases, the ornaments on the mantlepiece .. everything rattled

violently and I felt as though I had just been hit in the chest with a

rubber mallet. I looked at him with an expression of total shock, and he

laughed heartily. 'Now do you understand?' he said quietly.

 

My Teacher has raised Kundalini and entered into the Enlightened state, but

in His ordinary everyday consciousness he remains in a state of High

Illumination. 'One cannot raise Kundalini, and live any kind of normal life'

he has told me many times. He chose to 'lower' his Kundalini energy to just

below the throat chakra in order to remain Illuminated and yet still be able

to work and raise his family. If he had remained Enlightened (he told me) he

would have to have given up this world completely, and lived as a recluse,

or in a monastery. Instead he opted to take his wife and children

responsibilities seriously, and now that his wife is no longer with him, and

his children are in their 40's, he can, if he wishes, return to that state.

When I asked why he had not done so, he simply replied 'If I did, I would

not be able to teach you.' Can you imagine such an act from any 'normal'

person? For the sake of a dozen or so students, all of whom are no more

advanced than I am, he holds back.

 

I hope this gives you some kind of perspective. It is hard without direct

experience. Can you see now why I doubt the likelyhood of what your friends

have told you? They are like children who having learned to count, somehow

believe that these numbers are special. If they should learn about fractions

and decimals, they think they are divine. But I have seen geometry and

algebra, and my teacher understands calculus and quadratic equations. I am

always looking to enhance my understanding, but I can tell from the way that

you talk about the experience that it is not what you believe it to be. Such

experiences at the hand of a Master are life changing, and would never be

forgotten, or dismissed as 'interesting'.

 

Now, I'd like to hear YOUR thoughts!!

 

-Anne-Louise.