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Hi Crow,

 

There has been so much talk about Reiki. Could you give me a capsule

explanation of what it is, how long it takes to learn, etc.

 

Thanks.

 

Celeste

 

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:47:16 -0400 " Caroline Abreu "

<nrgbalance writes:

> Well, hello, Janie!

>

> Thanks for passing on the links you have... I happen to know " RW "

> Sparti

> very well, he's an old friend of mine (the founder of GRMA). He's a

> happy

> bear of a man and a talespinner. If you get the chance to meet him

> somewhere

> along the road, do ;-)

>

> I have not had Distant Reiki Attunements, but I've experienced

> participating

> in RW's Worldwide Distant Attunement as a Master and it was a

> wonderful

> experience. I've also had Distant Chios Attunements, and I can

> validate that

> it is possible to experience the attunement remotely. One of my

> favorite

> " boosts " is the Reiju Gift page over at Rick Rivard's site:

> http://threshold.ca/reiki/urri/reiju_gift.html

>

> I agree with the folks, however, who encourage finding a support

> group and

> experienced teacher for learning the process and processing the

> learning. A

> lot of things can come up that can be confusing and it's good to

> have a

> reliable reference point and someone to practice with if possible.

>

> ---

> Hojotoho!,

> Crow

> " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

> ---

> Caroline " Crow " Abreu

>

>

> >Jane Berrigan <reikiskhm

> >

> >

> >

> >Oops, here I am wandering back through the winding halls of

> >cyberspace :^D Even though I've been practicing Reiki since 1992 -

> >long before these fingertips tapped across a keyboard - out of

> >curiosity, I try out the free online attunements to see what they

> >are like. Distant attunements do work and one gets connected to

> the

> >energy - some of the online attunements have felt gentle and others

> >have had a more forceful feel to them. Sorry, I don't remember

> >which sites I've done in the past to clue you in on how the energy

> >felt at each one.

> >

> >The only problem I have with the free online attunements is that

> >most leave you on your own to get your Reiki training by reading

> >websites or books. I think one of the important things for a Reiki

> >student is to have ongoing support during the learning period

> >however long that may be...days, weeks, months, years.

> >

> >Here are a couple sites that offer free distant attunements, some

> >may just be for Level I and others to Master level.

> >

> >http://www.reiki.net/GRMA/

> >http://freereiki.virtualave.net/

> >http://labyrinth_3.tripod.com/page5.html

> >http://www.taokan.org/

> >

> >If you do a search for distant Reiki attunements at www.google.com,

> >you can come up with quite a few hits.

> >

>

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Hi All:

 

Well, I don't know where Jane has wandered off to <LOL> but she and I

had a discussion about attunements a while back (April, I think) and

there are several bursts of discussion about Reiki Attunements in the

archives.

 

If you go to the Messages section after logging in and going to the

page, put Reiki Attunements in the search box and you will

find a list of the threads concerning that subject.

 

Happy Reading!

Crow

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Oops, here I am wandering back through the winding halls of

cyberspace :^D Even though I've been practicing Reiki since 1992 -

long before these fingertips tapped across a keyboard - out of

curiosity, I try out the free online attunements to see what they

are like. Distant attunements do work and one gets connected to the

energy - some of the online attunements have felt gentle and others

have had a more forceful feel to them. Sorry, I don't remember

which sites I've done in the past to clue you in on how the energy

felt at each one.

 

The only problem I have with the free online attunements is that

most leave you on your own to get your Reiki training by reading

websites or books. I think one of the important things for a Reiki

student is to have ongoing support during the learning period

however long that may be...days, weeks, months, years.

 

Here are a couple sites that offer free distant attunements, some

may just be for Level I and others to Master level.

 

http://www.reiki.net/GRMA/

http://freereiki.virtualave.net/

http://labyrinth_3.tripod.com/page5.html

http://www.taokan.org/

 

If you do a search for distant Reiki attunements at www.google.com,

you can come up with quite a few hits.

 

 

Caroline Abreu wrote:

> Well, I don't know where Jane has wandered off to <LOL> but she and I

> had a discussion about attunements a while back (April, I think) and

> there are several bursts of discussion about Reiki Attunements in the

> archives.

 

--

Janie

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Usui Reiki Ryoho & Seichem Classes

In person - New Jersey

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Well, hello, Janie!

