áòðééï: it takes genius to make things simple

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I totally agree with Rusty.

 

Imho, the arrows against Ego based on eastern philosophies are

misunderstood, misiterpreted in the west.

 

Ego is pure. something we are born with... it is given to us by God, why

not accept and respect it? I intuitively connect big ego with big life

force, big chi.

 

THe more ego you have - the more motivation you have to reach high. It is a

great inner drive .

why fight it? why all defamations against Ego?

 

Anat

 

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ðùìç: éåí øáéòé 22 îàé 2002 11:15

ðåùà: Re: Re: it takes genius to make things simple

 

 

> >The ego is not a bad thing to be

> > taken over by some power.

> _______

>

> You're spot on here, enquizical,

> The Ego is here for a good reason.

> We cannot survive without it.

> The misunderstanding that the Ego must be forsaken in order to attain

higher

> consciousness, actually blocks the elevation of consciousness.

> In order to transcend the Ego one must have a strong Ego.

> The Ego is the keeper of the body temple.

> Draw a small circle on a piece of paper and call it the Ego.

> Then draw a larger circle that INCLUDES the smaller one and you have pair

> bond or family consciousness.

> This is the first quantum* leap of consciousness.

> Now draw a larger circle that includes the nuclear family and the Ego and

> this is WE/US or group consciousness.

> And a larger circle including the others and this is humankind

> consciousness, another quantum leap.

> Now draw an infinitely larger circle including the other circles and you

> have transcendent or God consciousness.

> This it the ultimate quantum leap.

> When one joins the team, gang, army, group or tribe, one's first duty is

to

> keep the body healthy, sane and strong in order to serve the group and

that

> my friends, is the Ego's job. To deny the Ego is to deny the Self.

> Transcendence of Ego INCLUDES the Ego.

> Having said that, now one must give up attachment to the ego's desires in

> order to be free to rise to a higher consciousness.

> It's not desire itself, which is the creative force, that one must

forsake,

> but attachment to the results of our efforts to fulfill those desires.

These

> attachments or addictions hold us in the inner circle and limit our

> experience of life

>

> Love it ALL.

> rusty

> * quantum referring to the orbiting electrons around the nucleus of the

> atom; two in the first ring, and when you add one more it LEAPS to the

next

> ring. This is a quantum leap, To The Next Level. But the atom include all

> levels. The Ego is the first level

> ry

>

>

>

> -

> " enquizical " <soulparenting

>

> Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:29 PM

> Re: it takes genius to make things simple

>

>

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I am new so bear with me. I have studied the body and mind also the

> > spirit now for sometime. My spelling is not really bad but not

> > colledge level either. My typing is the worst. I check and recheck

> > and some how aways miss something.

> >

> > I have found when the subject of ego comes up it is like saying satan

> > or devil or evil which it is not. The ego is not a bad thing to be

> > taken over by some power. You are to honor it as part of yourself.

> > For that is truly what it is, part of yourslef. If you are not

> > fighting you are not accepting the idea that anything has more power

> > than you have. Whether you are a physical being or spiritual you have

> > one. It is part of you as a co-creater. It is not good or bad it

> > depends on what you choose, by what you percieve, by things learned

> > and accepted and/or by freewill.

> >

> > There are some 8000+ thoughts that go through our minds, with all of

> > our senses in any given hour. It just depends on the thoughts you

> > hang on to that brings you to where you are right now. Do you want to

> > stay there or do you want something else. There are many decisions to

> > be made by the way we see them and the way and what we learn.

> >

> > As far as other groups that may discuss this subject. Echart Tolle

> > (sp?) as mentioned. A Course In Miracles Groups/ACIM. Conversations

> > with God groups/CWG, and some that follow this line of thinking also

> > study the Urantia, though I haven't been to any of their groups, some

> > one sent me a CD of the book to look over and it is mentioned in

> > these type of circles. As far as I can see though it can be dicussed

> > here.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Alexandra Soltow <pamra@r...> wrote:

> > > Dave wrote,

> > >

> > > >The ego is capable of giving itself up, being absorbed by something

> > > >greater than itself. The " company man " gives himself to the

> > company.

> > > >A soldier gives his life for his country. An activist gives

> > herself

> > > >up to her cause and she becomes that cause. A musician becomes the

> > > >instrument.

> > > >

> > > >Haven't you ever belonged to a group, or team, and given up your

> > self-

> > > >interest for the sake of the group? Didn't your consciousness rise

> > > >from the individual level to the group level?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >The ego can not, as you put it, " get rid of itself " , but it can

> > immerse

> > > >itself in something greater and thereby achieve the desired

> > results.

> > >

> > > The ego can *become* immersed in something greater than itself, but

> > the ego

> > > is not the entity that makes the decision to dissolve. It can put

> > itself in

> > > an optimal place, like a surfer positioning him/herself to catch

> > the next

> > > wave, or a musician surrounding him/herself with kindred players,

> > but the

> > > carrying away happens prompted by a source other than the ego. And

> > there is

> > > nothing the ego can do to cause itself to be pre-empted, other than

> > to do

> > > the preparatory work.

> > >

> > > Alex

> >

> >

> >

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