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Hi Dave,

 

Mind and body are one integrated piece.

But there are times when it is convenient to consider them separately.

 

The mind is one integrated whole, but there are times when it it

is useful to use the metaphor of a conscious and a subconscious.

 

>If one believes that one's mental insides is made up of " parts " that can

>have arguments and be " abondoned " , and if this helps a person then who am

>I to argue it;

 

Use whatever works for you :o)

 

>but here goes anyway...

>It reminds me of the inner child-inner parent modality, where one's mind

>is broken up, fragmented into many different peronalities. I thought

>having multiple personalities was a disease in itself. I guess not if

>a therapist installs them. I even saw " assembly instructions " online

>for creating an inner child if you don't already have one, heh.

>

>I joined a therapy group that was designed around the " inner child "

>concept. The therapist told me that I needed to contact my inner

>child. I said there's no such thing, it's just a figure of speech.

>She insisted that we all have an inner child. I wonder who was the

>sickest.

>

>Imo, the mind-body connection is about getting back to wholeness,

>to oneness. The body and mind are connected by *something*, and

>at the level of that something, (whatever it is), they are one, not

>two, not many parts. It's not about integrating parts, that's just

>more of the parts modality. It's about seeing throught the apparent

>division, the illusory separation of the mind and body.

 

If you are getting good results with this model, use it!

 

>Oh well, that's just my take on it and like I said at the start,

>if it works...it works.

 

If you believe people knowingly choose cancer and can

just as easily make another choice, use that model!

 

There are many models.

I think the subject is far beyond what we can resolve in this mailgroup.

I can't even authoritatively tell you where our mind is or how it works.

 

steve

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scottplumerias wrote:

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> Renee,

>

> I concur with Steve, autoimmune disease definitely have a

> subconscious mind component. And it involves an argument between two

> parts that don't agree. One thinks it is shut out and goes and acts

> out in the body...

>

> Arthritis, all that stuff is like that...

 

 

If one believes that one's mental insides is made up of " parts " that can

have arguments and be " abondoned " , and if this helps a person then who am

I to argue it; but here goes anyway...

 

It reminds me of the inner child-inner parent modality, where one's mind

is broken up, fragmented into many different peronalities. I thought

having multiple personalities was a disease in itself. I guess not if

a therapist installs them. I even saw " assembly instructions " online

for creating an inner child if you don't already have one, heh.

 

I joined a therapy group that was designed around the " inner child "

concept. The therapist told me that I needed to contact my inner

child. I said there's no such thing, it's just a figure of speech.

She insisted that we all have an inner child. I wonder who was the

sickest.

 

Imo, the mind-body connection is about getting back to wholeness,

to oneness. The body and mind are connected by *something*, and

at the level of that something, (whatever it is), they are one, not

two, not many parts. It's not about integrating parts, that's just

more of the parts modality. It's about seeing throught the apparent

division, the illusory separation of the mind and body.

 

Oh well, that's just my take on it and like I said at the start,

if it works...it works.

 

Dave.

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