 

Thanks for passing on the links you have... I happen to know " RW " Sparti

very well, he's an old friend of mine (the founder of GRMA). He's a happy

bear of a man and a talespinner. If you get the chance to meet him somewhere

along the road, do ;-)

 

I have not had Distant Reiki Attunements, but I've experienced participating

in RW's Worldwide Distant Attunement as a Master and it was a wonderful

experience. I've also had Distant Chios Attunements, and I can validate that

it is possible to experience the attunement remotely. One of my favorite

" boosts " is the Reiju Gift page over at Rick Rivard's site:

http://threshold.ca/reiki/urri/reiju_gift.html

 

I agree with the folks, however, who encourage finding a support group and

experienced teacher for learning the process and processing the learning. A

lot of things can come up that can be confusing and it's good to have a

reliable reference point and someone to practice with if possible.

 

---

Hojotoho!,

Crow

" Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

---

Caroline " Crow " Abreu

 

 

>Jane Berrigan <reikiskhm

>

>

>

>Oops, here I am wandering back through the winding halls of

>cyberspace :^D Even though I've been practicing Reiki since 1992 -

>long before these fingertips tapped across a keyboard - out of

>curiosity, I try out the free online attunements to see what they

>are like. Distant attunements do work and one gets connected to the

>energy - some of the online attunements have felt gentle and others

>have had a more forceful feel to them. Sorry, I don't remember

>which sites I've done in the past to clue you in on how the energy

>felt at each one.

>

>The only problem I have with the free online attunements is that

>most leave you on your own to get your Reiki training by reading

>websites or books. I think one of the important things for a Reiki

>student is to have ongoing support during the learning period

>however long that may be...days, weeks, months, years.

>

>Here are a couple sites that offer free distant attunements, some

>may just be for Level I and others to Master level.

>

>http://www.reiki.net/GRMA/

>http://freereiki.virtualave.net/

>http://labyrinth_3.tripod.com/page5.html

>http://www.taokan.org/

>

>If you do a search for distant Reiki attunements at www.google.com,

>you can come up with quite a few hits.

>

 

 

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Hi Celeste:

 

Well, I suppose the first thing to clarify is that Reiki is a pretty generic

word, nowadays, and was even a generic word when Mikao Usui chose to use it

in the description of the energy based healing method he founded late in the

19th century in Japan. For that reason, he chose to call it Usui Reiki

Ryoho. In later Western (Hayashi/Takata) usage that has come to be called

Usui Shiki Ryoho.

 

Every " new " kind of Reiki seems to have a different flavor, a different

method, new symbols, etc., etc. That is why it is so confusing to people to

hear it generically called " Reiki " .

 

The most basic and intrinsic thing about Reiki is that it is an energy based

healing method that requires the practitioner to receive the energy through

an Attunement, a process by which a Master who is trained to do this aligns

the student with the Reiki vibration so that they can access it at any time.

This Attunement is never lost, though repeated Attunements " boost " the

sensation for the student and may (speculatively) increase the student's

ability to channel Reiki. Though the hands are generally used as a focus for

sending energy, it can also be transmitted with the eyes, the breath, the

energy field and through thought transmission over distance.

 

Usui taught Reiki in a very different way than people are taught today; the

majority of his students were men, trained like monks, in a monastic

situation, where they studied daily and evolved in an organic way. He did

not divide the lessons into the levels we know now in the West; his student

Hayashi did that, as well as setting into place the standard hand positions

that are taught for a full Reiki session. Usui did not even consider himself

to have " Mastered " Reiki; he felt, as I feel, that no one really ever does

that ;-) Masters ever since have tended to adapt or add things to Reiki as

they go along, further confusing matters. Some people are studying Japanese

Reiki, in the belief that it may be more purist to the original Usui model.

 

At any rate, the way that Usui Reiki is generally taught in the West now is

this: there are three levels. Level I is for beginners. It aligns the

student with Reiki and the student is taught the hand positions for working

on themselves and others. That is really all anyone ever needs. Level II

progresses to working with symbols, or yantras, that help the student focus

on a particular intention while they are doing Reiki, including concepts of

strength/power, emotional healing/peace, and distant healing. In my

particular lineage there is also a symbol (nontraditional) for physical

manifestation/healing. The Level III is the Master level. At this point some

lineages divide Level III into Master practitioners and Master teachers.

Mine does not. At Level III you learn the Master symbol and the procedures

for passing Attunements. On a more practical level, most students at this

level are also taught how to teach Reiki and mentor others.

