Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 In a message dated 3/1/02 6:11:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, caznjohn writes: > People who see angels and guides really believe they see angels and guides > What they are seeing is energy. > How do you know they aren't? Let's be philosophical here. When we die we are going to see " energy " embodied, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Hi there all To Rich and Daniel i have a thought to add People who see angels and guides really believe they see angels and guides What they are seeing is energy. A person interprets energy based upon their own conditioning people may see a different vibration of energy and go ... that is an angel .....because they like angels another person may see or feel the same energy and think an extension of my inner knowing ...... a guiding force another person may interpret energy as a guide ....usually outside of themself and this may be because there own sense of reality would stop them from allowing the knowing that comes from this energy many people dissassociate from inner knowing and call them guides or angel because they trust the energy more if they feel it comes from an outside source ..... this can be from lacking of understanding or from lower self esteem or just a plain ol belief that they themselves could not possibly be this wise the fact of the matter is energy is energy it has no attachment to what face you put on it i have been an energy worker and psychic for 30 years , i personally watched a lot of sci fi movies as i was growing up and my internal symbolism tends to allow me to interpret energy as glowing plasma balls .... which i do know as my own or other people's inner ( i dont use higher) selves it is just good that for whatever reasoning people put on it , they do feel energy and allow its interaction with them anyway that is my two cents worth carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 What force where at work? I spent the last ten years of my life working on a sheep farm in North Wales. I learned so much from the animals and found that they even managed to speak to me. You may ask how? That is a very good question. I will give you an example. As a farmer I would quite often get inspired to have a look around the farm. I say inspired because I would sense there was a problem. On this occasion I was being guided into a field I new to be empty of animals and I had not visited for over a month. The farm was quite large and therefore I had an ATV, which is like a four-wheel drive motorbike and my dog on the back. The field in question had high cliffs and tall bracken and very difficult to see more that 10 meter a head. I had driven all around the field and was sitting in the middle just listening to the wind in the trees and the sound of running water in the streams. The feeling would not go away that there was something wrong, but what. I started off to have a last look round and let the dog off the lead, which held it on the bike, to see if he could help. Next minute the dog's ears pricked up and off he went with me following. As we came over the hill, there I could see a sheep, which had pushed its head through the fence to reach a juicy blade of grass on the other side and found its head had got stuck. But as I came close I got a very big surprise. The sheep had Just given birth to a little lamb, which was still alive but unable to get on its feet. Well, I acted quickly to feed the lamb on its mother and managed to get the sheep's head out of the fence. A few minutes later they both walk off together as though nothing had happened. But a lot had happened. It was more than a coincidence that I was in that field looking for a problem just as the mother gave birth to her little lamb. Is it the nature spirits that where guiding me? Or was the sheep able to send me a message by telepathy or praying to God or some other means. This has happened many times with the sheep, having their heads stuck in the fences. On each occasion I was sent a message. The sheep can only live about three days with out food. Therefore some how they were able to pass the message on to me as I found many live sheep in that position, but I never found a dead one. Which proved to me that the system worked, but what was the system? - " Carol " <caznjohn " bodymind " Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:08 AM re guides and angels > > Hi there all > To Rich and Daniel i have a thought to add > People who see angels and guides really believe they see angels and guides > What they are seeing is energy. > A person interprets energy based upon their own conditioning > people may see a different vibration of energy and go ... that is an angel .....because they like angels > another person may see or feel the same energy and think an extension of my inner knowing ...... a guiding force > another person may interpret energy as a guide ....usually outside of themself and this may be because there own sense of reality would stop them from allowing the knowing that comes from this energy > many people dissassociate from inner knowing and call them guides or angel because they trust the energy more if they feel it comes from an outside source .... this can be from lacking of understanding or from lower self esteem or just a plain ol belief that they themselves could not possibly be this wise > > the fact of the matter is > energy is energy > it has no attachment to what face you put on it > i have been an energy worker and psychic for 30 years , i personally watched a lot of sci fi movies as i was growing up and my internal symbolism tends to allow me to interpret energy as glowing plasma balls .... which i do know as my own or other people's inner ( i dont use higher) selves > it is just good that for whatever reasoning people put on it , they do feel energy and allow its interaction with them > anyway that is my two cents worth > carol > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Hi Carol, I just wanted to add a comment here on seeing angels. I have only seen what an angel or other