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Ken asked:

" If you've said in the past, I don't

recall. Where were you in China? "

 

I was in Shanghai at Huason and Zhongson (Hosp. #1 & 2) in 1996. There

were several doctors in their 20's. Some were in the

out-patient/acupuncture dept. and some were in internal medicine

(herbs). I had the feeling that many had reached their educational

limits of what seemed to me pretty much equal to our 4 year education.

They were going to be in that clinic a long, long time. There were also

of course many, many more experienced doctors in higher roles as

supervisors in the clinics I saw.

 

I have Chinese friends here in the USA who in China have a degree that

allows them to practice acupuncture under others. Had they stayed in

China they might have ended up as a work-place acupuncturist, sort of

like the nurse that a big company might have here.

I just bring this up to say that in China an acupuncturist/doctor has

many more outcomes. I hesitate to say " options " since these " options "

are imposed upon them to a large degree. (Or at least that's how it was

in the past.) Some might be channeled into the clinic, more education,

teaching, administration, research etc... Unfortunately in the USA right

now, the only " options " are private practice and for a few; teaching

gigs and for the fewer: (many of them here on this list) people through

a lot of hard-work have managed to carve out a niche in publishing or

workshops.

 

 

I think many people have their liver-qi stagnation memories about

acupuncture school. It's not a language problem especially and I think

other posts may have misunderstood that. I think we could go on ad

naseum about educational methods (but lets not, OK?). As more books are

being published in English, this is less of a problem. I think books

like the recent Warm Diseases are especially important because it is the

" teachers edition " that we all crave the information. To get the

reasoning behind the facts.

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Douglas,

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> I was in Shanghai at Huason and Zhongson (Hosp. #1 & 2) in 1996.

 

Shanghai has gone through some extraordinary

changes over the last five years. You wouldn't

recognize the place! By the way, how long

were you there?

 

>It's not a language problem especially and I think

> other posts may have misunderstood that.

 

I don't follow you. What does this mean?

 

I think we could go on ad

> naseum about educational methods (but lets not, OK?).

 

In your last post you said that the only

solution was for Chinese and non-Chinese educators

to sit down together and address the issues

related to how to better the quality of

instruction. What did you have in mind?

 

As more books are

> being published in English, this is less of a problem.

 

What is less of a problem? I must have missed

something you said.

 

I think books

> like the recent Warm Diseases are especially important because it

is the

> " teachers edition " that we all crave the information. To get the

> reasoning behind the facts.

 

Agreed. I think it's terribly important to

get the reasoning behind the facts.

 

Ken

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  • 2 weeks later...

In a message dated 1/2/2002 4:18:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

 

 

> This came at an appropriate time as my husband, John, passed away

> Christmas Day in a very peaceful way.

>

> Peace and happy new year!

>

> Celeste

 

Celeste

 

My prayers to you and your husband...for a peaceful transition for him as

well as for you while you deal with your loss.

 

Katy

Master Herbalist

 

 

 

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> > This came at an appropriate time as my husband, John, passed away

> > Christmas Day in a very peaceful way.

> >

> > Peace and happy new year!

> >

> > Celeste

 

Celeste,

 

I am glad to hear this was a peaceful passing for him. As you know, it's been

a month since my father

died and it's been such a spiritual time for me. I feel his presence now more

than ever. I hope it is the

same for you, you have such a blessed outlook on your husband's transition, it's

been an inspiration to me.

 

Much love to you,

Linda

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  • 2 years later...

In a message dated 12/31/04 2:52:09 PM,

Chinese Medicine writes:

 

<< Re: Insurance Billing Question

 

 

 

 

If you signed up with the insurance company to be a preferred provider

 

you cannot bill for the difference. Othewise you can.

 

 

Laura

 

>>

 

correct.

robbee

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