 

Costs for all this vary highly; it is important to note, however, that

though the Attunement might be free, it might lack the education to go with

it, materials for learning and reference, etc. No one should be expected to

give those things away, even if they are doing Attunements for free. Their

classroom time is valuable, and someone has to pay for the copies or

workbooks. In some cases, especially if the student desires or expects a

long mentorship, there should be some compensation, either through barter or

finance.

 

That said, unless you want to go the " traditional " route, I have never seen

the wisdom in paying several thousand dollars for a Master Attunement. That

was designed to limit the number of Masters and supposedly to test the

sincerity of the student wishing to be Attuned. I don't find that valid in

either case any longer.

 

For a very basic page about Usui and the Western lineage, I have a simple

page up here:

http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance/reikinfo.html

I have links to pictures of Usui, Hayashi, Takata and Furumoto that might be

interesting for you to see.

 

---

Hojotoho!,

Crow

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>celeste m sullivan <csull3

>

>

>Re: Regarding Reiki Attunements

>Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:58:04 -0500

>

>Hi Crow,

>

>There has been so much talk about Reiki. Could you give me a capsule

>explanation of what it is, how long it takes to learn, etc.

>

>Thanks.

>

>Celeste

>

 

 

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Hi everyone,

 

Because we've been talking about Reiki and free attunements versus

the traditional way (which may cost upwards of hundreds of dollars),

I asked Caroline if I may post information regarding my website. I'm

a Reiki Master in many traditions, and I offer Reiki lessons and

attunements via distance at a very low cost, basically to cover the

cost of the supplies to create the handbook, and the time it takes me

to work through lessons with you. The attunement is free to all, and

I do offer it freely to those who do not wish to take the lessons or

receive a paper certificate.

 

That said, if you are looking to learn Reiki with the support of a

Master at a reasonable cost (Usui Shiki Ryoho Levels are all under

$50), then check out my website at http://www.moonglowenergy.com/

Each course includes: a handbook written by me, lessons via email, an

exam at the end of the course, the attunement, and a certificate

suitable for framing. In addition, I am always available through

email to any of my students at any time regarding questions and

concerns, and I provide an email list for students and others

interested in Reiki to interact. I try to make this as similar as

learning " in person " as I can.

 

I will say that getting attuned and then learning on your own *can*

work if you are diligent in finding the information through books and

online, but I feel that having a guide in learning is invaluable.

 

Blessings,

Mina

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Mina Smolinski, Usui RMT, Karuna Ki MT, Grandmaster of Magnussa

Phoenix Reiki, Founding Master of Hexa Reiki, Siddheartha Reiki

Master of the 7th Band, Seichim Master, Sekhem-Seichim-Reiki Master,

SKHM Master

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Thanks, Crow,

 

I see now why I was so confused. It is confusing. Many years ago, I

experienced healing for myself and others through the laying on of hands.

This seems to be a

variation of it---or is it? I wonder how much energy healing these days

is the same, or similar, to the laying on of hands we used in prayer

circles.

 

Celeste

 

On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:43:23 -0400 " Caroline Abreu "

<nrgbalance writes:

> Hi Celeste:

>

> Well, I suppose the first thing to clarify is that Reiki is a pretty

> generic

> word, nowadays, and was even a generic word when Mikao Usui chose to

> use it

> in the description of the energy based healing method he founded

> late in the

> 19th century in Japan. For that reason, he chose to call it Usui

> Reiki

> Ryoho. In later Western (Hayashi/Takata) usage that has come to be

> called

> Usui Shiki Ryoho.

>

> Every " new " kind of Reiki seems to have a different flavor, a

> different

> method, new symbols, etc., etc. That is why it is so confusing to

> people to

> hear it generically called " Reiki " .

>

> The most basic and intrinsic thing about Reiki is that it is an

> energy based

> healing method that requires the practitioner to receive the energy

> through

> an Attunement, a process by which a Master who is trained to do this

> aligns

> the student with the Reiki vibration so that they can access it at

> any time.

> This Attunement is never lost, though repeated Attunements " boost "

> the

> sensation for the student and may (speculatively) increase the

> student's

> ability to channel Reiki. Though the hands are generally used as a

> focus for

> sending energy, it can also be transmitted with the eyes, the

> breath, the

> energy field and through thought transmission over distance.

>

> Usui taught Reiki in a very different way than people are taught

> today; the

> majority of his students were men, trained like monks, in a monastic

>

> situation, where they studied daily and evolved in an organic way.