entity once, and I will never forget it. I wasn't 'into' angels, or anything, in fact, it was a chance occurrence. We were living in a suburb of Dallas, and the house we were renting had one of those 6 ft privacy fences that are everywhere there. We had a Miniature Schnauzer named Lucky. One day, the kids and I were in a rush to get them to their tae kwon do lessons....we were uncharacteristically late that day. One of them had let the dog out into the back yard before we left, as is our habit, and off we went. Unbeknownst to us, the back gate was open, which normally would have resulted in Lucky taking off and getting lost, because we were gone for over an hour. But, we didn't know all that.....off we went, forgetting that the dog had been let out, and not knowing the gate was open. When I pulled up to the curb at the front of the house (no driveways in that neighborhood), I glanced over towards the house and saw a young girl, holding onto Lucky, who was sitting, with a glowing golden leash. I was shocked, but quickly finished parking, and looked over again, only to see the dog still sitting there with the gold leash, still attached to his collar, and still suspended in mid air as if still being held, tho I could no longer see the little girl. We got out of our truck and walked towards Lucky, who would typically be bounding towards us, but who was still sitting there watching us approach. The leash had disappeared, but he was still sitting. When I got within 5 feet of him, I heard a girl's voice tell him, " it's OK Lucky, you can go now " , and he instantly began jumping all over this. I thanked the girl in my head....the kids never saw her....but without her, we would have lost our pet. I have called her an angel in the past, not really understanding exactly what sort of spirit she was. I can't imagine this girl as being a part of my knowing, since I didn't have any inkling about the dog's situation. Do you give readings, Carol? Peace, Renee > " Carol " <caznjohn > > " bodymind " > re guides and angels >Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:08:48 +0800 > > >Hi there all >To Rich and Daniel i have a thought to add >People who see angels and guides really believe they see angels and guides >What they are seeing is energy. >A person interprets energy based upon their own conditioning >people may see a different vibration of energy and go ... that is an angel >....because they like angels >another person may see or feel the same energy and think an extension of my >inner knowing ...... a guiding force >another person may interpret energy as a guide ....usually outside of >themself and this may be because there own sense of reality would stop them >from allowing the knowing that comes from this energy >many people dissassociate from inner knowing and call them guides or angel >because they trust the energy more if they feel it comes from an outside >source .... this can be from lacking of understanding or from lower self >esteem or just a plain ol belief that they themselves could not possibly be >this wise > >the fact of the matter is >energy is energy >it has no attachment to what face you put on it >i have been an energy worker and psychic for 30 years , i personally >watched a lot of sci fi movies as i was growing up and my internal >symbolism tends to allow me to interpret energy as glowing plasma balls >.... which i do know as my own or other people's inner ( i dont use higher) >selves >it is just good that for whatever reasoning people put on it , they do feel >energy and allow its interaction with them >anyway that is my two cents worth >carol > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Hello Everyone I've been reading all your post with interest. I just got back from San Diego about a week ago from a class held by Doreen Virtue. This class was called Angel Therapy Practitioner. There were around 120 students in this class. Some from Malaysia, Switzerland, England, Hawaii and all over the states. The class was a week long intensive workshop. We meet from 8:00am-9:00pm most of the days. I have been working with Energy healing for about 9 years now and can feel the energy field surrounding the living. I'm highly empathic, I pick up the emotions of others and subtle energies within a person. I'm also a nurse in a hospital. During the time I was cleaning up a patient just after he left his body. I felt him floating just above his bed, the room was overpowering with the love coming form the spirit world. I knew by the feeling the room was full of angels. I didn't have to see them. I felt their presents. Anyhow getting back to the class we learned during the class to give reading to each other. We always paired up with someone we didn't know. I was able to see in the field around the person or sense in the field of the person different energy forms. A round one lady I saw and described both of her grandparents to her just as she remembered them. Other's would have animals, cherubs, angels around them. Sometimes I would get a sense of a message for the person. I was completely new to all of this when I went to the class. I have only felt the presents of spirits/angels around me before. The last day of the class. Doreen Chanelled Archangel Michael and he spoke through her. It was a very powerful and moving speech for all of us to here. I know each of us has our own belief system, The angels have told some of us they appear in the form to us as they do for this is our expectations of an angel and they have no wish to frighten us when they come to us. They are of pure love when they come. The web sit for Doreen's workshops can be found on http://www.AngelTherapy.com Many of you may find her classes informative. She has them in many places. She has one coming in Florida soon, Hawaii, and I thought there may be talk of one in England. Check her web sit for sure. --- htwhitestar Healing Light and Heartfelt Love White Star (\o/) /_\ 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. lycos.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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