Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Apparently Chai Hu itself has the effect on raising the interferon and as stated below creates a synergistic effect with interferon. The inherently toxic effect of interferon then becomes fatal. Has anyone successfully treated Hep C? I have gotten less than stellar results. Apparently the Chinese research of 5 years ago is faulty. doug > Question: since the patients were given the entire formula, could it > had been the synergistic effect of the rx ingredients the culprit? Or > just the presence of Chai Hu? > > >>>Probably the entire formula. Since it seems that xiao chi wu increases interferon as well resulting in toxic levels ' > Alon > - > fbernall > > Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:34 PM > Re: Shao Yang syndrome > > , " " <zrosenbe@s...> > wrote: > > Fernando, > > As you may know, in Japan 16 deaths were attributed to giving > xiao > > chai hu tang to patients undergoing interferon therapy. > > Z'ev, thanks, I've read some literature on the subject. Did not know > that 16 deaths took place. > > Question: since the patients were given the entire formula, could it > had been the synergistic effect of the rx ingredients the culprit? Or > just the presence of Chai Hu? > > > I have had one patient whose liver panels (SGOT, SGPT) went up on > chai hu prescriptions, and had to stop. > > If one's assessment calls for a prescription with chai hu, and since > there are so many asymptomatic hep c patients, would you ask the pt to > have a liver profile test just to make sure you cause no harm? > And if the pt chooses not to have a test, would you still treat the > pt? > > fernando > r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Apparently the Chinese research of 5 years ago is faulty.doug>>>>So what's new? Alon - Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:51 AM Re: Digest Number 805 Apparently Chai Hu itself has the effect on raising the interferon andas stated below creates a synergistic effect with interferon. Theinherently toxic effect of interferon then becomes fatal. Has anyone successfully treated Hep C? I have gotten less than stellarresults. Apparently the Chinese research of 5 years ago is faulty.doug> Question: since the patients were given the entire formula, could it> had been the synergistic effect of the rx ingredients the culprit? Or> just the presence of Chai Hu?> > >>>Probably the entire formula. Since it seems that xiao chi wu increases interferon as well resulting in toxic levels '> Alon> -> fbernall> > Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:34 PM> Re: Shao Yang syndrome> > , "" <zrosenbe@s...>> wrote:> > Fernando,> > As you may know, in Japan 16 deaths were attributed to giving> xiao> > chai hu tang to patients undergoing interferon therapy.> > Z'ev, thanks, I've read some literature on the subject. Did not know> that 16 deaths took place.> > Question: since the patients were given the entire formula, could it> had been the synergistic effect of the rx ingredients the culprit? Or> just the presence of Chai Hu?> > > I have had one patient whose liver panels (SGOT, SGPT) went up on> chai hu prescriptions, and had to stop.> > If one's assessment calls for a prescription with chai hu, and since> there are so many asymptomatic hep c patients, would you ask the pt to> have a liver profile test just to make sure you cause no harm?> And if the pt chooses not to have a test, would you still treat the> pt?> > fernando> rChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 , wrote: > Apparently Chai Hu itself has the effect on raising the interferon and > as stated below creates a synergistic effect with interferon. The > inherently toxic effect of interferon then becomes fatal. > Has anyone successfully treated Hep C? I have gotten less than stellar > results. Apparently the Chinese research of 5 years ago is faulty. > doug > A colleague of mine has two cases in Portland that the patient now has undetectable viral load. this was confirmed by the medical doctor at the local med school hepatology dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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