> He did

> not divide the lessons into the levels we know now in the West; his

> student

> Hayashi did that, as well as setting into place the standard hand

> positions

> that are taught for a full Reiki session. Usui did not even consider

> himself

> to have " Mastered " Reiki; he felt, as I feel, that no one really

> ever does

> that ;-) Masters ever since have tended to adapt or add things to

> Reiki as

> they go along, further confusing matters. Some people are studying

> Japanese

> Reiki, in the belief that it may be more purist to the original Usui

> model.

>

> At any rate, the way that Usui Reiki is generally taught in the West

> now is

> this: there are three levels. Level I is for beginners. It aligns

> the

> student with Reiki and the student is taught the hand positions for

> working

> on themselves and others. That is really all anyone ever needs.

> Level II

> progresses to working with symbols, or yantras, that help the

> student focus

> on a particular intention while they are doing Reiki, including

> concepts of

> strength/power, emotional healing/peace, and distant healing. In my

> particular lineage there is also a symbol (nontraditional) for

> physical

> manifestation/healing. The Level III is the Master level. At this

> point some

> lineages divide Level III into Master practitioners and Master

> teachers.

> Mine does not. At Level III you learn the Master symbol and the

> procedures

> for passing Attunements. On a more practical level, most students at

> this

> level are also taught how to teach Reiki and mentor others.

>

> Costs for all this vary highly; it is important to note, however,

> that

> though the Attunement might be free, it might lack the education to

> go with

> it, materials for learning and reference, etc. No one should be

> expected to

> give those things away, even if they are doing Attunements for free.

> Their

> classroom time is valuable, and someone has to pay for the copies or

>

> workbooks. In some cases, especially if the student desires or

> expects a

> long mentorship, there should be some compensation, either through

> barter or

> finance.

>

> That said, unless you want to go the " traditional " route, I have

> never seen

> the wisdom in paying several thousand dollars for a Master

> Attunement. That

> was designed to limit the number of Masters and supposedly to test

> the

> sincerity of the student wishing to be Attuned. I don't find that

> valid in

> either case any longer.

>

> For a very basic page about Usui and the Western lineage, I have a

> simple

> page up here:

> http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance/reikinfo.html

> I have links to pictures of Usui, Hayashi, Takata and Furumoto that

> might be

> interesting for you to see.

>

> ---

> Hojotoho!,

> Crow

> " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

> ---

> Caroline " Crow " Abreu

>

> Check Out The Goddess of WooWoo Site of the Week!

> http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance/goww.html

>

> AIM: CaroCrow

> Messenger: NRGbalance

> MSN Messenger: NRGbalance

> URL: http://www.geocities.com/nrgbalance

>

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>

>

> >celeste m sullivan <csull3

> >

> >

> >Re: Regarding Reiki Attunements

> >Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:58:04 -0500

> >

> >Hi Crow,

> >

> >There has been so much talk about Reiki. Could you give me a

> capsule

> >explanation of what it is, how long it takes to learn, etc.

> >

> >Thanks.

> >

> >Celeste

> >

>

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Celeste:

 

You're right in the comparison in that " all roads lead to Rome " more or

less. Hands on healing is ancient and takes many forms.

 

One specific difference I'd like to point out with Reiki is that there is no

particular religious affiliation or belief associated with it. Although many

people have tacked their notions of " God " to Reiki, there is no indication

of that in clean Reiki teaching. It is also important to note that Usui was

Buddhist; there have long been myths established that he was a Christian

professor of some kind, and those are urban legend, so to speak, a method

someone devised to make Reiki more " palatable " to the Western mind at the

time it was brought to the US from Japan in the late 1930's. The early years

of Reiki in this country were marked by a great deal of anti Japanese

sentiment, obviously, and this affected how Reiki was taught here. Since

Usui was a Buddhist, he had different concepts about personal responsibility

in healing than Christians do.

 

Therapeutic Touch and Healing Touch, though they may touch lightly on the

transpersonal and spirit, do not function as spiritual healing, either. They

are designed to work with the physiology of the energy field and chakras and

be devoid of dogma. Both were developed by nurses for nurses, and have

spread as more 'left-brained' forms, if you can call them that <LOL> of

energy work.

 

There are also meridian therapies, like the psychotherapeutic techniques

we've talked about here, EFT, TFT, TAT, etc. An energy method that works

heavilly with the meridians is Polarity.

 

Faith healing and the hands on type of healing done in religious ceremonies,

are often accompanied by a belief in a particular Deity, and that is what

facilitates the healing... the action of the healer, the belief/faith of the

healee, the compassionate intervention of the Deity. In that way it is like

prayer.

 

Although it certainly facilitates any form of healing for the person to

believe and ascribe to the healing, it is possible to remove illness from a

person without their knowledge, approval or belief. In most of those cases,

disease will reoccur or a similarly motivated disorder will take its place.

In other words, the weed was pulled up but the roots remained.

 

I think that roots can be from a lot of different sources... old fixed

negative beliefs, trauma, even spiritual attachments. Those things have to

be dislodged, acknowledged and removed. Curing doesn't mean a person is

healed, and sometimes healing a person doesn't mean they will be cured. So

the motivation for providing energy in some modalities may not be so much to

relieve the person of a particular illness/disorder as it is to provide

energy for the person to discover wholeness. If a cure happens then that is

a bonus, not necessarily the goal of treatment.

 

And that is why it is so important when doing healing work that the healer

remains as neutral in intent as possible, loving but unconditional, without

the desire to fix or change, simply to provide. That, to me, is one large

difference in energy healing methods. In many cases healers take a great

deal of responsibility and power for doing things, even if they claim they

are not... simply by applying their intention to the work inappropriately.

Staying out of ego is the hardest work for a person who chooses healing as a

profession or avocation... and that includes thinking they know what's

" best " for the person.

 

" Good " intentions aren't always " Right " intentions ;-)

 

We've talked about this before, about disease, and why it is important for a

person to come to a realization about it, find out what its roots might be,

and dig them out. Finding the roots may ultimately be far more important to

the person's growth than the " miracle " of pulling out the weed.

 

I say that from the standpoint of my other work with hypnotherapy and

shamanism. In hypnosis a person can find causations and deal with them in

such a mild and simple way, without even carrying that back to consciousness

unless they desire to do so. There is " will " involved in it, especially when

it comes to changing behaviors like smoking, but if the hypnotherapist can

find the right indicator for the client, the right button to push, so to

speak, then the habit can be dropped in one session. I found for myself that

aversion did not work; I am very rebellious, and needed someone to tell me

positive things rather than negative ones. For others, I suppose, fear

works; but not for me... I'm not afraid of much <LOL> So hypnosis, like a

lot of other work, can't be formulaic; it has to be individualized to work,

and the hypnotherapist's intention must be as clear as the energy worker's:

to provide guidance for the client to find their healing place.

 

Ideally, this can happen during any energy based therapy; when the client

relaxes and moves into an altered state of awareness, if they don't wander

off but pay attention, they can learn a great deal about what is going on

with them and have profound " aha's " , insights that have the potential for

long range changes. So, ideally, if a client can approach receiving energy

in the same way they would entering meditation, they will get a lot more out

of it.

 

I'll talk more about how shamanic healing differs in another post ;-)

 

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Crow

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>celeste m sullivan <csull3

>

>

>Re: Regarding Reiki Attunements

>Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:12:12 -0500

>

>Thanks, Crow,

>

>I see now why I was so confused. It is confusing. Many years ago, I

>experienced healing for myself and others through the laying on of hands.

> This seems to be a

>variation of it---or is it? I wonder how much energy healing these days

>is the same, or similar, to the laying on of hands we used in prayer

>circles.

>

>Celeste

>

 

 

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Thanks again, Crow,

 

Once again, you amaze me with your comprehensive knowledge of so many

different things.

 

Celeste

 

On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:04:53 -0400 " Caroline Abreu "

<nrgbalance writes:

> Celeste:

>

> You're right in the comparison in that " all roads lead to Rome " more

> or

> less. Hands on healing is ancient and takes many forms.

>

> One specific difference I'd like to point out with Reiki is that

> there is no

> particular religious affiliation or belief associated with it.

> Although many

> people have tacked their notions of " God " to Reiki, there is no

> indication

> of that in clean Reiki teaching. It is also important to note that

> Usui was

> Buddhist; there have long been myths established that he was a

> Christian

> professor of some kind, and those are urban legend, so to speak, a

> method

> someone devised to make Reiki more " palatable " to the Western mind

> at the

> time it was brought to the US from Japan in the late 1930's. The

> early years

> of Reiki in this country were marked by a great deal of anti

> Japanese

> sentiment, obviously, and this affected how Reiki was taught here.

> Since

> Usui was a Buddhist, he had different concepts about personal

> responsibility

> in healing than Christians do.

>

> Therapeutic Touch and Healing Touch, though they may touch lightly

> on the

> transpersonal and spirit, do not function as spiritual healing,

> either. They

> are designed to work with the physiology of the energy field and

> chakras and

> be devoid of dogma. Both were developed by nurses for nurses, and

> have

> spread as more 'left-brained' forms, if you can call them that <LOL>

> of

> energy work.

>

> There are also meridian therapies, like the psychotherapeutic

> techniques

> we've talked about here, EFT, TFT, TAT, etc. An energy method that

> works

> heavilly with the meridians is Polarity.

>

> Faith healing and the hands on type of healing done in religious

> ceremonies,

> are often accompanied by a belief in a particular Deity, and that is

> what

> facilitates the healing... the action of the healer, the

> belief/faith of the

> healee, the compassionate intervention of the Deity. In that way it

> is like

> prayer.

>

> Although it certainly facilitates any form of healing for the person

> to

> believe and ascribe to the healing, it is possible to remove illness

> from a

> person without their knowledge, approval or belief. In most of those

> cases,

> disease will reoccur or a similarly motivated disorder will take its

> place.

> In other words, the weed was pulled up but the roots remained.

>

> I think that roots can be from a lot of different sources... old

> fixed

> negative beliefs, trauma, even spiritual attachments. Those things

> have to

> be dislodged, acknowledged and removed. Curing doesn't mean a person

> is

> healed, and sometimes healing a person doesn't mean they will be

> cured. So

> the motivation for providing energy in some modalities may not be so

> much to

> relieve the person of a particular illness/disorder as it is to

> provide

> energy for the person to discover wholeness. If a cure happens then

> that is

> a bonus, not necessarily the goal of treatment.

>

> And that is why it is so important when doing healing work that the

> healer

> remains as neutral in intent as possible, loving but unconditional,

> without

> the desire to fix or change, simply to provide. That, to me, is one

> large

> difference in energy healing methods. In many cases healers take a

> great

> deal of responsibility and power for doing things, even if they

> claim they

> are not... simply by applying their intention to the work

> inappropriately.

> Staying out of ego is the hardest work for a person who chooses

> healing as a

> profession or avocation... and that includes thinking they know

> what's

> " best " for the person.

>

> " Good " intentions aren't always " Right " intentions ;-)

>

> We've talked about this before, about disease, and why it is

> important for a

> person to come to a realization about it, find out what its roots

> might be,

> and dig them out. Finding the roots may ultimately be far more

> important to

> the person's growth than the " miracle " of pulling out the weed.

>

> I say that from the standpoint of my other work with hypnotherapy

> and

> shamanism. In hypnosis a person can find causations and deal with

> them in

> such a mild and simple way, without even carrying that back to

> consciousness

> unless they desire to do so. There is " will " involved in it,

> especially when

> it comes to changing behaviors like smoking, but if the

> hypnotherapist can

> find the right indicator for the client, the right button to push,

> so to

> speak, then the habit can be dropped in one session. I found for

> myself that

> aversion did not work; I am very rebellious, and needed someone to

> tell me

> positive things rather than negative ones. For others, I suppose,

> fear

> works; but not for me... I'm not afraid of much <LOL> So hypnosis,

> like a

> lot of other work, can't be formulaic; it has to be individualized

> to work,

> and the hypnotherapist's intention must be as clear as the energy

> worker's:

> to provide guidance for the client to find their healing place.

>

> Ideally, this can happen during any energy based therapy; when the

> client

> relaxes and moves into an altered state of awareness, if they don't

> wander

> off but pay attention, they can learn a great deal about what is

> going on

> with them and have profound " aha's " , insights that have the

> potential for

> long range changes. So, ideally, if a client can approach receiving

> energy

> in the same way they would entering meditation, they will get a lot

> more out

> of it.

>

> I'll talk more about how shamanic healing differs in another post

> ;-)

>

> ---

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> Crow

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>

> >celeste m sullivan <csull3

> >

> >

> >Re: Regarding Reiki Attunements

> >Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:12:12 -0500

> >

> >Thanks, Crow,

> >

> >I see now why I was so confused. It is confusing. Many years ago,

> I

> >experienced healing for myself and others through the laying on of

> hands.

> > This seems to be a

> >variation of it---or is it? I wonder how much energy healing these

> days

> >is the same, or similar, to the laying on of hands we used in

> prayer

> >circles.

> >

> >Celeste

> >

>

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